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Title: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on July 26, 2013, 04:42:06 am: Right, first off is a zod space superiority fighter, originally thought of a security craft and as part of a civilian mining corp.

Second is a civilian miner, intended for stripping asteroid fields for valuable minerals. And part of the same organisation as the fighter.

A few of the original doodles for the ships.
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4637/vh10.png)
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/Nhu double progress thread
Post by: Luis Dias on July 26, 2013, 04:56:02 am: Beautiful Oddgrim! Both of them they are amazing. Were they a request from any modders out there like BtA?
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/Nhu double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on July 26, 2013, 05:07:31 am: Quote from: Luis Dias on July 26, 2013, 04:56:02 am
Beautiful Oddgrim! Both of them they are amazing. Were they a request from any modders out there like BtA?

No request, these are my entries for the modeling competition. ( When they are done )
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/Nhu double progress thread
Post by: MatthTheGeek on July 26, 2013, 06:06:43 am: The fighter screams Seth MkII for some reason, with a touch of Tauret.

How big is the miner supposed to be ? Not easy to judge from here.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/Nhu double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on July 26, 2013, 06:26:06 am: Quote from: MatthTheGeek on July 26, 2013, 06:06:43 am
The fighter screams Seth MkII for some reason, with a touch of Tauret.

How big is the miner supposed to be ? Not easy to judge from here.

Very cool, I can see the relation was not intentional though.
The miner is about triton sized, maybe a big bigger.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/Nhu double progress thread
Post by: Raven2001 on July 26, 2013, 08:00:35 am: Loving the Duat (it's the fighter, right?), although I think it could use some more polies in the "wings" to break the silhuette as it's implied int he texture.

The miner... I dunno, something's odd about it, and I can't quite put my finger on it. Maybe because the model doesn't seem that big.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: fightermedic on July 26, 2013, 08:20:52 am: very unique and vasudan design
especially the miner
great work
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: Luis Dias on July 26, 2013, 08:48:29 am: Quote from: Raven2001 on July 26, 2013, 08:00:35 am
The miner... I dunno, something's odd about it, and I can't quite put my finger on it. Maybe because the model doesn't seem that big.

The miner seems like a vacuum cleaner. Seems like a small object, not a tritan sized object.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: Rodo on July 26, 2013, 09:56:21 am: You see it small because you're comparing it directly with the fighter. Also it's clear that the model is still in development phase, once some things like maybe turrets or mobile parts are added it will look bigger I'm sure.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: MatthTheGeek on July 26, 2013, 11:00:53 am: Quote from: Luis Dias on July 26, 2013, 08:48:29 am
The miner seems like a vacuum cleaner.
Hattie says it's a very Vasudan feature :p
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: Raven2001 on July 26, 2013, 11:07:36 am: Quote from: Rodo on July 26, 2013, 09:56:21 am
You see it small because you're comparing it directly with the fighter. Also it's clear that the model is still in development phase, once some things like maybe turrets or mobile parts are added it will look bigger I'm sure.

Actually I was looking at the concept and the model. Even in the concept, it looks like a small ship.
Of course it is on development phase, hence me making the critic :)
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: Luis Dias on July 26, 2013, 11:25:25 am: oh my totally forgot about the hattie. Jesus. Zods are the real housewives of space.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: mjn.mixael on July 26, 2013, 11:41:28 am: Why can't it be a one man miner for tight spaces inside asteroids? Who made the rule that miners need to be big?
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: Darius on July 26, 2013, 11:45:12 am: I'm being reminded by the Isis, which is fighter-sized. The front part of the miner corresponds to the windscreen of the Isis which (to me) is giving the illusion of it being smaller than it should be.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: Raven2001 on July 26, 2013, 12:02:32 pm: Quote from: mjn.mixael on July 26, 2013, 11:41:28 am
Why can't it be a one man miner for tight spaces inside asteroids? Who made the rule that miners need to be big?

No one. But if it's supposed to be a one man miner, I reckon it would have some sort of cockpit. Also, there would be no point in having a container (don't think a fighter sized miner would have the ability to refine the ore on-site, and breaking the asteroid in tiny pieces just to fit on the container, would be "stupid")
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on July 26, 2013, 03:31:57 pm: The cannister is, well a way to store away raw materials , not refined ore , that is then transported at a dedicated refinery. The thought process behind having it detectable is to allow the miner to stay in place at the field and the canisters are transported to said refinery by freighters.

Also having the canister behave like cargo crates allows to setup a depot where ships comes in to get teh raw ore to transport away, making a dynamic area to for example setup a mission to take place there.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: headdie on July 26, 2013, 03:34:46 pm: Quote from: MatthTheGeek on July 26, 2013, 06:06:43 am
The fighter screams Seth MkII for some reason, with a touch of Tauret.

My first thought.

good going mate
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: Trivial Psychic on July 26, 2013, 07:03:06 pm: That miner reminds me of the head and neck section of an Amun.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on July 27, 2013, 07:35:57 am: Texture tests in the techroom ,more work is needed. c:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2SDUWyMqxY
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: fightermedic on July 27, 2013, 10:21:36 am: i think it's already very well textured - your shinemaps are awesome
you really nailed Vasudan style, as usual
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: knossosfs2 on July 28, 2013, 06:52:05 pm: Nice job with the models! When I saw the Nhu for the first time, I thought it looked like a scarab beetle with guns :p
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on July 29, 2013, 08:25:03 am: Nice fighter there, I like the techy exposed look around the engines. It's a shame the texture is so dark in that area though, it hides a lot of that detail. Perhaps some baked self-illumination could help bring it out more?

The miner's looking cool too, though a bit like an oversize Isis, like Darius said. How does the mining process work? The ship doesn't seem to have any intakes for the raw materials, and its layout doesn't seem to be fit for loading the rocks directly into the container.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: Rodo on July 29, 2013, 10:15:37 am: Quote from: FreeSpaceFreak on July 29, 2013, 08:25:03 am
The ship doesn't seem to have any intakes for the raw materials, and its layout doesn't seem to be fit for loading the rocks directly into the container.

I think it's meant to have a robotic arm on the cavity of the front, well that's what I understood from the draft.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: Luis Dias on July 29, 2013, 10:23:08 am: Yes I think that's crystal clear.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on August 01, 2013, 08:04:25 am: Right, one more update: Had to redo some of the parts and add some more, almost done with the model maps just need to tweak the normals and clean up irregularitys. c: (yay)
http://p3d.in/mOoRQ
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on August 02, 2013, 03:29:43 am: Did a quick ao render of the new bits on the duat c:
I hope this can fix some of the misconceptions of the real size.
(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/107/1bo5.png)
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: Luis Dias on August 02, 2013, 03:59:01 am: So the only question in my head right now is which one of Oddgrim's model is gonna win the competition. Really divided I am.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on August 14, 2013, 04:19:53 am: More stuffs, added arms for docking with asteroids and started sketching drawings for specific mineral rich models.

http://p3d.in/GDLHY

edit: added sketches.

(http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/5992/5bmr.png)
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: Black Wolf on August 14, 2013, 04:40:22 am: So, looking at that, it seems like the Vasudans are busily mining azurite and amethyst. :P
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on August 14, 2013, 04:55:08 am: Quote from: Black Wolf on August 14, 2013, 04:40:22 am
So, looking at that, it seems like the Vasudans are busily mining azurite and amethyst. :P

Hey, those blues and purples in the armour has to come from somewhere :p There be precious gems in those ships.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: Rodo on August 14, 2013, 08:39:53 am: I love the rocks.
I'm loving all the sh** you're doing Oddgrim, I cannot believe the awesome you amount.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on August 26, 2013, 04:50:23 am: Quote from: Rodo on August 14, 2013, 08:39:53 am
I love the rocks.
I'm loving all the sh** you're doing Oddgrim, I cannot believe the awesome you amount.
thanks!

I have been a bit neglectful on this of late, anyhow heres an update.
http://p3d.in/GDLHY
Moved the arms to the underside, redesigned the cargo dock a bit and the bridge area is about done.. just some more polish and tweaking before I can get started uvmapping. Maybe create the rocks before finishing the arms is a good idea.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: Unknown Target on August 26, 2013, 11:06:41 am: These are really excellent works, nice job.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Nhu/Duat double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on August 27, 2013, 02:12:56 pm: thanks! c:
Anyhow, just started on one of the asteroids, quick and dirty texturejob.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on August 29, 2013, 09:24:18 am: Got started with the second asteroid this morning. c:
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: An4ximandros on August 29, 2013, 10:07:12 am: Oh for fak's sake, even my rocks are ****tier than yours. Fantastic work, even for mock-ups. (If that's what they still are, texture-wise.)
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on August 29, 2013, 10:37:12 am: Cheers, and yes textures on the crystal one is barely half done , while just started on the ore one.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: fightermedic on August 29, 2013, 11:36:11 am: true, even your rocks are outstanding
it's depressing *cry*
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Black Wolf on August 29, 2013, 11:41:22 am: Quote from: fightermedic on August 29, 2013, 11:36:11 am
true, even your rocks are outstanding
it's depressing *cry*

There there.

If it makes you feel any better, they make absolutely no geological sense. :p
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on August 29, 2013, 01:07:25 pm: Quote from: fightermedic on August 29, 2013, 11:36:11 am
true, even your rocks are outstanding
it's depressing *cry*
There there, atleast when I'm done you can blow it up to your hearts content. :p
Quote from: Black Wolf on August 29, 2013, 11:41:22 am
Quote from: fightermedic on August 29, 2013, 11:36:11 am
true, even your rocks are outstanding
it's depressing *cry*

There there.

If it makes you feel any better, they make absolutely no geological sense. :p

GEOLOGY IS FOR NERDS! NERD! :p
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: MatthTheGeek on August 29, 2013, 01:20:00 pm: Nerd people best people.

You should know that, Zod-maker. Zods are the greatest nerds in the FS universe.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on August 31, 2013, 05:48:29 am: Quote from: MatthTheGeek on August 29, 2013, 01:20:00 pm
Nerd people best people.

You should know that, Zod-maker. Zods are the greatest nerds in the FS universe.
Yes, quite "adjusts his glasses" :p

Created two mockups, the only area that is "finished is around the crate and so far the mining "laser" on top is unfinished and needs to be finished, the arms are a bit weedy and unfinished.
Model itself needs more detailing here and there. c:

(http://imageshack.us/a/img707/181/n2l1.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img802/5047/7pit.png)
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Rodo on August 31, 2013, 07:03:33 am: I see modders making this thing clap :p
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Raven2001 on August 31, 2013, 07:57:06 am: Looks kickass!
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: fightermedic on September 01, 2013, 02:07:03 pm: you know, you should totally declare the red rock to be Shivan and the blue one to be Terran
that way you can win in every category of the modeling contest ;) (which is not possible, yes i know)
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Rampage on September 03, 2013, 10:03:01 pm: [siiighhhh] harvesting...
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: BritishShivans on September 04, 2013, 02:00:36 am: Quote from: Rampage on September 03, 2013, 10:03:01 pm
[siiighhhh] harvesting...

Am I the only one who absolutely LOATHED the Worker's voice? I would always feed them to the Beast when convenient, along with the rest of the ships that had annoying voice actors.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Luis Dias on September 04, 2013, 09:15:53 am: Workers in HW:C are up there with Warcraft2's peasants in hilarity.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on September 10, 2013, 03:27:00 pm: Big update: http://p3d.in/GDLHY
Finally unwarpped the model and applied a ao bake to it, soon I can get serious and start texturing. (hooray)
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: fightermedic on September 10, 2013, 05:54:52 pm: i love it
that area in the lower front, is that the cockpit? looks just perfect!
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Colonol Dekker on September 11, 2013, 03:10:11 am: I absolutely applaud you as always.

Buuuuuuuuut, I have a request...

Spoiler:
Can has green tiberium asteroids plox?
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on September 11, 2013, 06:04:05 am: Quote from: Dekker on September 11, 2013, 03:10:11 am
I absolutely applaud you as always.

Buuuuuuuuut, I have a request...

Spoiler:
Can has green tiberium asteroids plox?

That is indeed a possibility, for the future when the model itself is done. c:
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on September 20, 2013, 06:42:57 am: http://p3d.in/GDLHY
After a major windows shenanigans that almost cost me the last 3 months of models raws/fsu related stuff. I fixed it like a boss and in addition grinded out an update: Fixing and adjusting started the rough normals/texturing machine parts/glow map and added a quick shine map.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Luis Dias on September 20, 2013, 08:30:36 am: :yes:

Small q: Why blue?
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on September 20, 2013, 09:09:16 am: Why not blue? Blues are present in the vasudan colour palette.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: fightermedic on September 20, 2013, 09:10:54 am: because oddgrim has got ze blues

amazing work oddgrim, glad you didn't loose all your work :)
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Luis Dias on September 20, 2013, 09:28:06 am: It was not a criticism, just a q! I love it.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on September 23, 2013, 10:27:56 am: Update: http://p3d.in/GDLHY

About 70% done with texturing, most of what is left to do is adding details underneath and texture cleaning/adjusting.
Aiming to be done texturing by friday so I start can creating the animation table for the various docking and "mining" actions.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Phantom Hoover on September 25, 2013, 12:03:23 pm: I really like those colours (I've been a sucker for orange-on-black ever since Human Revolution).
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Droid803 on September 25, 2013, 01:11:39 pm: The teal is a bit difference from the blue foundon otherzod ships.
Quote from: Oddgrim on September 20, 2013, 09:09:16 am
Why not blue? Blues are present in the vasudan colour palette.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on September 29, 2013, 02:00:49 pm: Hokey since I will not be 100% done in time its missing debris, lods1,2,3,4, complete animation table to the mining sequence and the laser itself.
Will be releasing this detail0 version + completed textures and docking/undocking animation to ore canister. I'll resume work on this model after the competition is done.

Download (http://www.mediafire.com/download/jvub3q67gmndsd2/Duat_basic.7z)
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Aardwolf on September 29, 2013, 02:08:06 pm: Well yes, blue is indeed present in the Vasudan color palette ... although it's almost always been in the form of lights, not paint. And teal I'm not so sure about? There was some very dull teal on your upgraded Osiris, but I don't remember if it was like that on the original.

Still, since it's a "civilian" ship, maybe that's justification enough for a more colorful paint job.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on September 29, 2013, 02:10:33 pm: The osiris teal was directly taken out from the retail map from the orginal, I can't recall if FSU did a "mediavp" version of it.
And yes I agree the blue was present as lights, mostly. But I'll bring the anuket and setekh as examples where they use a dark blue.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: The Dagger on September 29, 2013, 02:33:42 pm: What strikes me the most is not the blue but the yellow. I agree that industrial equipment usually comes in super-saturated yellow, but I feel it's a bit too strong of a contrast with the rest of the model. Otherwise, a very nice model and texture, I'm sure you'll get the price for the contest.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: fightermedic on September 29, 2013, 02:41:41 pm: yea, if i were to choose this model would win, hands down
it's something unique (i'm already having an idea how to abuse the mining laser) and the texture quality is just Oddgrim-like awesome
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Nyctaeus on October 01, 2013, 01:52:53 pm: Great job man :yes:. I found blue painting pretty good and original. 8129x8129 texures are killing my PCS2 :P
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Black Wolf on October 13, 2013, 08:32:37 pm: Oddgrim, we're into the final day of the competition. Any changes you've made have to be in by midnight tonight (GMT, just under 22.5 hours from now), or we'll have to judge based on the earlier release.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: DahBlount on October 13, 2013, 08:59:36 pm: The beauty of your two ships can make a grown man cry. Me? My eyes are just sweating.

Seriously though, you make some of the best ships I have ever seen. We could all take a lesson from you.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on October 14, 2013, 12:58:40 pm: Thanks!

Quote from: Black Wolf on October 13, 2013, 08:32:37 pm
Oddgrim, we're into the final day of the competition. Any changes you've made have to be in by midnight tonight (GMT, just under 22.5 hours from now), or we'll have to judge based on the earlier release.

Duat.0.2 Download (http://www.mediafire.com/download/o1npnkrrb31n4zl/Duat_v0.2.7z)

Here it is, as completed I can manage, it has destructible subsystems and a functional animation with the asteroid provided in the download. (Only missing debris, lods and the mining laser is nonfunctional.)
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: 0rph3u5 on July 21, 2014, 03:21:15 pm: Sry to drag this one form oblivion

But is there a more complete version (at least with debris) out and downloadable by now?

(I've settled on the Nhu for the roster of my T-V-era frighter for Of Shivans and Men; so adding the Duat too is only logical and convinient)
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Galemp on September 01, 2018, 06:46:29 pm: :bump:

If not I'll do LODs and debris myself, I just finished doing so for the Bes.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on September 02, 2018, 05:45:16 am: Quote from: Galemp on September 01, 2018, 06:46:29 pm
:bump:

If not I'll do LODs and debris myself, I just finished doing so for the Bes.

I see the bump, and didn't I make lods for the bes?
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Galemp on September 02, 2018, 03:37:38 pm: Come to think of it, I think it did have LODs... Just missing debris. I made them for the most recent release.
Title: Re: [WIPs] Duat/some rocks double progress thread
Post by: Oddgrim on September 02, 2018, 03:41:02 pm: huh you are correct, wonder why I didn't make debris for it. :s