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Title: Considering buying a PS3
Post by: Dark Hunter on January 16, 2012, 12:58:53 am
Yeah, weird. But they're down to $250 now and there's a few exclusive games I want to try out.

Considering I own a Wii and an Xbox 360 already, am I just being silly, or are PS3 exclusive titles worth it?

Ah, maybe I should clarify which titles I mean: Disgaea 3 and 4, as well as Gundam Extreme Vs. Those are the ones I'm interested in at the moment.
Title: Re: Considering buying a PS3
Post by: deathfun on January 16, 2012, 02:41:26 am
Well, I've never played those titles, but if it's exclusives you're looking at may as well eh
However, I'd suggest waiting for pricing on the exclusives to drop anyhow. That way, you can get more bang for your buck
Title: Re: Considering buying a PS3
Post by: Veers on January 16, 2012, 02:52:16 am
Own all three, enjoy all three. Completely upto you if you want to play those titles, if you dont have a blu-ray player, it also is a good benefit.

Mind you, bought the Wii new after release. Bought the PS3 for $400 3 weeks old, never used. (RRP for all of the gear is slightly over $800). And the 360 when a local store stuffed up majorly. So Kinect Bundle with the large hdd version, + 4 games and controller for the same price as the 4GB Kinect Bundle with 2 games. They tried swapping it out with a 4GB so I had a good go at them... good times. :)

Title: Re: Considering buying a PS3
Post by: Patriot on January 16, 2012, 05:51:36 am
I myself own a 360, my buddy has all three, he plays his 360 pretty much all the time, we use the PS3 as a Blu-Ray player.

But, if a few of your friends have a PS3 and no 360 and you want to play with them online, i'd say go for it, unless the exclusives are the sole reason to buy one, personally i wouldn't, but it's up to you on that one.
Title: Re: Considering buying a PS3
Post by: Dragon on January 16, 2012, 07:03:27 am
A good, fast PC should be able to emulate PS3 without any problems.
Title: Re: Considering buying a PS3
Post by: The E on January 16, 2012, 07:24:53 am
Aaaaahhahahahahahahahahahaha

Oh, Dragon. You are sooo wrong. So very, very wrong. x86-based PCs will not be able to emulate a PS3 for several years.
Title: Re: Considering buying a PS3
Post by: LHN91 on January 16, 2012, 08:13:04 am
A good, fast PC should be able to emulate PS3 without any problems.

PS2 emulation is not particularly easy at the moment (to get smooth, 60fps gameplay at any rate), let alone PS3.
Title: Re: Considering buying a PS3
Post by: Mort on January 16, 2012, 08:18:49 am
The problem with emulating is that you need roughly 10 times the processing power so ps3 emulators won't be coming for several years yet
Title: Re: Considering buying a PS3
Post by: Davros on January 16, 2012, 02:08:45 pm
That day is here (according to some)

PCs have 10x console horsepower - AMD
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-21-pcs-have-10x-console-horsepower-amd
Title: Re: Considering buying a PS3
Post by: deathfun on January 16, 2012, 06:00:46 pm
Not only that, but you need a game of which can look 10x as good in the same cost as it would be 1x as good
Title: Re: Considering buying a PS3
Post by: The E on January 16, 2012, 06:26:00 pm
The references in the article are pretty damn wrong. In terms of raw GPU horsepower, a Radeon 7970 (The most powerful single-gpu card on the market at the moment) has about 7 times the processing power of the one found in the 360 (And given that the PS3 GPU comes from the same generation, the same is true there).

However, that's not the problem.

The problem with emulating modern consoles (or any console in the history of ever), is that it's not enough to just find a way to make the binaries run on another hardware, you have to find a way to accurately emulate the actual hardware and its quirks. Modern console programs are heavily optimized for the hardware they are running on; if we take the PS3 and Uncharted as an example, Naughty Dog are using several of the Cell's SPUs to offload postprocessing duties on the fly. This is something noone would ever do on a PC, and a case in which a direct translation of the process to the PC architecture would incur slowdowns like crazy.

Right now, we're just about able to emulate PS2s, 12 years after that system's debut. Because it took that long to reverse-engineer and recreate the internal workings of the PS2 to a degree where emulation is mostly stable. Getting to the same level with the PS3 and 360 will take quite a bit longer.
Title: Re: Considering buying a PS3
Post by: Enzo03 on January 16, 2012, 06:36:31 pm
Even worse is the state of original Xbox emulation. :)
Title: Re: Considering buying a PS3
Post by: Mongoose on January 16, 2012, 06:49:41 pm
Even worse is the state of original Xbox emulation. :)
Yeah, which annoys the heck out of me.  I have a "copy" of the game Metal Wolf Chaos, a hilarious Japanese-exclusive title featuring a future president of the US fighting his way across the country in a giant robot to take on the usurping vice-president, but I have absolutely no way of playing it.

As for the PS3, given the current price point, I could easily see myself getting one at some point this year once I have some real income.  I don't own a personal Blu-ray player yet, and there are a few exclusives (the Uncharted series, the upcoming The Last Guardian) that I definitely wouldn't mind playing.
Title: Re: Considering buying a PS3
Post by: Dark Hunter on January 16, 2012, 10:49:09 pm
I have a "copy" of the game Metal Wolf Chaos, a hilarious Japanese-exclusive title featuring a future president of the US fighting his way across the country in a giant robot to take on the usurping vice-president, but I have absolutely no way of playing it.

I've never understood why this wasn't released in America. I mean, really. The American President kicking ass in a giant robot all over the US, shouting lines about freedom and liberty and whatnot all the while?
Title: Re: Considering buying a PS3
Post by: Mongoose on January 17, 2012, 12:58:20 am
The only thing I can think of is that the publisher was concerned about the title possibly generating a negative reaction in the US...which would imply that they have no concept of the US market, because more than a few people over here would have eaten that thing up.  Hell, the localization would have been a snap, since it's all in (wonderfully cheesy) English in the first place.
Title: Re: Considering buying a PS3
Post by: LordMelvin on January 18, 2012, 01:58:03 am
I have a "copy" of the game Metal Wolf Chaos, a hilarious Japanese-exclusive title featuring a future president of the US fighting his way across the country in a giant robot to take on the usurping vice-president, but I have absolutely no way of playing it.

I've never understood why this wasn't released in America. I mean, really. The American President kicking ass in a giant robot all over the US, shouting lines about freedom and liberty and whatnot all the while?

The vice-president is the villain. Of course Cheney had the black-helicopter guys block it.