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Title: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Fury on November 17, 2006, 12:39:10 am
With any luck, we can finally commence moving to a new server later today. The server in question is the same that is currently hosting Game Warden. http://www.game-warden.com

Downtime, if everything goes smoothly will be  approximately 2 days and HLP will be back in business on Sunday. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Mefustae on November 17, 2006, 12:41:28 am
...prepare for the worst.
Life without HLP?
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 17, 2006, 03:35:40 am
I have complete confidence in the Hard Light administration that it will be back up by monday, if not then by the time i return.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Setekh on November 17, 2006, 04:50:29 am
Life without HLP?

Don't worry, we're capable of destruction on a far greater scale than that. We can destroy HLP and create a new community of disgruntled ex-hosted staff members!

Umm... :nervous:
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 17, 2006, 04:52:59 am
That would be both scary innovative and purplexing all at the same time.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Wobble73 on November 17, 2006, 05:09:47 am
A weekend without HLP! WAAAAAAA!


Wait, I don't come here at the weekends! ;)
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: an0n on November 17, 2006, 05:21:05 am
So now when the server dies it takes down two of our hubs.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Fury on November 17, 2006, 05:25:20 am
All the better, maybe people actually get something done during that downtime. :p
In reality, it wouldn't be either of our choice if we could afford it.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Mefustae on November 17, 2006, 05:40:13 am
Don't worry, we're capable of destruction on a far greater scale than that. We can destroy HLP and create a new community of disgruntled ex-hosted staff members!

Umm... :nervous:
My... My God! It's worse than I could ever have imagined!! *Jumps out nearest window*
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: asyikarea51 on November 17, 2006, 06:55:47 am
Understood.

Hmm, methinks I should go download some of the pages off the wiki later. Might need to refer to them if I'm playing with my tables during the downtime... :)
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Fury on November 18, 2006, 12:42:48 pm
The move is now complete, everything seems to work. Don't hesitate to inform the admins if you see something not functioning as they did before Friday. Now we just need to wait for DNS to update and point to this new server.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Shade on November 18, 2006, 12:53:04 pm
A day ahead of schedule, nice :) Everything seems to work and is pretty responsive, tried the wiki, main page and the private scp forums and it's behaving as it's supposed to. And unlike the last server move, this time I can't see any private forums that I'm not supposed to see. Good job :yes:
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Sandwich on November 18, 2006, 06:31:03 pm
Yeah, MAJOR kudos to Fury for this undertaking. He's amazing. :yes:
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: vyper on November 18, 2006, 07:35:12 pm
This seems to have been painless.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Flipside on November 18, 2006, 07:39:48 pm
This seems to have been painless.

You know, that's like saying 'Looks like we're going to make it without incident....' ;)
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: achtung on November 18, 2006, 08:58:23 pm
Now that we've moved, how about we get lvlshot working hmmm?  :p
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Shade on November 18, 2006, 09:44:31 pm
Well, one problem. Minor one. The 'last post' for each forum on the index page also shows posts from private forums I don't have access to.

Currently I can see post titles from the WSC, MG, MT, BWO, TBP and TAP private forums. The posts are still inaccessible though, and the nested forums don't actually show up if I go to the relevant forum. So not a big deal... as long as noone puts anything secret in a post title, at least, as that would show up for everyone.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Fury on November 19, 2006, 01:47:14 am
Well, one problem. Minor one. The 'last post' for each forum on the index page also shows posts from private forums I don't have access to.
For some reason this seems to pop up every now and then and then disappears as suddenly as it appeared. It's a small bug in SMF somewhere, or could be a side effect of using older RC2 templates.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Starman01 on November 19, 2006, 07:35:37 am
It was also that way before the server move, I'm pretty sure I saw a few one and were not allowed to view them.

Congrats to the quick move guys, I found no bigger problems so far (it's a little slower than before, but not so much that it would disturb)
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Mefustae on November 19, 2006, 07:48:20 am
Well, one problem. Minor one. The 'last post' for each forum on the index page also shows posts from private forums I don't have access to.
I wouldn't exactly call that a problem. I mean, would you deny the benefits of being able to see such interesting topic titles as "Instances of rape among oranges"?

Exemplary work as always, lads. Although I really can't put my finger on exactly what they are, the small changes here and there really make the whole place a lot smoother and user-friendly. :yes:
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Tyrian on November 19, 2006, 11:37:16 am
I missed the takedown notice for this weekend...Suffice to say I got a BIG shock when tried to log on.  My first thought was something along the lines of "OH GOD, HLP IS DEAD!!!" 

I look forward to checking out the site on its new server.  It really does seem like the whole thing went off without a hitch.  'Grats Fury.   :D
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Mongoose on November 19, 2006, 12:31:18 pm
Things are looking smooth on this end.  Oh, and thanks for putting a link to the IP address on the temp page; it's easier than copy/pasting the address every time. :p
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Admiral Edivad on November 19, 2006, 01:10:22 pm
another problem: some of the links beginning with http://www.hard-light.net..... can't be opened. I tried to substitute "hard-light.net" with "64.92.160.252", but worked only in one or two occasions.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Fury on November 19, 2006, 01:47:27 pm
Just wait until hard-light.net points to the new server.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Taristin on November 19, 2006, 01:47:41 pm
Like now.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Admiral Edivad on November 19, 2006, 01:50:38 pm
ok, problem solved. good work!
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: vyper on November 19, 2006, 04:02:43 pm
After login, it still redirects to the I.P.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Sandwich on November 19, 2006, 04:09:39 pm
Yeah, we were leaving the forums configured to point to the IP for a bit until the DNS propagated sufficiently, which I think it has. I've switched it back over now.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Turey on November 19, 2006, 06:16:25 pm
The only problem I see is the html in Sandwich's user title, but that may be on purpose/not related to server move.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Sandwich on November 19, 2006, 06:38:08 pm
Yeah, I need to fix that; it's not related to the move though.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Sandwich on November 19, 2006, 07:00:23 pm
Yeah, we were leaving the forums configured to point to the IP for a bit until the DNS propagated sufficiently, which I think it has. I've switched it back over now.

I've heard from some people that the DNS hasn't propagated where they are yet, so I've switched the forums back to using the IP for now.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Goober5000 on November 19, 2006, 09:01:28 pm
That just causes more problems. :p I'm logged in at hard-light but all the links use the IP, so I get logged out if I click them.  Also, the QUOTE button doesn't seem to work.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Turey on November 19, 2006, 09:15:40 pm
That just causes more problems. :p I'm logged in at hard-light but all the links use the IP, so I get logged out if I click them.  Also, the QUOTE button doesn't seem to work.
works for me.^
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Setekh on November 19, 2006, 10:04:10 pm
That just causes more problems. :p I'm logged in at hard-light but all the links use the IP, so I get logged out if I click them.  Also, the QUOTE button doesn't seem to work.

Also works for me. ;) Cheers Fury.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Fury on November 20, 2006, 01:30:05 am
That just causes more problems. :p I'm logged in at hard-light but all the links use the IP, so I get logged out if I click them.
Just bear with it another 12 hours or so.

Also, the QUOTE button doesn't seem to work.
Quite likely browser cache/cookie issue. :p
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Inquisitor on November 20, 2006, 09:06:29 am
DNS has propogated for me.

I'd post instructions for how to edit a hosts file and go ahead and flip it to the domain.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Sandwich on November 20, 2006, 09:22:38 am
I'd post instructions for how to edit a hosts file

Go right ahead. :D
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Fury on November 20, 2006, 10:04:12 am
Only 3 hours to go before I change everything to use hard-light.net instead of IP anyway.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Setekh on November 20, 2006, 01:21:20 pm
Seems to have transitioned smoothly over here.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Goober5000 on November 20, 2006, 10:00:52 pm
Okay, links and quotes are working again. :yes:
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: asyikarea51 on November 21, 2006, 03:47:45 am
For some odd reason when I try to access the site via the hard-light.net name, I keep getting timeouts.

Edited my hosts file as a temporary measure to directly access the IP. Still getting (very) slow load times, but at least I can connect.

edit: shoot, it still don't work. I have to manually change the address to reflect the IP in the Address space...

edit2: Posting stuff also results in bad timeouts...
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Fury on November 21, 2006, 03:50:25 am
Probably DNS issue, old IP is cached somewhere between your browser and the server. Some software firewalls have DNS caching features for example, or it could be that updated DNS simply has not reached your ISP yet.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Gortef on November 21, 2006, 04:45:28 am
What HLP moved?

Hah, I picked up a great weekend to fiddle my new PC into a working state :D
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Skippy on November 21, 2006, 06:54:43 am
On Windows, Start, Execute... , type
Code: [Select]
ipconfig /flushdns

This will clear your local DNS cache
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Fury on November 25, 2006, 09:05:45 am
We need to test automatic backup of HLP MySQL databases. When a database is being backed up, it is locked to prevent writes. All but forums database is done in seconds, but forums may need up to 15 minutes to complete. When forums database is locked, forums won't load. We apologize for inconvenience.

The reason why we need to test backups, is to make sure that current MySQL setup is able to properly export as large tables as 700MB without problems and tweak settings if needed.
Title: Re: Expect downtime during the coming weekend
Post by: Fury on November 25, 2006, 11:03:03 am
Backing up large databases still doesn't go smoothly, meaning further tweaking of MySQL settings is necessary. We'll retry backup test at later time.