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Offline colecampbell666

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Re: Freespace v.s. Star Wars Requirements
They (the GTVA) speculate that they (beams) could, but it was never put into practice. (obviously)
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Re: Freespace v.s. Star Wars Requirements
Well, yeah...If beams pierce fighter shields, I would assume they can pierce Lucifer shields.
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Re: Freespace v.s. Star Wars Requirements
This thread brings mental images of the space battle at the beginning of Episode III with the Lucy unexpectedly jumping in and owning everything.

...I`d watch that if it were a movie.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Freespace v.s. Star Wars Requirements
Well, yeah...If beams pierce fighter shields, I would assume they can pierce Lucifer shields.
It all depends. In FS1, it was stated that the shield surrounding the Lucifer was impervious, not merely resilient, against all weaponry. It raises the question whether or not the shield on the Lucifer even acts the same way as the shields on fighters and bombers. Of course, it could be explained so that the Lucifer's power output makes it possible for it to generate a ridiculously powerful shield. It might also be that the power output of beam cannons is enough to pierce through it much in a similar way that the anti-fighter beams pierce through the shields of smaller craft.

Who knows. No canon evidence. We must guess and make our own assumptions.
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Offline Stormkeeper

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Re: Freespace v.s. Star Wars Requirements
This thread brings mental images of the space battle at the beginning of Episode III with the Lucy unexpectedly jumping in and owning everything.

...I`d watch that if it were a movie.
Mmhmm. So would I.
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Offline GenericCorvette

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Re: Freespace v.s. Star Wars Requirements
The GTVA Colossus took 20 years to build and is 6km in length. The Death Star I has a diameter of 120-160km (depends on your source) and took 20 years to build because of design and supply problems. The Death Star II has a diameter of somewhere between 200km to LOL REALLY BIG and took two to four years to build. Even if the Empire doesn't have ships individually outgunning their GTVA counterpart, the Empire will have a swarm for every single ship the GTVA can construct.

For the sake of the story, you might have to defy logic and canon a teensy bit so the GTVA isn't immedately destroyed.
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Offline Fenrir

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Re: Freespace v.s. Star Wars Requirements
That is a good point. The GTVA has somewhere between 10 and 20 star systems while the Empire has the greater part of an entire galaxy under its command...

But those two facts likely stem from the difference between Subspace and Hyperspace physics. Space travel is more restricted in the FS universe because of the node system, while in Star Wars it`s point, click, and go from anywhere to anywhere. It would be much easier to to expand an empire with free travel like that. For this FanFic you`d have to find some sort of compromise between the two FTL systems.
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Offline jr2

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Re: Freespace v.s. Star Wars Requirements
...Not really.  Perhaps there are multiple ways of FTL travel, and ofc the GTVA would want the new tech for their ships... for weapons, see how many shots it takes to vaporize asteroids of similar proportions.  I think beam cannons would be a big surprise for the Imps, though... I mean, they punch through shields, right?  uh-yup... oopsie, there goes the bridge of that ISD.. and that one, and that one.  Decapitated.  ;7

 

Offline Fenrir

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Re: Freespace v.s. Star Wars Requirements
I always figured that Subspace is the only form of FTL travel in FreeSpace simply by the fact that the Shivans, who have been flying around for at least tens of thousands of years, haven`t come up with anything better.

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Freespace v.s. Star Wars Requirements
I'm guessing other more power hungry methods would work. Also a GTVA commando team might  be able to nick a corvette or something and reverse engineer the hyperspace motivator.
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- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
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-Between the Ashes 2
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-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
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Offline Stormkeeper

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Re: Freespace v.s. Star Wars Requirements
... I think beam cannons would be a big surprise for the Imps, though... I mean, they punch through shields, right?  uh-yup... oopsie, there goes the bridge of that ISD.. and that one, and that one.  Decapitated.  ;7
Finally, a use for slash beams!

Yea, I was thinking that GTVA might win on sheer fact that the only Star Wars ... vehicle ... with beam weapons are the Death Stars.
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Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Freespace v.s. Star Wars Requirements
Until the Imps swallow an Aeolus with an ISD and take it apart to ref how it works.
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
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Offline Stormkeeper

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Re: Freespace v.s. Star Wars Requirements
Until the Imps swallow an Aeolus with an ISD and take it apart to ref how it works.
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Offline ShadowGorrath

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Re: Freespace v.s. Star Wars Requirements
You think ? An Aeolus wouldn't be without escort, and it'd be able to defend itself from an ISD.

 

Offline Stormkeeper

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Re: Freespace v.s. Star Wars Requirements
You think ? An Aeolus wouldn't be without escort, and it'd be able to defend itself from an ISD.
Yea. It does have an SGreen. And if the captain waited for the ISD to close in before firing up into the ISD... 

Also, we don't know if the tractor beams would be enough to overpower the subspace drive firing up.

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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Freespace v.s. Star Wars Requirements
Also, we don't know if the tractor beams would be enough to overpower the subspace drive firing up.

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I'd lol if an Aeolus accidentally dragged an ISD with it during a subspace jump. Have a nice wtf, you Imperial snobs.

Hmm, 2533th post.
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23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Freespace v.s. Star Wars Requirements
A few ion canon would soon sort it out :)
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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Offline Stormkeeper

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Re: Freespace v.s. Star Wars Requirements
You know, in the MechWarrior universe, there was a scenc where a Fox-class corvette jumped out while enganged in combat above New Avalon. It jumped out as it was on a collision course with a destroyer, and when it jumped, the bow sliced through the destroyer, then snapped back and exploded ... I'll go find the passage and type it up proper later on.
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Offline colecampbell666

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Re: Freespace v.s. Star Wars Requirements
I think that each method of space travel has its pros and cons. Subspace travel is near instant, while hyperspace travel is slower but unrestricted.
Gettin' back to dodgin' lasers.

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Freespace v.s. Star Wars Requirements
Didn't someone have to map hyperspace corridoors or something? Also there was a great hyperspace war, what was all that about?
<on topic>> GTVA marines vs ewoks, who wins?
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
GO GO DEKKER RANGERSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The only good Zod is a dead Zod
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