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Offline mxlm

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There was an entertaining novel that dealt with the physics of dragon wings thusly: it's magic. Of course it violates the laws of physics. Consequently, if a dragon ever leaves a zone of rich magic, its body immediately fails and it dies. Horribly.
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perhaps the dragon's magic is used altering the dragon's weight, instead of used driving muscles at impossible forces.  Also, it is reasonable that as flying reptilians, dragons would have hollow bones and other weight-reduced components similar to birds
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So, you've got a two story tall flying lizard that breathes fire, and it's the flying part you guys have trouble with, not the 'fire breathing' part?

 

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So, you've got a two story tall flying lizard that breathes fire, and it's the flying part you guys have trouble with, not the 'fire breathing' part?

there are all sorts of chemicals in real life that you can mix together to make fire.  there aren't all sorts of chemicals that can make a giant reptilian monster easily achieve flight.


Oh, and also, if you are playing the game and you notice that corpses are taking a long time to become lootable, this is due to the memory leak.  Save and restart your game and corpses will become lootable in a shorter amount of time.
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10:55:48   TurambarBlade: i've been selecting my generals based on how much i like their hats
10:55:55   HerraTohtori: me too!
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perhaps the dragon's magic is used altering the dragon's weight, instead of used driving muscles at impossible forces.

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Wait, there's a dragon in Mass Effect? There's magic in Mass Effect? Or is that some reference I'm going to understand once I've played the game (which will be, uh, after I finish Dragon Age)?
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He's referring to the phenomenon known as mass effect within Mass Effect.

Explanation starting at 0:37 if you still don't get it.
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So, you've got a two story tall flying lizard that breathes fire, and it's the flying part you guys have trouble with, not the 'fire breathing' part?
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Plus they aren't very ... dragony. Taking them down was rather ... I dunno, not so epic as I'd hoped. Sync kills are always nice though.
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BAh! Keep your tastes. Something like Grim Fandango is interesting as a diversion once in a while.

I like my fantasy like fantasy. And I like it fantastical and realistic (or should I say, believalbe?) You can have both. DA:O is both. It's universe is familiar, but fresh. Fantastical, but believable.

You must live in another world if you consider things like elves, dragons and magic to be believable. :p

Believabel in their actions, the consequences and bahavior. And to a point, physicly.
Can't you immage a earth where evolution went differently and humans ended up with pointy ears?

Relistic, beliavalbe are two different but simmilar things. Is the movie Dungeons and Dragon as immersive/believalbe as LOTR? Which one requires less suspension of disbelief? NOt all things are equal mind you.
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Believabel in their actions, the consequences and bahavior. And to a point, physicly.
Can't you immage a earth where evolution went differently and humans ended up with pointy ears?

What about the fire breathing dragons? :p

I don't necessarily need believability though. As I said earlier, I like fantasy worlds if they use that freedom from reality to be creative. The problem is that most of these medieval fantasy universes rely on the same tired old concepts as if they were imposed by reality, even though they are all just made up. Basically, I don't like "standard fantasy," as Yahtzee put it.

 

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I think Stephen Fry summed it up quite well where he said there were two specific themes in all Legendary tales, either of 'punishment from high' (which he defined as the Christian legacy, such as the expulsion from Eden) and the 'They're no better than us' fable (such as many Greek legends), and that all these tales told an interesting story about the development of the countries that extolled them.

Magic Fantasy, such as Dragon Age, Neverwinter Nights or Oblivion all follow very much the same rules, the original stories were basically morality plays, like a 1600 page version of 'the boy who cried Wolf', they are usually tales of either redemption or responsibility, and the Dragon (at least in Western culture), in many ways, was a personification of 'bad morality', burning homes, 'destroying' virgins, stealing and hording gold, Consdering this type of Fantasy was at its original height in the 16th Century, it's no real surprise that this is also the time that modern conceptions of Hell, Satan and Demons was formed, there's a definite similarity.

As an interesting aside, I found it personally fascinating that, pre-16th century, the UK was much more rural in nature, the enemies of smaller communities were famine, pestilence and, to a lesser degree war (note the Horsemen of the Apocolypse idealogy rearing its head), however, come the 16th Century, more and more people were living in cities, and a new additional enemy reared its head, fire, which wasn't nearly the threat to small rural communities as it was to a large urban one. Just an interesting note ;)

 

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... I suppose it's unreasonable of me to hope for once the topic stays on topic rather then being de-railed into discussions totally unrelated to the original topic?
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Yes :p

 

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I think a discussion about fantasy cliches is pretty appropriate for a Dragon Age thread, really.

 

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Actually, it's only lost one word from the start, it was Dragon Age: Origins, my last post was about Dragon Origins, that's not bad for 7 pages on HLP ;)

 

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Yes, but knowing HLP, talking 'bout fantasy cliches is bound to lead to a raging debate about underlining philosophies inherent in different intepretations of fantasy.
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... I suppose it's unreasonable of me to hope for once the topic stays on topic rather then being de-railed into discussions totally unrelated to the original topic?

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Anyway, just wondering, a friend said this game is great... though, I can't really tell from what's been said here?
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It's a good game if you like RPG's with very involved storylines, a complex world that requires buckets of reading to learn the history of etc, if you like games that you just drop into a go, it may not be so great, but if you can get into the storyline and enjoy the atmosphere, yes.

It's certainly, as RPGs go, one of the more varied starts with regards to the character you choose at the start of the game, but I don't see any real change in-game depending on alignment outside your relationships with your team, though, maybe that will come in later, since I'm still at the earlier stages (Just killed the Desire Demon in the Fade) that may simply be that my actions have had a knock-on effect yet.