[TrashMan]

Give it a bigger explosion. That's what I did in my FS2 install.
Now you cna see a nice explosion when it hits (but then again, I also REALLY turned it into  more awesome tempest - faster, more bang, but slwoer RoF)

[Axel Wers]

Agreed. They didn't have shockwaves in retail; thus they won't get shockwaves in the mediavps. At least that's my opinion.

And then why EM Pulse in retail had green tail, but in mediavps red? In this case I don't see any problem with Mortar's shockwave explosion. I created Fusion Mortar with small and fast explosion and it looks much more better than original.

[Spoon]

If you think about it for a moment you would realise that the color of the tail has no effect on gameplay. Adding a shockwave to a weapon that had none in retail Does have an effect on gameplay.
Unless you make sure the shockwave deal absolutely no damage and has no blast force. Then it merely becomes a visual thing.

[Dragon]

All missiles (Fusion mortar included) have some blast radius, so it's possible to add a shockwave without changing stats.
In fact, add this:

Code: [Select]

$Name: Fusion Mortar
+nocreate
$Shockwave Speed: 95
To some .tbm and then test the Fusion Mortar. It should give it a standard shockwave.
Also, you can change "$Name:" from "Fusion Mortar" to any secondary and find out that none of them have impact-only damage.

[Thaeris]

An explosion is fine, but due to the net damage of the rocket, a "shockwave" as in a bomb shockwave is illogical. Heck, the individual projectile does less total damage than a Harpoon!

The argument for that is on the first page of this thread, actually...

[haloboy100]

I don't think there should be a shockwave; rather an updated cooler-looking explosion affect to make the fusion motar seem something more than an exploding-pea shooter. (even if that what it is in the end; it'll just look cool.)

[Thaeris]

Cooler-looking BOOMZ are always nice. Because individually they're not too damaging, you'd probably want a Harpoon-sized blast, as has been alluded to so many times before.

[Axel Wers]

If you think about it for a moment you would realise that the color of the tail has no effect on gameplay. Adding a shockwave to a weapon that had none in retail Does have an effect on gameplay.
Unless you make sure the shockwave deal absolutely no damage and has no blast force. Then it merely becomes a visual thing.

Little shockwave from blasted Fusion Mortar has almost ANY effect on capital ships.

[Thaeris]

*Facepalm

I'm not saying a want for visible Fusion Mortar shockwaves is wrong, as you're entitled to your opinion. However, if your opinion is that the Fusion Mortar should have a visible shockwave, I'm saying your opinion is stupid.

Seriously, think about it. The numbers don't add up for it to be dealing enough damage to be spitting out a bomb-type visible shockwave upon impact. A pretty explosion? Fine. The FSU does stuff like that all the time. But a visible shockwave? No.

[Mongoose]

The thing is, although the Fusion Mortar's damage is quantitatively less than many other weapons in the game, from a qualitative standpoint, it does a whole lot more.  Unlike most missiles, it can actually kill an enemy capital ship, provided you sit around long enough for it to happen.

[Thaeris]

That's very true, Mongoose, and I've noted it before. However, an explanation akin to the one like NGTM-1R made earlier in this thread is much more reasonable than a visible shockwave.

...And I'm quite certain that I've never seen the Trebuchet crack off a visible shockwave upon impact... and that classy gal does a whole lotta more stuff than the Fusion Mortar when it hits you!

[haloboy100]

A shockwave added (albeit small) to the Fusion motar would make it comparable to torpedoes in the way they look, implying that it has similar applications and power, which it certainly does not.

It is, however, no ordinary missile, at least from my opinion. So I think a special unique explosion is worth warrenting.
Again, though, this is my opinion.

[Thaeris]

 

Never disagreed with that. The FSU makes prettier explosions all the time.

[haloboy100]

I was thinking of something like a fireball affect. I don't know why, but I keep seeing the explosion from the mega missile in Descent 3, which has a shockwave. That's something we obviously don't want.

[Mongoose]

Now someone needs to slap a shark face on a Harbinger.

[haloboy100]

That would be awesome.