[Rga_Noris]

The Shivans are very close to attaining completion. That being said, I am announcing that I (and another individual who I will not publicly commit to the project without his nod) will be focusing on bringing all Shivan assets up to par. Meaning that if it is retail, or a very dated HTL, I'm gonna have a whack at it.

Rakshasa should get released next week. Also:



 

EDIT: This will also serve as the Moloch thread.

[CommanderDJ]

THE MOLOCH?

Truly this is an awesome venture. Hope you get it all done! Is there a list somewhere of what's left to do?

[Trivial Psychic]

I thought we already HAD a hi-poly Moloch.  Go for the Demon... its long overdue.

[MatthTheGeek]

Each their own turn, Trivial Psychic, do not be too greedy. The Moloch we currently have is a very old HTL and we could use a new one.

[JCDNWarrior]

Great to see the retail assets becoming HTL, much needed indeed. I wonder if you could move on to custom assets too after this, as there's always the lack of custom HTL Shivan assets. The more the retail assets get upgraded, the more the difference becomes visible.

[mjn.mixael]

*Nods*

[Raven2001]

Any plans on rebuilding the Ravana? I have a unfinished one, that was meant to build upon the current HTL Ravana, and would be more than happy to donate it

Edit: As for the Moloch, I believe all it needs is a UVMap and a decent texture, because the model is very good as it is.

[mjn.mixael]

Meh, do not try and stop us. We -want- to make a new mesh... Also, there's nothing I hate more than remapping someone else's mesh that should have gotten a decent map in the first place. (I'm not talking about tiled, here.. there are blatant flat black spots on the current Moloch...). I would rather make a new mesh than try and figure out someone elses.

And besides, the you could make the same argument about the Ravana.. and yet here you are offering a new Ravana mesh!

[Rodo]

yes, if it's getting upgraded, then you might as well go ahead an do everything from scrach.

Good on uoi guys!

[The Dagger]

Just finished playing ASW2 and thought "Hmm... the Moloch could use some HTL treatment".
And then this.
That's why I love you guys.

And I agree that it's better to start from scratch if possible.

[Raven2001]

Meh, do not try and stop us. We -want- to make a new mesh... Also, there's nothing I hate more than remapping someone else's mesh that should have gotten a decent map in the first place. (I'm not talking about tiled, here.. there are blatant flat black spots on the current Moloch...). I would rather make a new mesh than try and figure out someone elses.

And besides, the you could make the same argument about the Ravana.. and yet here you are offering a new Ravana mesh!

I don't try anything. I just gave my opinion which, by the tone I read above, is not welcome. I'll remember to spare my keyboard in the future...

The Ravana and Moloch aren't comparable, because as they stand, the Moloch is about 6500 polys, for a 730m ship (good for a Corvette). The Ravana is 7000 polys for a 2400m ship.
Which means the Ravana has only +500 polys when it is triple the lenght of the Moloch (not to mention surface area, which is about 4x or 5x the Moloch).
Fly close to a Moloch and your eye will be entertained by variations in shape. If you fly close to the Ravana all you see is huge planes.
Sure, the current Moloch mesh may need some detailing here and there, but nothing major: Even at its current poly count, it feels like something which was built, and thus makes sense visually. The same can't be said for the Ravana.

And I didn't offer a new Ravana mesh. I offered a highly unfinished Ravana mesh.

[mjn.mixael]

*sigh*

Yes, because I disagree with your reasoning and said not to try to stop us, clearly what I said was a personal attack against you and every opinion you might ever give.

You are overreacting, and I suggest if you or I have anything more to discuss about this, that it be taken to PMs.

[Rga_Noris]

I considered just a new texture for it, but I really don't feel that would bring out up to par. While it may improve the look, I don't feel we would get the mileage out of just a new texture that we want.

[Skarab]

Out of curiosity, what are the current plans, if any, for the bigger shivan ships like the Demon and Ravana?

[Rga_Noris]

There are plans to do both. The Ravana has not been started. The demon was last seen with  peterv, who had been out of contact for a while. If no one starts either by the time I finish the moloch, I intend to do so.

[Rampage]

We were talking about the Demon on the Inferno internal forum last week.  And out of all Shivan capital ships, people seem to ignore it like the plague.

R

[Skarab]

The potential for both the Demon and Ravana, as well as the Moloch, is amazing in the hands of someone like Rga based on the previous work he's demonstrated.  I'll be keeping an eye on all of this with great interest.

[mjn.mixael]

We were talking about the Demon on the Inferno internal forum last week.  And out of all Shivan capital ships, people seem to ignore it like the plague.

R

Probably because it's nothing more than a giant fat ass...

(sorry, I accidently hit modify your post instead of quote..  )

[Dragon]

IIRC, Trashman made a HTL Demon. It was a long time ago and knowing Trashman, it's not without issues, but the model was pretty.

[Commander Zane]

From what I remember of some replies regarding that model it was in .cob which most modelers do not and will not deal with.

Even if that's the case, knowing Rga, the Shivans will be in good hands.