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Title: 1999 vs 2018 video
Post by: Iain Baker on October 09, 2018, 09:46:58 am
Hi all. We have probably all seen this fantastic video comparing 1999 vanilla FS2 to the 2014 SCP Media VPs FS2. Since we now have the 3.8.X media VPs, perhaps we need a new version of this showcasing the latest eye candy. It would be gold dust for promotional purposes :-)

Any volunteers?  ;7

I would do it myself, but I have zero experience of FREDing, video editing and most likely any of the other things needed to create a video like this.  :lol:
Title: Re: 1999 vs 2018 video
Post by: jr2 on October 12, 2018, 11:55:52 am
Hmm.  If an appropriate mission was created, it could be easily re-used for the same purpose in the future (perhaps with every MediaVPs release?), as long as it remained compatible. 
Title: Re: 1999 vs 2018 video
Post by: Nightmare on October 12, 2018, 12:06:49 pm
It might be something different but there was a INF trailer showing the quality leap from 2003 and new-INF but I can't find the video right now.
Title: Re: 1999 vs 2018 video
Post by: niffiwan on October 12, 2018, 07:59:26 pm
Hmm.  If an appropriate mission was created, it could be easily re-used for the same purpose in the future (perhaps with every MediaVPs release?), as long as it remained compatible.

IIRC Spidey's cutscene (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDU8KW0SxK8) _is_ a mission that you can download (just not sure where said download is right now)

Now that we have a sweet new Apollo model it'd be nice to replace the Herc2 in the opening sequence :)
Title: Re: 1999 vs 2018 video
Post by: Nightmare on October 12, 2018, 08:07:41 pm
http://www.mediafire.com/file/pjvoudwd9as5o2o/FSO+Trailer+Mission.7z
Title: Re: 1999 vs 2018 video
Post by: niffiwan on October 12, 2018, 08:09:42 pm
thanks! *yoink*
Title: Re: 1999 vs 2018 video
Post by: Iain Baker on October 13, 2018, 05:15:56 am
Hmm.  If an appropriate mission was created, it could be easily re-used for the same purpose in the future (perhaps with every MediaVPs release?), as long as it remained compatible.

IIRC Spidey's cutscene (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDU8KW0SxK8) _is_ a mission that you can download (just not sure where said download is right now)

Now that we have a sweet new Apollo model it'd be nice to replace the Herc2 in the opening sequence :)

New Apollo? Do tell :-)
Title: Re: 1999 vs 2018 video
Post by: Nightmare on October 13, 2018, 05:53:50 am
https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=82686.0
Title: Re: 1999 vs 2018 video
Post by: Achille44 on October 19, 2018, 02:45:38 pm
Hello. I made the 1999 - 2014 comparison video so I could do the same mission with the new media VPs, but maybe it should be more interesting to wait for the 20th anniversary of the game?
Title: Re: 1999 vs 2018 video
Post by: Nightmare on October 19, 2018, 02:52:11 pm
Hello. I made the 1999 - 2014 comparison video so I could do the same mission with the new media VPs, but maybe it should be more interesting to wait for the 20th anniversary of the game?

Why wait over a year to do that??

But I'd suggest to contact (PM) Iain Baker first, so that it can be uploaded to HLPs YT channel if you don't mind, as most FS-related content on YT is spread pver several channels.
Title: Re: 1999 vs 2018 video
Post by: Iain Baker on November 13, 2018, 12:18:50 pm
Hello. I made the 1999 - 2014 comparison video so I could do the same mission with the new media VPs, but maybe it should be more interesting to wait for the 20th anniversary of the game?

Why wait over a year to do that??

But I'd suggest to contact (PM) Iain Baker first, so that it can be uploaded to HLPs YT channel if you don't mind, as most FS-related content on YT is spread pver several channels.

@Achille44 If you could make an up-to-date version of the video that would be great. If we can get it done by Christmas this year that would be even better. Just think, all that Christmas card money that people will need help deciding what to spend it on  ;7
Title: Re: 1999 vs 2018 video
Post by: HLD_Prophecy on November 13, 2018, 12:43:45 pm
*I quietly monetize my mods*
Title: Re: 1999 vs 2018 video
Post by: WhiteFox on December 07, 2018, 11:24:42 pm
I've just tested the Trailer Mission in current state with the acutal MVP 3.8 and the fs2_open_3_8_0_x64_AVX Build from 22.08.18 with wxlauncher and following startup commands:

-mod "MediaVPs_38X" -missile_lighting -3dshockwave
-post_process -soft_particles -fxaa -fb_explosions -fb_thrusters -enable_shadows -3dwarp -warp_flash
-snd_preload -ambient_factor 75 -spec_exp 11 -spec_point 0.6 -spec_static 0.8 -spec_tube 0.4 -ogl_spec 60


It looks pretty awesome! But if there is a new video for the 20th anniversary planned there have to be some bugs fixed:
- the beams of lucifer are to small. (maybe because they are from FS2 MVP instead of FS1 Port ?)
- "we lost the vanisha, repeat: we lost the vanisha" -  there is nothing to see...  buggy camera ?
- maybe there are more, i did not see them after five times testing.
Title: Re: 1999 vs 2018 video
Post by: Mito [PL] on December 09, 2018, 04:34:32 pm
Vanisha? It's Phoenicia :P

Swapping Lucy's beams to LRed or something like that should be trivial.
Title: Re: 1999 vs 2018 video
Post by: WhiteFox on December 12, 2018, 05:55:13 pm
Sorry, i have bad ears :P
Title: Re: 1999 vs 2018 video
Post by: Spidey- on January 06, 2019, 01:55:29 pm

It looks pretty awesome! But if there is a new video for the 20th anniversary planned there have to be some bugs fixed:
- the beams of lucifer are to small. (maybe because they are from FS2 MVP instead of FS1 Port ?)
- "we lost the vanisha, repeat: we lost the vanisha" -  there is nothing to see...  buggy camera ?
- maybe there are more, i did not see them after five times testing.


The original trailer relied on some tricky timing of a few segments. The overall process was to record the trailer a few times and cut together the best versions of each shot. In particular:
1) Bombers blowing up Rakshasa should sync with voice-over.
2) "We lost the Phoenicia" would sometimes blow up before the camera cut to it. But you're right, after 5 tries, there might be a bug.
3) in the next shot "We got em..." should sync with Perseus fighters doing barrel rolls (because of course they have to)

It's been a few years since I looked at the editor, but yah it would be great to see an updated version! I'll see if I can dig up my original files.
I think it's time to update my SCP, I see there are a bunch of remastered mods out now!
Title: Re: 1999 vs 2018 video
Post by: jr2 on January 06, 2019, 06:22:36 pm
If you want to find it fast, use Everything (https://www.voidtools.com/) (after about a minute of 1st time indexing, it will find the filename you type by the time you finish typing).