[Woolie Wool]

The E sent it to me. The version used in Wings will have some minor alterations like fighterbay paths and possibly nuclear missile silos mounted on the hull.

[Sab0o]

okay)

[Spoon]

'this thing' was made for wod2 by Sab0o.
I do not recall anyone asking me or Sab0o about permission passing this colony around. 

[Woolie Wool]

You do realize that it's in WiH2 as well, right?

And I know who made it, The E told me who made it and I made a comment in the table as a reminder for myself.

[Spoon]

You do realize that giving BP permission does not mean EVERYONE gets to use it? What the hell?

[Woolie Wool]

Well how was I supposed to know that? Here's what happened:

1. I was talking about how it would be really cool and all to have an O'Neill Island Three in Wings.
2. The_E shows a picture of a Kentauroi flying past one.
3. I ask if I could have the model.
4. He sends it to me.

Up until now as far as I knew it was made for BP.

[The E]

I am very sorry if I broke some confidence there. I shared this model because I figured that a mod that is very deep in WIP status and not anywhere close to release would be a safe place to spread it to; In addition, I trust Woolie to not just release it to the public for the hell of it.

It all came about because he told me he really wanted an O'Neill station in FSO; and seeing how I had that exact model on my HDD, I thought sharing it would be a good thing.

[Spoon]

I would have appreciated it if you had asked before sharing, E.
Anyway, spoke to WW on IRC for a bit and its been resolved, he wasn't aware so I don't blame him.

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[Deadly in a Shadow]

Stuff from from the Project Outreach dump.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Those are fantastic skyboxes.

[Sushi]

It just seems so odd to me to have a skybox with things that are relatively close. The staticness that shouldn't be there completely destroys the illusion for me (although they do work great for still screenshots).

[Mort]

If only there could be reflections on the water

[MatthTheGeek]

If only the water could MOVE to begin with...

[Fury]

It could if you make animated textures for it.

[Aardwolf]

is it me? I seem to prefer the old diomedes! there was something about it like that spherical part which I liked very much.

Ah, so it's not just me then.

I'm guessing we'll get used to it.

When I first saw the original Diomedes I didn't like it because of the round part... but somehow I like the remake less than the original, because of the missing round part. Weird.

[Dragon]

It could if you make animated textures for it.

ShadowGorrath made one, and I may still have it. I don't have anything to put in on though, a big, flat plane isn't as easy to come by as it would seem.

[Droid803]

Oh Deadly, that ship in the last few screenshots...
I think it was made for some movie thing, and it has a distorted UVmap.

To anyone thinking of using it in an actual mod release, don't. I forgot to purge it from the PO dump, but hopefully since I put the caveat of "USE NOTHING IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THE ORIGINAL AUTHOR", I guess I'm ok.

[Dragon]

Actually, it doesn't look too bad, it's not bugged nor anything. I don't know who made that thing, but it look pretty good even up-close, and it has a very good layout.

[Droid803]

You have no idea what you're talking about, Dragon. You're blind if you don't see what's wrong with it.
There are bits of it that aren't UVmapped at all and just tile its main texture, which is a UVMap texture, complete with the black areas.
There's also a massive stretched thing across the side, you can see it in all the screenshots except the last, right above the middle light bar.

IIRC, the file that it came with said that nobody may use it for anything (not even me so I donno why I did that). So don't use it. This is my final warning.

If I see it again anywhere I will probably have an aneurysm.

[Herra Tohtori]

When I get back home I shall see what I can do with getting animated water working. Normal mapped water is a cakewalk and no problem at all, I'm in fact sitting on 30 frames @ 1024^2 tileable water animation (height maps + normal maps, probably pretty easy to craft diffuse and shine maps for them, just time-consuming). This animation was the result of my successful attempt to improve the water in IL-2 Sturmovik (which could only use 15 frames @ 256^2).

It'll work as soon as I get the thing set up, EFF's and what not, but it would be a lot better if someone made a shader that can actually bump the surface* instead of just using a normal map...


*as in, visually displace the model surface in the direction of surface normal... not sure if viable.