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Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: NeoBasilisk on September 27, 2005, 05:07:36 pm
I've heard people talking about it and heard it's bigger than the Gigas class.
Also, is there a Terran juggernaut called the Icanus?  There were some tech room references to it, and I found a huge terran-looking ship in the .vp, and I was wondering if that was it.
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: Woomeister on September 27, 2005, 05:31:48 pm
The Icanus is the largest EA ship.
I don't think I have any online pics of the Gargant right now. It's kind of a big Sathanas looking thing. 37.8km long with 110 turrets.
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: MrBig101 on September 27, 2005, 06:11:58 pm
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37.8km long


*jawdropstofloor*
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: NeoBasilisk on September 28, 2005, 07:29:16 am
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Originally posted by Woomeister
The Icanus is the largest EA ship.
I don't think I have any online pics of the Gargant right now. It's kind of a big Sathanas looking thing. 37.8km long with 110 turrets.

I don't know whether I should be salivating or going into seizures. :lol:
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: Woomeister on September 28, 2005, 07:41:47 am
It's also near invulnerable to every weapon in the modpack, with only the Icanus main cannon able to scratch it.
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: remus on September 28, 2005, 08:39:24 am
that's why it is designated Shivan Hive Gargant...
it looks really massive to me... the Gigas is also very big (long) but since it's tiny it does not appear to be as threat as Sathanas... that's why I like Gargant... it's simply like Lindos... it looks big although the are bigger ships... but Gargant does not only appear to be big... it really is...
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: Woomeister on September 28, 2005, 09:00:21 am
The Gigas is 22km long, 91 turrets and has the offensive power of at least 10 Armitayas, or 15 Saths.

You should be more afraid of the Gigas than Gargant, as you'll have to deal with the Gigas directly...
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: remus on September 28, 2005, 10:42:38 am
Of course... but for me the Sathanas/Gargant looks scarier than Gigas... it's just my opinion...as they seem to be more content...
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: NeoBasilisk on September 28, 2005, 11:11:04 am
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Originally posted by remus
Of course... but for me the Sathanas/Gargant looks scarier than Gigas... it's just my opinion...as they seem to be more content...

So how have you seen the Gangant?  Are you part of the team, or do you just have inside information?
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: Woomeister on September 28, 2005, 11:13:49 am
Gargant pics have been posted several times over the last three years, he probably saw it last time it was posted...
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: T-Man on September 28, 2005, 11:28:16 am
Gargant in a nutshell:

Take a Sathanas, increase it size 10x, increase length by 3x. Cover it with beam cannons the size of crusiers and stick a bigger subspace weapon on the front...viola, the Gargant.

If you look at the publicity shots on the credits screen of R1, there is a render called "Unstoppable". The large Shivan ship in the centre is the Gargant.
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: remus on September 28, 2005, 12:12:55 pm
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Originally posted by NeoBasilisk

So how have you seen the Gangant?  Are you part of the team, or do you just have inside information?
You can find it here http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/hlp/file_show.php?fil=188
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: Woomeister on September 28, 2005, 12:41:53 pm
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Originally posted by T-Man
Gargant in a nutshell:

Take a Sathanas, increase it size 10x, increase length by 3x. Cover it with beam cannons the size of crusiers and stick a bigger subspace weapon on the front...viola, the Gargant.

Actually take a Gigas Type 1, slice off the bottom, rotate it and mirror it, rescale, and you get a Gargant.

Yeah that render by Setekh is it, that's an older version though with less turrets.
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: Woomeister on September 28, 2005, 01:02:09 pm
For those who can't remember:

Gigas:
(http://www.3dactionplanet.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/gigaslab.jpg)

Icanus:
(http://www.3dactionplanet.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/icanuslab.jpg)
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: T-Man on September 28, 2005, 04:37:47 pm
Huh? What's happened to the Gigas. It looks so wierd. So does the Icanus for that matter. Then again i've never seen them in HTL before, so maybe its just the light.

What program is that BTW? Modelveiw?
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: Woomeister on September 28, 2005, 05:30:09 pm
Both are newer models to the R1 variants. The Gigas is quite different, with some changes to the Icanus.

That's the latest Inferno build
(press F3 in the mainhall in any fs open build)
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: T-Man on September 29, 2005, 09:30:51 am
[sarcasm] Does the Icanus actually have a fighterbay now? :lol: [/sarcasm].

Unless you want to keep it a mystery, could we see a brighter pic of the new Gigas model? It just doesn't look right in that pic, and knowing the godlike modeling skill the team has, i'm guessing its the pic not doing it true justice.
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: Woomeister on September 29, 2005, 09:54:23 am
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Originally posted by T-Man
Does the Icanus actually have a fighterbay now?

In between the forward railguns.

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Originally posted by T-Man
Unless you want to keep it a mystery, could we see a brighter pic of the new Gigas model? It just doesn't look right in that pic, and knowing the godlike modeling skill the team has, i'm guessing its the pic not doing it true justice.


(http://www.3dactionplanet.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/INFShot012.jpg)
We haven't got any modelers anymore, haven't had any for over a year.
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: T-Man on September 29, 2005, 12:05:10 pm
I'd hate to say it, but i don't really like the look of the new Gigas. It looks really basic compared to the Icanus. Maybe its just the camera positions.
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: Woomeister on September 29, 2005, 12:15:32 pm
Well it is only 814 polygons, the Icanus is a lot higher than that.
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: Woomeister on September 29, 2005, 03:49:19 pm
There's no official capacity numbers for either ship. But a lot.

The Gigas has 2 fighterbays.
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: Depth_Charge on September 29, 2005, 07:21:15 pm
ship is too big, if i walk the movie would be over........
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: Mongoose on September 29, 2005, 11:13:13 pm
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Originally posted by Depth_Charge
ship is too big, if i walk the movie would be over........

Hehe :p

Is 841 the final polycount for the Gigas?  I'm not saying that the pic looks outdated (in fact, that thing's looking very nice :)), but it is unusual for a capital ship to have such a low polycount, much less one as big as this.  Was that just a style decision, or is it because you haven't had a modeler to go back over it?
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: Trivial Psychic on September 30, 2005, 12:22:11 am
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Originally posted by Depth_Charge
ship is too big, if i walk the movie would be over........

Took me a while to get that quote. :lol:
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: Woomeister on September 30, 2005, 04:16:56 am
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Originally posted by Mongoose
Is 841 the final polycount for the Gigas?

841 is the polycount for the basic hull. Which falls under the retail limit of 850. The polycount for lod0 with all turrets and other bits is 2248 polygons. The Icanus is 5543 polygons total for lod0.
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: mr.WHO on September 30, 2005, 06:10:38 am
What is the "Auriga-C" ??
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: Woomeister on September 30, 2005, 06:17:51 am
It has different stats to the normal one. It's required for mission 5.
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: Dave2040 on September 30, 2005, 04:55:26 pm
Hm.... I think i don't really like the Gigas...
The Icanus looks a lot better than the Gigas.. o.O
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: Darius on October 01, 2005, 03:15:42 am
The shape of the Gigas is fine, it's the tiling of the textures that lets the model down. It's most apparent on the 'wings' that stretch downwards.
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: Woomeister on October 01, 2005, 04:10:34 am
The Gigas is heavily tiled as you'll be flying very close to it, and the tiling prevents the textures from looking bad.

[quoteI sure wish that you could show us all the ships and allow us to read the tech description of each.[/quote]

A lot of tech descriptions are inaccurate/old and some are missing for newer ships.
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: Darius on October 01, 2005, 05:20:55 am
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Originally posted by Woomeister
We haven't got any modelers anymore, haven't had any for over a year.


*nods* damn...

Tiling makes sense if there's no one to make a detailed model. :yes:

So is that your model Woomeister, or an older one? Because I don't see how you'd have the time to both make ships and organise the mod. :shaking:
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: Woomeister on October 01, 2005, 05:34:45 am
That Gigas? I made that not long after R1 as I wasn't satisfied with the R1 version, which also has several bugs in it.

I still make the occasional model, such as the new Arcas, extensions and the new Shivan cruisers, however it's very rare for me to make models now.

I also don't do HTL models. I don't have the time for those.

I maintain the modpack, make any new cb anis that are needed, Test and fix bugs. compile the new INF Builds, update/fix any models when required, make new ones now and then, and even work on some of the missions.
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: WeatherOp on October 01, 2005, 02:01:22 pm
I really don't like the way the Gigas looks, I thought by the way it was talked about, it would strike fear into whoever saw it, and it's shape really cuts that out quick.

However the Icanus looks like a really cool ship.;)
Title: Are there any pics of the Gargant?
Post by: Woomeister on October 01, 2005, 02:25:11 pm
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Originally posted by WeatherOp
I thought by the way it was talked about, it would strike fear into whoever saw it

Nope that happens after it fires on its targets :D