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Offline -Norbert-

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Re: Thinking outside the box
That depends on how conductive the hull material is, and how much isolation they fit below the armor plates I guess.

 

Offline Destiny

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Re: Thinking outside the box
Seeing how the EMP Adv. has the ability to mess up all and any ship's turrets PLUS agonizing everyone flying a fighter/bomber, I'd say it's a bit deeper-than-superficial. The techroom description does say "This advanced version of the standard EM Pulse missile disrupts subsystems at a deeper circuitry level, resulting in a longer-lasting effect.".

Of course, I've never been hit by an EMP while flying a capship in FRED so I've no idea how it might turn out. If the capship also experiences the same thing fighters/bombers do when they're hit (except for the shockwave)...canon?!

 
Re: Thinking outside the box
I highly doubt there is, but have there ever been any hard figures on the Marine complement on, say a Diemos? Unless it makes up one fifth of the crew or some crazily huge number like that, I'm sure a boarding operation by, say, a thousand marines in Power Armor (which, IIRC, is BP canon) would be able to clean house without an inordinate amount of trouble. After all, we've seen larger ships boarded in FS multiple times, once even in BP.  Surely they must have some method that works for them.

Not that you wouldn't want to soften up the crew or simply get them to surrender first, of course. That would be ideal. Just a thought really.

 

Offline Destiny

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Re: Thinking outside the box
BP keeps mentioning this one botched up boarding, what is it really?

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: Thinking outside the box
The Kubara boarding? Nothing that complicated. You can sort of tell what happened between the Corsair tech description and some chatter in The Plunder.

 

Offline Luis Dias

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Re: Thinking outside the box
Well, from BP canon, I think the whole idea of capturing capital ships in order to get an advantage towards the opponent has been thoroughfully debunked. That ship has sailed.

Well at least, if I were the one being commanded to capture a second ship, I'd just give them the finger.

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

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Re: Thinking outside the box
Remember that the UEF did successfully capture a Deimos corvette and an Aeolus cruiser in Pawns on a Board of Bone.
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Offline Mars

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Re: Thinking outside the box
BP keeps mentioning this one botched up boarding, what is it really?

The Tevs stuck a pocket nuke in the Corsair.

 

Offline -Norbert-

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Re: Thinking outside the box
Remember that the UEF did successfully capture a Deimos corvette and an Aeolus cruiser in Pawns on a Board of Bone.
We don't know that for sure. We just completely disarm and disable them, for the sake of the trap. For all we know they might have been recovered by a contingency plan of Steele, spirited away by the Gef or could even still be floating out there dead in space.

Though it is likely that they were towed to a UEF station were they could be dealt with, however that's going to be done.

 

Offline Snail

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Re: Thinking outside the box
Or maybe they blew them up when they were no longer needed.

 

Offline Mars

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Re: Thinking outside the box
Or maybe they blew them up when they were no longer needed.

The UEF has neither the ethical ability nor desire to blow up potential fleet assets with crew still onboard.

The GTVA wouldn't want to blow up their personnel and warships if they could help it.

Why would anyone blow them up?

 

Offline -Norbert-

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Re: Thinking outside the box
There is one reason I could think of. "We can't take them over, so we better make sure the enemy can't get them back either". Though I agree that it's rather unlikely.
But maybe the Gef blew them up, to make sure the UEF doesn't get them. Their swarm bombs certainly are capable of quite a lot of damage, especially since those two ships have not a single working gun to defend themselfs.

 

Offline Destiny

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Re: Thinking outside the box
I'm sure with an Aeolus and a Deimos working together, they could pool their resources up and fix their comms. Hell, they're in an asteroid belt (I think...), lots 'o resources. The station usually doesn't die, so...well, I don't know.

But with the Carthage escaping with news that both ships are still alive, I'm sure they'd been rescued.

 

Offline Snail

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Re: Thinking outside the box
The UEF has neither the ethical ability nor desire to blow up potential fleet assets with crew still onboard.
Can't you read between the lines? The UEF are evil bastards! Calder probably had a Durga or two to spare.

 

Offline Destiny

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Re: Thinking outside the box
The UEF has neither the ethical ability nor desire to blow up potential fleet assets with crew still onboard.
Can't you read between the lines? The UEF are evil bastards! Calder probably had a Durga or two to spare.
You could even call in a Durga wing or two from the Eris or Toutatis in that Agincourt escort mission IIRC.

 

Offline -Norbert-

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Re: Thinking outside the box
Hell, they're in an asteroid belt (I think...), lots 'o resources. The station usually doesn't die, so...well, I don't know.
Now the station might help, if they can capture them, but forget about the asteroids' ressources. I can't imagine an Aeolus or a Deimos being equiped with refinaries to process whatever you can get out of asteroids. That is, if they could juri-rig mining equipment in the first place, not to mention that mining takes time... time you usually don't get square in the middle of enemy terretory, with the enemy knowing were you are.

 

Offline Destiny

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Re: Thinking outside the box
Well the UEF prioritized getting the Carthage blown up, sending...so many...ships after it...just for the Imperieuse to come. The Deimos and Aeolus would've blown up everything in the belt if the Carthage wasn't the mission...the Wargods wouldn't be at the belt...I suppose the station can be easily captured, having their marines just all float out of the airlocks and use their suit thrusters to...boost them over to the station's airlocks blow it apart with pocket nukes and stuff. No one's really explored into the armories of any GTVA ship...

...once the station is captured...well, that's for that. Making a long-range SOS to Steele or something, perhaps.

 

Offline -Norbert-

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Re: Thinking outside the box
You forget something. The Bretonia stations are armed. While the five light turrets are too few and weak to defend against even a single cruiser (or a single fighter for that matter), they are more than enough to shoot down marines in space suits, escape pods or shuttles, unless they have a few of those heavily armed suits on board that were used in the original release of AoA or in Vassago's Dirge. Even then it's risky.

 

Offline crizza

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Re: Thinking outside the box
I would love to see the GEFs deploying cruisers or corvettes^^

 
Re: Thinking outside the box
Well, they did deploy one big-ass Argo at some point. I wouldn't finf it that suprising if they had recieved/captured/else a cruiser or two.