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Offline Starman01

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Re: Who ? What ? Why ? How long ?
Eh, you were right, sorry :) I just doublechecked

I had that in my memory from the books.

Good links btw, I haven't checked that page that much, I only found their very good starmaps. I use mostly this for reference :

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Main_Page
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Offline gevatter Lars

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There was a time when I could tell you all Mechs and their configurations..now I am happy if I remeber the names correctly ^_^
I have just seen that there is a new TRO 3085. Man I loved the TROs. Pretty expansive, espacialy if you don't play anymore but I might still get this one.

PS: Found a pretty cool image showing how a classic map can be done in a very cool way
http://www.mechforce.de/1/cbt/img/traumlande/05.png
That makes me want to play again...anyone here knows a time machine or a cloneing device so I can have double the time per day?
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Re: Who ? What ? Why ? How long ?
Mad Cat is the name of the Clan Smoke Jaguar, Timber Wolf is from Clan Wolf. The Inner Sphere codenamed the mech Catapract

Wait wat.

The Clans (ALL the Clans) use the "Timber Wolf" name. The IS reporting name (as coined by either Phelan Kell or Anastasius Focht, not sure right now) is "Mad Cat", as a portmanteau of the type designations of the Marauder (MAD) and Catapult (CAT).

The Cataphract is a Liao-designed heavy mech. Quite a different beast.
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That's nice :) I never was really interested in the board game, but that's because I didn't knew anyone who was willing to play that
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Offline gevatter Lars

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Starman allready stated that he mixed things up. Bet it comes from the sometimes bad translations in the german version. We allways had 3-4 names for the same Mech as the novels or TROs couldn't decide between using english only names or translate them.

I played the boardgame for quite some time but our group broke up. One is now in france, the other in the US and so on. So I am pretty much alone...the last man standing ^_^
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The Clans (ALL the Clans) use the "Timber Wolf" name.

Nope, I'm pretty sure that's not true :) Even in MW2 they had different names. And it goes for more mechs

Wolf                        Smoke Jaguar
Timber Wolf            Mad Cat
Dire Wolf                 Daishi
Mad Dog                 Vulture

Maybe some clans share names, I'm not sure that Jade Falcon named all mechs differently, but I think they had a different for the Mad Dog

But the mix is correct, in the books it's described how Phelan Kell first encountered a Timber Wolf, and his targeting computer get's confused and swichted between Marauder (because of the arms) and Catapult (because of the ML on the shoulders)

Yeah, Lars is right, it could be a problem with german translation also, they are not always very reliable. I'm pretty sure the catapract error is somewhere in the german books, because I wondered that time why giving that cool mech such a bad name (think it was anastasios focht when he visited Clan Wolf when it was mentioned)
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Re: Who ? What ? Why ? How long ?
I have the english Version of MW2...*goes opening his vault of awesome manuals*...here it says: Timber Wolf. One name only.
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Yes, forgot all I said, I just read it again in the wiki :) Those Alt-Names I mentioned above are the InnerSphere names (including vulture and Daishi), "The E" is right. Better I just shut up now, and go back to modelling  :lol:
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Well bargend and done...or so they say ^_^
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Seila !

 :lol:
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Offline gevatter Lars

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Re: Who ? What ? Why ? How long ?
Speaking of Mechs and models...will you be using the Re-seen versions or the original?
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hm ? I don't know what you mean, please explain :)
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Offline gevatter Lars

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Re: Who ? What ? Why ? How long ?
Jup that is what I meant. The legal issues with the original mechs made it necessary to take them off the market and project Phoenix made new designs that are similar to the originals but different enough to get around the legal issues. These new-old mechs are also often refered to as "Re-seen"

Personaly I find some of them butt-ugly others are quite good looking.
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Offline Starman01

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Re: Who ? What ? Why ? How long ?
A few of those have already been added to the game, by Magic I think :)

Example are Warhammer, Marauder, Valkiere, Rifleman, Longbow and many more :)
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Re: Who ? What ? Why ? How long ?
Using Unseen = bad idea, no matter how cool it would be.  Harmony Gold is a buncha Dicks.

Also, model-wise, could we sync up the Mad Cat/Timberwolf (and any other Clan/IS designation) into one 'Mech model and file to avoid confusion?

 

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Surely, in the end :) We now have to sort things out. Remember, there isn't a really alpha base yet. I have just a collection of working and modded installations, containing new and old stuff. Of course, the lower poly stuff will be eradicated sooner or later, that will also free up the object limit.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Who ? What ? Why ? How long ?
Using Unseen = bad idea, no matter how cool it would be.  Harmony Gold is a buncha Dicks.

Also, model-wise, could we sync up the Mad Cat/Timberwolf (and any other Clan/IS designation) into one 'Mech model and file to avoid confusion?

When has it been done otherwise, out of curiosity?

 

Offline Starman01

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What do you mean ? The new mechs ? I think magic made them somewhere between 2002 and 2005
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Re: Who ? What ? Why ? How long ?
MechAssault divided all the 'Mechs into two variants of the same model with different weapons; Clan/IS name for the Clan 'Mechs, and IIRC, also a few IS Mechs(they called the alternate version of the Catapult, the Bowman, which is...kind of similar).

The Unseen are really only a problem if you're either selling or otherwise 'official', to my knowledge.

MekTek had their mod to add the unseen Marauder, Marauder II, Archer, Warhammer, Shadow Hawk, and Wasp(possibly more, but don't spring to mind) in MW4: Mercs, many of them for years, until they were tapped to distribute MW4: Mercs for free, which forced them to become legally 'official' entities, rather than just an independent modding group.

Also, it's worth noting that only the Macross-derived 'Mechs are now considered Unseen.
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