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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: aldo_14 on July 08, 2001, 01:28:00 pm
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I mean, surely if you have a wee ship hauling several tonnes of high explosives in a congested environment, it might be a good idea to not make it a sitting duck?
Can you add turrets to the support ship?
Also, am I the only one who feel sorry for the poor sod who has to pilot the thing?
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yes, most likely. I don't feel sorry for him. He flies that because he most likely was caught shooting alpha 2... lol...
you probably could put a turret on it, but why? it goes 70... lol
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I think making them able to defend themselves would be a good idea
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hell.. slap some secondary banks on it, and you got a missile frigate (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
and it holds every weapon (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
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Um... kind of like THIS one? =)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/tps/images/trojan.gif)
This is the Trojan support ship. It has two gun turrets for defense while re-arming. Read more about it at the Perfect Storm site here. =) http://www.3dap.com/hlp/tps/ships.shtml ("http://www.3dap.com/hlp/tps/ships.shtml")
[This message has been edited by Black Ace (edited 07-20-2001).]
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However, when armed the Shivans might see it as a direct thread and destroy it. While unarmed it is of no thread.
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Originally posted by Darkstar:
However, when armed the Shivans might see it as a direct thread and destroy it. While unarmed it is of no thread.
Unarmed it is an easily kill.... and no fighter pilot (Shivan or not) can pass that up.
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I think that the main thing about support ship is that they should be autoguided, no pilot onboard...
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Originally posted by morris13:
Um... kind of like THIS one? =)
Awww... I saw this thread, and was gonna p1mp... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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[This message has been edited by Black Ace (edited 07-10-2001).]
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But to get a turret on it, you'd have to put a "bomber" or cruiser ^ flag, which would make enemies target it even faster...
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Originally posted by morris13:
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/tps/images/trojan.gif)
Need... a bigger... pic. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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So make one... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by Snipes:
But to get a turret on it, you'd have to put a "bomber" or cruiser ^ flag, which would make enemies target it even faster...
Transport will work too, Blackace made an argo a support ship and that worked just fine. I'm not sure that this would nessecarily make things attack it more often, but if it did at least it would be able to defend itself =)
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hey but changing the flag would make it a bomber/carrier etc and not a support ship will it still work then?
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Originally posted by Black Ace:
So make one... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
So give me the model... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/devil.gif)
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Originally posted by The Avenger:
hey but changing the flag would make it a bomber/carrier etc and not a support ship will it still work then?
It will and it does. Its been tested.
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Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw:
What is that (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/devil.gif) smily?!?!?!
Its a devil smoking a thin pipe!! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
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Originally posted by venom2506:
I think that the main thing about support ship is that they should be autoguided, no pilot onboard...
Didn't the Vasudans have one in FS1?
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FS1 Vasudan support was autopiloted and all supports in FS2 are autopiloted...I think.
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Originally posted by Mr. Fury:
FS1 Vasudan support was autopiloted and all supports in FS2 are autopiloted...I think.
Actually in FS2 the support ships are manned, whenever you ask to rearm you get a message (complete with Terran/Vasudan pilot .ani) saying that the support ship is on its way. I can't help but think the progression from unmanned to manned support ships is kind of a step backwards for the Vasudans though...
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yeah, right...?
Plus the scarab looked so much cooler (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) I once replaced the herc II with a scarab MOD of mine (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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? the new vasudan support ship gots a great design, it's maybe the new vasudan design I prefer.
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I made a fighter out of that one as well.
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Yup, I see, nice idea (the ship is a little overkill but oh well (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) )
I'm doing a new support ship, and basically, the idea is: No weapons, no missile, nothing, just engines and shileds... that makes lots of power unused, no? Result: shields 6 times stronger (for now, coz it may be tonned up because of the general increase of fire power around).
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Originally posted by venom2506:
? the new vasudan support ship gots a great design, it's maybe the new vasudan design I prefer.
I agree. But it is true, why would you go from unmanned to manned? Unmanned = more efficient, no need for life systems, etc...
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Hm... I think I'm going to do a fix of that some day... But first I have to finish the BDP (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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i have a comment which has plagued me for a while........
if a support ship is carry serveral tons of live ammunition into a battle feild and i "ahem" blow it up (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) there should be a shockwave from all that amounition going up, with all those warheads, expecially anti capship weapons, that thing should have a decent shock wave of at least....1km, (3 is better (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif))
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Well, just because there is a face... It doesn't mean that there has to be a pilot. It could be a generic face.
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mmh, a generic face that talks vasudan and must then be translated? Damn, my computer is more efficient then (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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Remote control.
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But if it was unmanned, it would... yeah. It's a game! That's why!
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Originally posted by Ypoknons:
Well, just because there is a face... It doesn't mean that there has to be a pilot. It could be a generic face.
Or a ship AI (kinda like Rommie in Andromeda)
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There is a big problem when it comes to giving ships a 'cruiser' or 'freighter' tag.
It makes them valid targets for any of the anti-capital ship beam weapons!
I know this, I edited the ursa to be a 'freighter' and not a 'bomber' where you can easily add and use the aaa beams.
So what do I do, go flying around, go attack a demon, and get shot down by a LRed, or BFRed, one or the other...
And even on -very easy- they are dead shots with those things. x.0
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The ursa doesn't have to be touched to add AAA beams
Just put player_allowed in the weapon flag and it will work on all bomber turrets...
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I think I had done that at one point, but it never fired in game. Not untill I'd call for a reload, then it'd start firing regular rounds (Kayser if I'm not mistaken, haven't toyed with it in awhile)
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Well. I dunno what you did wrong, maybe you didn't beam-free-all it, I dunno, but to answer the question originally asked in this topic:
why doesn't the support ship have guns?
Because that would be practical. And you know how the GTVA feels about things being done right.