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Announcements => Announcements => Topic started by: Sandwich on July 21, 2006, 08:55:19 pm
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What do you guys think? I added a nav bar up top, and changed the BG color of the forums from solid black to #222222. Yay? Yuk?
I'm thinking of adding the bar to all the HLP sections - front page, wiki, etc. Make it look nice and unified.
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I can barely see the BG change, could be my monitor setting, the bar looks fine though :)
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easier to read.. :yes:
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I can barely see the BG change, could be my monitor setting, the bar looks fine though :)
Yeah, I've got an old CRT on one computer here like that too. :p
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Yup, boring old 22" CRT here :( It's always run a bit dark, ever since I got it.
Really need to upgrade to a flat screen at some point, especially considering how much of my desk this monster takes up :(
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Oh, and in the name of avoiding being called a lazy hypocrite, I also removed the SMF logo image. :p
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What confuses me is why, whenever HLP adds a link to Sectorgame, Sectorgame stops responding, I swear it's a jinx :lol:
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The bar I noticed... the sectorgame link is displayed over the Hardlight Network text... and the background change realy stands out... not sure if I like it yet... perhaps 111111 would have been more subtle...?
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You're running at 1024, aren't ya? :p And some people, namely those with CRT monitors, can barely see the BG change at all.
EDIT: Try now - I took out the "The" from "The Freespace FAQ" - that should have shortened it enough to prevent it from overflowing.
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Looks nice. I think the logo is a bit... huge and the background clashes too much with the black of the posts. If the background was a darker shade or grey... Maybe.
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Point by point:
The link bar is nice. The forum nav bar still duplicates some of it, but that's just a minor detail to sort out.
Is the big HLP logo supposed to only have full colours on mouse-over? If so, I prefer it the old way, looks kinda boring without them, not to mention it's distracting if you move the mouse over it by accident.
Now, for the background... I don't like the grey. It just doesn't really go with the rest when used in this magnitude I think. If black is too dark (I rather liked it, though), perhaps some dark shade of red would be more fitting, just not grey.
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Not bad, but I really don't like the new colour for the HLP logo and name. The previous colour designs were much nicer, IMO.
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You're running at 1024, aren't ya? :p And some people, namely those with CRT monitors, can barely see the BG change at all.
Yeah... thats the highest this laptop can support. 's also why I see the grey so well. LCD screen...
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The bar is a good idea, especially the wiki link, but I can't say I like the color change at all. (it shows up fine on my CRT, unfortunately :p)
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What the hell is a CRT?
Me likes the new change, although all i see is choco-brown and black BG.
also please get rid of these ugly things: (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/Themes/HLP/images/on.gif) (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/Themes/HLP/images/off.gif)
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Like the logo, dislike the new BG color.
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What the hell is a CRT?
Cathode Ray Tube screen.
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Melikes the new design. Liked the old one too, so it doesn't make a difference to me anyways.
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What the hell is a CRT?
Cathode Ray Tube screen.
now i'm totally clueless. :p
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Nice adjustments. I like the bar, and the background colour is still O.K. IMO Just dont make it any brigther, I love dark forums. I spent so much time here, and a dark sheme is more friendly to my eyes :)
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What the hell is a CRT?
Cathode Ray Tube screen.
now i'm totally clueless. :p
CRT (http://games.tiscali.cz/hardware/tema/lcdvscrtmonitor/viewsonic-crt.jpg)
TFT LCD (http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00094E0FS.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
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I would prefer a bit darker background. Then again, I prefer everything to be dark. But there is a contrast between the background and the dark message boxes and I don't like it.
I like the logo itself. But there is something amiss in the bar. The right side looks so empty...
I can live with this (barely). But I will be keeping an eye on Fury incase this is his secret plan to "brighten up" HLP. There will be fire from the sky long before the My Little Ponies show up. I promise. :snipe:
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I love the alterations you applied :) *tumb up*
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But I will be keeping an eye on Fury incase this is his secret plan to "brighten up" HLP.
:rolleyes:
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Missing links to other FS communities such as GTD Bastion and Hades Combine. "Mantis" should be "HLP Mantis" to differentiate if from the SCP Mantis. "Source Code Project" should be "The Source Code Project" and "Freespace" should be "FreeSpace".
New HLP Logo
Don't like it, it takes too much space on top and it's distracting when it changes colours.
Background color
I actually like this change, it adds some nice contrast. A shame if most CRT users can't tell the difference.
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Quiet you. The whole damned thing is awesome. :D Nice work Sandwich.
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I like the nav bar, the logo could go away entirely, though. (Presumeably it only takes 1-2 visits for someone to realize that this is 'Hard Light Productions', after that it's just extra distance to scroll.
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Missing links to other FS communities such as GTD Bastion and Hades Combine. "Mantis" should be "HLP Mantis" to differentiate if from the SCP Mantis. "Source Code Project" should be "The Source Code Project" and "Freespace" should be "FreeSpace".
Ok, as you can see with Raa up there, the problem is that unless I go to using acronyms, I can't add anything more up there lest the 1024 users cry out in admonition.
I'll try to figure out something... I've got an idea.
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Looks nice, I like :yes:
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Missing links to other FS communities such as GTD Bastion and Hades Combine. "Mantis" should be "HLP Mantis" to differentiate if from the SCP Mantis. "Source Code Project" should be "The Source Code Project" and "Freespace" should be "FreeSpace".
Ok, as you can see with Raa up there, the problem is that unless I go to using acronyms, I can't add anything more up there lest the 1024 users cry out in admonition.
I'll try to figure out something... I've got an idea.
:wtf: Didn't cry out. Just stated that it wasnt coded in a way that it would dynamically sort itself when the screen is smaller.
Isnt the standard for web page encoding supposed to be that people as far down as 800x600 should be able to see the screen correctly? 's not my fault I dont have a 21" HD LCD screen that can tilt to all different angles and resolutions :p This tablet only supports 1024x768 and 800x600. :sigh:
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Missing links to other FS communities such as GTD Bastion and Hades Combine. "Mantis" should be "HLP Mantis" to differentiate if from the SCP Mantis. "Source Code Project" should be "The Source Code Project" and "Freespace" should be "FreeSpace".
Ok, as you can see with Raa up there, the problem is that unless I go to using acronyms, I can't add anything more up there lest the 1024 users cry out in admonition.
I'll try to figure out something... I've got an idea.
:wtf: Didn't cry out. Just stated that it wasnt coded in a way that it would dynamically sort itself when the screen is smaller.
Isnt the standard for web page encoding supposed to be that people as far down as 800x600 should be able to see the screen correctly? 's not my fault I dont have a 21" HD LCD screen that can tilt to all different angles and resolutions :p This tablet only supports 1024x768 and 800x600. :sigh:
Webpages should really be completely scalable to as small as possible. Even with people on 800x600 you cannot assume that they will be viewing sites in full screen.
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In an ideal world, gentlemen. I'm working on some things. Update in an hour or so.
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K, I like both, but that logo is ugly. :p
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Missing links to other FS communities such as GTD Bastion and Hades Combine. "Mantis" should be "HLP Mantis" to differentiate if from the SCP Mantis. "Source Code Project" should be "The Source Code Project" and "Freespace" should be "FreeSpace".
There's an HLP Mantis? :wtf: When I saw the Mantis link I thought it's obviously the SCP one everyone here knows about.
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Take the silly mouseover thing off the logo and it'd make a bit of an improvment. Put 'productions' on the top line as well and reduce the vertical size of the HLP logo proportionally, and it'd be fine. :)
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I agree, if you want to keep a mouseover, that's fine, but the default mouseover state doesn't make the forum look good.
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Got a new thing for the top bar going, check it out.
Now, logo. I understand smaller, but which do you prefer, the faded or the mouseover state?
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Well, the top is looking garbled to me :(
As for the HLP thing, I'm not sure, the whole mouse-over thing just smacks a little of 'Look what I can do!' ;)
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Well, the top is looking garbled to me :(
What OS, browser and does your browser allow pages to choose their own fonts? Do you have a font called FreeSans installed?
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"Garbled" does not help. Screenshot helps. ;)
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He probably got what I got where the top got all screwed up on loading. A refresh sorted it out.
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Yup, it's sorted now, for some odd reason it even had links to Sectorgames 'Eve' section in it :wtf:
Edit : Ahhhh.. I see what happened, it was trying to display all the drop-downs at once I think :)
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I changed board layout a bit, I'd like your input if this is better or worse compared to the old layout. All this change does it to make better use of child boards (also known as sub-boards). If this change sucks, I'll change it back to the old way.
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I liked Hard light art as it's own board...
EDIT: and shouldn't missions and campaings go with all the other FRED boards?
EDIT2: I agree with prophet (below)
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The old way was better. I don't wan't to dig trought numerous menus/windows/boards to get what I wan't. Windows makes me do that. And I think FREDing and modding are very different kinds of things, so I don't understand why to mix them...
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I liked Hard Light Art as a seperate board.
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My suggestion is to make the logo always look like when it's mouseover'd and make it slightly smaller, thereby reducing the size of the too-large header box thingy.
Overall I like it. Nothing too drastic, but why mess with a good thing.
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The Logo looks ub3r sweet when the mouse is over it, but I hadn't realized that until Rictor pointed it out. Make it like that all the time!
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The menus up top don't work out with Opera 9 very well. They appear with parts of the entries missing, go behind the ads, and don't go away when I take my mouse away from it. (All seen in the pic below). Also I can't get the Gamewarden or Sectorgame menus to open up.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/NarfPics/fubarhlp.png)
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I like the new color; it's easier on the eyes. But I don't like the new design layout. (I know what the poll says, I hit the wrong button...Curse my sleepwalking posts...) The top bar just seems a little fussy and redundant. I have always found it easy to get where I want to go just using the existing links. It was also easy just to troll the forums looking for interesting stuff.
The new logo layout also bugs me. I'm super-organized and I like to have everything work efficiently. I run at 1152 x 864 res, and the logo and it's accompanying background just seem too big. It's a little "in your face" is the only way I can describe it. Maybe you could shrink it down or make an option to collapse it? (Like the little +/- sign next to the date and time for the section below "Hello <name>".)
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Axem, try force-refreshing.
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Can I sugget the dropdown menus also have some hover-over tips telling people what they are.
You know what "Hades Combine" is and I know what it is, but not everyone knows what it is.
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I have checked their website several times but I still don't know what it is. :p :D
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Fury: Didn't fix it, though I did find where the GW and Sectorgame menus pop up... A bit too far right if you ask me. :p
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/NarfPics/extremeright.png)
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What OS and browser?
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Opera 9, Windows 2000 SP4
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Eh, looks like I am in the minority of dislike.
I always link peple directly to the forums anyway...
Speaking of which... Is it just me or did the voice acting forum disappear? (ready to reach for dust covered frozen trout!)
[EDIT]: Nevermind, found it. Damn you Child Boards!!! :P
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I hate Opera. :p
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Where did the cool logo go?
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Mouseover one looked better than current one IMO.
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Well, I asked (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,41126.msg839386.html#msg839386), but nobody bothered to reply, so now yer stuck with it. You cry. :p
Also, if anyone has any suggestions as to sites or hosted projects that are missing from the top bar, let me know - WITH URL's, mind you. :)
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What's with your like for the greyed out logo all the time ? Just use the lit up logo it looks way better than what's currently up there.
Is it greyed out so as not to attract the attention of a Katyusha rocket ? :D
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That logo IS lit up. Or do you mean the text? ;)
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The whole thing... the logo text... should be lit up.
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I prefer the text un-lit up. The logo lit makes it stand out and it's unobtrusive with subdued text.
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It looks really dull if it isn't lit up, and it's not like you see it when you are looking at posts.. but on first impression, it looks really weak "grayed" like that.
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Some ideas for the home page; a hover color for the links in the news entries, have you tried making the top-bottom-sides shadows transparent? I wonder if it'll blend in better, the logo could take less height space and look more graphical like the last or the one before :nod: thats all atm.
I changed board layout a bit, I'd like your input if this is better or worse compared to the old layout. All this change does it to make better use of child boards (also known as sub-boards). If this change sucks, I'll change it back to the old way.
The forum boards layout looks better now :yes:
I hate Opera. :p
I thought you would have built the menu and tested it in FireFox and Opera... IEs the last browser I would have applied the fixes for personally. Anyway Opera 9 is more up to scratch with standards then any other browser, but because it loads 'slowly' I use FireFox :D
The layout looks more modern which I really like and I'm looking forward to its completion. Last of all the navigation bar which whosever idea was should be congratulated, this addition I truly appreciate since I can access the rest of the site from the forums specifically. Well Done!