[phreak]

it has to be a mission flag since command lines may not match if you are playing a multiplayer game.  granted it shouldn't be too hard to get around it, but it would be much easier to have the missions designed with a certain AI in mind.

[Cetanu]

@Goober
I don't think that using -options in the launcher is the right way to solve this - things like such fundamental AI behaviour and no-beam-pierce (like CP already said) shouldn't be something decided by the player since it unbalances missions radically, compared to options that only change the visual stuff
If it's left to the mission designer, flags in Fred2 should handle this quite well - similar to lets say the different tables used for Dogfight missions right now

edited: fully agree with PhReAk here... yeah!

@Inquisitor
I just roar too sometimes, mostly when someone jumps on my toes... I hope no one takes that personally as well
Cheers! From Vet to Vet, hehe

[Kosh]

I was thinking, why not hard code something like the following into the AI:

If (shiphitpoints <= a certain amount)
then do not use Trebuchets


Is it a reasonable idea?

[Goober5000]

Ugh.  No.

Hardcoding anything is a bad idea.

[Tepa]

since we moved talk from pegasus stealth's to missiles could mention harpoons home like **** atleast when player fires em they just go tro AI's specially  againts shivan and vasudan crafts while AIs got em again lethal.

[Cetanu]

Originally posted by Cetanu
Missiles either work are are completely useless - while AI kills me with 2 Harps almost every time, I waste 8 on one Seraphis and hopefully 2 of them do some damage (my missiles hit in that case - I don't count all the evaded)

is already mentioned on my list on page 1

[CP5670]

come to think of it, I have noticed that a little too. Did you guys change the homing system?

[tom]

Last days I tested some multi missions and my conclusions do not differ much from those who already posted here.

In general the gameplay isn't the same as in V FS2, however I wouldn't describe all the strange events as bugs or bad improvements.

As mentioned above, some of them cause different gameplay and have incredible influence on some missions.

- First expierence (in "Breaking the Seal", a mission by Cet) was a slight touch by a Deimos to my Ares at mission start. Result: hull damage 100%. And I thought Ares isn't made of paper.

- Often a lot of secondaries are necessary to kill one hostile fighter. For instance 10 Trebs for a Basilisk (all of them direct hits), an entire bank of Harpoons for a Mara (most of them hit).

- I also noticed AI are more dangerous than in V FS2. This and the "Treb feature" (or better a feature changed to a bug) have bad influence on game balance.

I guess many new improvements are tested in singleplayer missions, but they have great effect in multiplyer missions. Some missions are not lost, they are LOST. Imagine you are in a multi mission and don't have best connection, in some cases you would give up to play that mission anymore.

[Goober5000]

Okay, that's enough complaining.  We know what the problem is, thanks to Phreak, and we know how to go about fixing it.  We'll investigate this ourselves and post an update announcement when we decide what to do.  Until this gets resolved, any multi threads that develop a hostile tone will be locked.