[kkmic]

Well, while I'm not a WC fan, the positive comment on the forum determined me to download and give it a try.

But as in life not all the things go right on the first time, so happened here:

ERROR: "Invalid subsystem name. 
In sexpression: ( when ( and ( is-event-true-delay "Launch Alpha 2" 3 ) ( > ( distance-ship-subsystem "Alpha 1" "TCS Lexington" " at mission/missionparse.cpp:5798

That's what I get when I attempt to start  the first mission.
I'm running fs2_open 3.6.9 on Linux.
I have other mods installed (each in in it's own folder).

My fs2_open launch parameters are:

./fs2_open -spec -env -glow -mipmap -missile_lighting -2d_poof -cache_bitmaps -dualscanlines -rearm_timer -3dwarp -warp_flash -snd_preload -jpgtga -targetinfo -ship_choice_3d -wcsaga -mod wcsaga

This is the same command line I use with other mods, none of them causing me problems

I have the following VPs in my FS2 root folder:

LightspeedFS2.vp           mp-710_effects.vp       mv_effects.vp        smarty_fs2.vp          tango1_fs2.vp
Root_fs2.vp                     mp-710_models.vp      mv_models.vp      sparky_fs2.vp           tango2_fs2.vp
aaNebulae.vp                  mv_adveffects.vp         mv_music.vp        sparky_hi_fs2.vp      tango3_fs2.vp
mp-710_adveffects.vp    mv_core.vp                   mv_textures.vp     stu_fs2.vp                 warble_fs2.vp

(i don't remember what each one does, but afaik, I've placed mod-specific vps in their respective folders, and "common" vps in the root folder)

Hope anyone has an idea, because I don't.

[karajorma]

Don't run WCS as an FS2 mod. It's meant to be run as a stand alone game.

[kkmic]

Hmmm..... and how exactly should i do that?
Dump fs2_open and the saga files in a folder and that's it?

[Tolwyn]

Dump fs2_open and the saga files in a folder and that's it?

yes

[kkmic]

Done that, same error :

This is the list of files in my WCSaga directory:

LightspeedFS2.vp        fs2_open.png                     mv_effects.vp          sparky_hi_fs2.vp         wc4_campaign_0.24.vp
Root_fs2.vp                  mp-710_adveffects.vp       mv_models.vp        stu_fs2.vp                    wc4_core_0.23.vp
aaNebulae.vp               mp-710_effects.vp             mv_music.vp          tango1_fs2.vp
fs2_open                       mp-710_models.vp           mv_textures.vp       tango2_fs2.vp
fs2_open-3.6.9.run       mv_adveffects.vp              smarty_fs2.vp         tango3_fs2.vp
fs2_open.bin                 mv_core.vp                       sparky_fs2.vp          warble_fs2.vp

Please help 

[Jeff Vader]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it so that one does not need any vp files that contain fs2, mp or mv in their file names, when playing WCS? Not to mention aaNebulae and LightspeedFS2.

[kkmic]

Short answer: I do not know.

Long answer: Those are the files that are used by FS2. I am unsure what are the required ones and what are the optional ones, that's why I'm asking on the forum.

Because if I place only the fs2_open, fs2_open.bin and the two WC4 VPs in a folder, I get the "cannot create web cursor" (or something like it) error.

Possible solution:
Someone post a list of files from a working WCSaga demo for me to make a comparision.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it so that one does not need any vp files that contain fs2, mp or mv in their file names, when playing WCS? Not to mention aaNebulae and LightspeedFS2.

The only file that does not contain fs2, mp, or mv in the name is "aaNebulae.vp", and you already said it's not a valid/required file.
Did you meant to say "one does not need any vp files that begin with fs2, mp or mv in their file names"? I'll try this option anyway.

[kkmic]

Done that, but in XP this time. Got the same error (apparently, the fs2_open for linux clipped the error message):

Error: Invalid subsystem name.

In sexpression: ( when
   ( and
      ( is-event-true-delay
         "Launch Alpha 2"
         3
      )
      ( >
         ( distance-ship-subsystem
            "Alpha 1"
            "TCS Lexington"
            "fighterbay02"
         )
         500
      )
   )
   ( key-reset-multiple "Alt-N" "Alt-A" )
   ( unrestrict-nav "Nav 1" )
)
(Error appears to be: fighterbay02)
File:J:\src\cvs\fs2_open_3_6_9.final\code\Mission\MissionParse.cpp
Line: 5798
[This filename points to the location of a file on the computer that built this executable]

Call stack:
------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------

File list:

fred2_open_3_6_9.exe
fs2_open_3_6_9.exe
Launcher.exe
launcher6.ini
Root_fs2.vp
smarty_fs2.vp
sparky_fs2.vp
sparky_hi_fs2.vp
stu_fs2.vp
tango1_fs2.vp
tango2_fs2.vp
tango3_fs2.vp
warble_fs2.vp
wc4_campaign_0.24.vp
wc4_core_0.23.vp

  help

[jr2]

Done that, same error :

This is the list of files in my WCSaga directory:

LightspeedFS2.vp        fs2_open.png                     mv_effects.vp          sparky_hi_fs2.vp         wc4_campaign_0.24.vp
Root_fs2.vp                  mp-710_adveffects.vp       mv_models.vp        stu_fs2.vp                    wc4_core_0.23.vp
aaNebulae.vp               mp-710_effects.vp             mv_music.vp          tango1_fs2.vp
fs2_open                       mp-710_models.vp           mv_textures.vp       tango2_fs2.vp
fs2_open-3.6.9.run       mv_adveffects.vp              smarty_fs2.vp         tango3_fs2.vp
fs2_open.bin                 mv_core.vp                       sparky_fs2.vp          warble_fs2.vp

Please help 

Good grief... here, this is all you should have (+ your Linux prog files)

Volume in drive C is Main HD 0,1
 Volume Serial Number is A443-1098

 Directory of C:\Program Files\Wing Commander Saga Prologue

12/09/2007  09:24 AM    <DIR>          .
12/09/2007  09:24 AM    <DIR>          ..
12/09/2007  09:21 AM    <DIR>          data
12/31/2006  01:57 PM           194,654 fv.ico
12/03/2006  09:17 PM         1,544,218 fv_rc1.61.exe
12/25/2006  05:04 PM           360,448 Launcher.exe
12/30/2006  03:26 AM           128,198 launcher.ico
12/15/2006  11:11 AM               196 launcher6.ini
12/30/2006  03:31 AM         3,653,672 manual.pdf
12/15/2006  09:24 AM           782,336 OpenALwEAX.exe
12/30/2006  03:11 AM        44,772,907 prologue_anims.vp
12/31/2006  02:01 PM         2,431,624 prologue_core.vp
12/30/2006  03:07 AM        41,120,678 prologue_effects.vp
11/27/2006  09:01 AM       116,316,452 prologue_hud.vp
12/13/2006  08:17 PM       106,178,661 prologue_interface.vp
11/07/2006  10:22 AM        50,740,038 prologue_music.vp
12/30/2006  03:06 AM       198,964,759 prologue_ships.vp
11/27/2006  09:02 AM         9,259,958 prologue_sounds.vp
12/30/2006  03:08 AM        41,819,128 prologue_voice.vp
12/25/2006  06:31 PM            43,914 Readme.pdf
01/24/2006  08:53 AM            22,486 saga.ico
12/09/2007  09:24 AM                 0 wcs.txt
12/27/2006  04:02 AM         3,551,232 wcsaga.exe
              20 File(s)    621,885,559 bytes

 Directory of C:\Program Files\Wing Commander Saga Prologue\data

12/09/2007  09:21 AM    <DIR>          .
12/09/2007  09:21 AM    <DIR>          ..
12/15/2006  11:39 AM                93 cmdline_fso.cfg
10/12/2006  09:32 AM                22 fs2open_pxo.cfg
               2 File(s)            115 bytes

     Total Files Listed:
              22 File(s)    621,885,674 bytes
               5 Dir(s)   1,544,646,656 bytes free

And, you should really have your Media VPs in /FreeSpace2/mediavps and run them as -mod mediavps or (eg for FSPort) -mod fsport,mediavps

in /mediavps should be:

Volume in drive C is Main HD 0,1
 Volume Serial Number is A443-1098

 Directory of C:\Games\FreeSpace2\mediavps

12/09/2007  09:27 AM    <DIR>          .
12/09/2007  09:27 AM    <DIR>          ..
08/22/2007  09:58 AM    <DIR>          data
02/12/2007  08:31 PM            29,750 logo.bmp
12/09/2007  09:27 AM                 0 mediavps.txt
02/13/2007  11:29 AM               525 mod.ini
07/10/2006  07:04 PM        87,080,647 mp-710_adveffects.vp
07/10/2006  07:05 PM         3,112,274 mp-710_effects.vp
07/10/2006  07:05 PM         2,640,833 mp-710_models.vp
05/02/2007  07:13 PM    <DIR>          mv_adveffects
05/21/2006  03:21 PM       255,954,351 mv_adveffects.vp
05/21/2006  03:14 PM         9,692,874 mv_core.vp
05/21/2006  03:43 PM        93,891,138 mv_effects.vp
05/21/2006  03:27 PM       191,554,534 mv_models.vp
05/21/2006  12:36 PM        12,109,934 mv_music.vp
05/21/2006  12:36 PM       188,368,097 mv_textures.vp
02/12/2007  04:26 PM             8,027 readme.txt
11/10/2007  07:09 PM               263 settings.ini
              14 File(s)    844,443,247 bytes
               4 Dir(s)   1,544,437,760 bytes free

[kkmic]

prologue_anims.vp
prologue_core.vp
prologue_effects.vp
prologue_hud.vp
prologue_interface.vp
prologue_music.vp
prologue_ships.vp
prologue_sounds.vp
prologue_voice.vp

Where should i get those? I used the link provided on the announcement thread and ended with two VPs in a 7z archive:
wc4_campaign_0.24.vp
wc4_core_0.23.vp

I'll take a look on the WCSaga website and see what can I find. Tomorrow.

[Tolwyn]

Bah, you've just downloaded a small addon for Wing Commander Saga Prologue. You need the whole thing

[kkmic]

Crap... and you're telling me this only now?   
Neah, my bad 
I suppose that the necessary files can be found on the website.

Note: think you  should add on the announcement the "You need the complete Wing Commander (link) to play this" for n00bs like me

[Tolwyn]

open your eyes

To install the WC 4 demo, unrar the file into the Prologue folder. Then, from within the game, go to the campaign select screen, select Wing Commander 4 Demo, and then start the campaign by hitting the continue button.

- Tolwyn

[kkmic]

open your eyes

I did
And while they're open, I'll take a good look at your work.