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Offline DaBrain

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Re: Spacesims as good as Freespace 2 - Nexus Jupiter Incident etc
Space sims:

Freespace - Imho simply the best, both of them

Wing Commander - All of them AWESOME, except for Arena of course, which is simply an Asteroids clone, play Secret OPs, if you didn't do that
already

Starlancer - Well, the story was a bit cheap (cliché russians are evil and want to take over the universe), but great in all other aspects

I-War 2 - Great story, nice graphics, but DAMN, it's hard.

Freelancer - I don't mind the mouse control very much, cause it works very well. It's a great game. Nice story and graphics and surprisingly long (in a time you can finish new games in one day...)
Except for the story missions, there isn't very much interesting stuff to do after a few days of playing it. Ship wrecks and of easter eggs didn't keep me busy for long. Freelancer is clearly one of the best games in the genre, but lacks content. Some more non-story missions would have made the game even better.

Darkstar One - I'm currenly playing it. Simply put: It's a Freelancer clone. While it doesn't feel quite as polished as Freelancer, it also has a few more features, plus it has better graphics. Sidequests and more generic missions fix one of the weak points Freelancer has.
It's a good game, but really not outstanding. I bought it for 10€ and that was a really good buy.

X³ - Still nice graphics. The feeling of beeing in space is really great. It also has an interesting story, but can't deliver it very well...
The trading part is very complex and takes a lot of time. The interface is a bit confusing too. Well, if you like complex games, X3 is a good choice.
The space action part is very weak though. It's neither easy, nor fun to fly a fighter in battle imho.



Space RTS:

Homeworld - Both parts are great. HW2 is imho the best space RTS out there. The gameplay is great and I love the art style. Watch out for HW: Cataclysm. It's like HW1.5.  And the storyline simply rocks. It's even more immersive than HW2.

Haegemonia - Wow... I didn't pay much for it. I could have gotten a burger for the money. ;) It's very well balanced, and there is a lot of tension during the campaign. The story is quite nice and the graphics are still amzing, so is the music.
Just watching the spectacular space battles is fun enough. ;)

Sins of a Solar Empire - Sweet! It's hard to explain... I didn't have much trouble finding my way into it. Even though you can do a lot, it's all pretty simple. Great music and graphics complete the game. And you can build gigantic fleets. Seriously, your fleet can be really really huge, which results in pretty cool battles. Plus there is an active modding scene of SotSE.
I have only two complains:
1. There is no single player campaign (unless you count the tutorial). Even though the game would be perfect for it, it's either multiplayer or you fight the CPU. This hurts even more, cause the story in the intro sounds interesting...
2. It simply takes too long. Invading systems puts you at the disadvantage, so you can't do it until you're clearly stronger than your opponent.
So while you try to build more ships to beat him, he probably does the same. Sometimes there isn't much fighting until two big armadas crash into each other.
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Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: Spacesims as good as Freespace 2 - Nexus Jupiter Incident etc
EV: Nova, great story, fun to play, easy to learn, but a bit more difficult to master. If you do play it I highly recommend you get the Ship Variants plugin so the NPCs don't feel as broken as they sometimes do. :P Only real downside is no music for the game, but that gives you some freedom to select your own via your player of choice.

Galactic Civilizations 2, the strong, handsome grandson of the MOO series, and its expansions, are definitely worth a look if that's your sort of thing.

I personally recommend skipping HW2 unless it's for mods or multi.
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Offline Frosty

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Re: Spacesims as good as Freespace 2 - Nexus Jupiter Incident etc
The best:

Homeworld: 1 and Cataclysm- they both have exellent gameplay and storylines, HW2 has great gameplay but the story leave alot to be desired.

Starlancer: Fun playthrough, a little weak on the story


 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Spacesims as good as Freespace 2 - Nexus Jupiter Incident etc
Excellent renders though. I less than three digital anvils work across the board.
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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Offline Mefustae

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Re: Spacesims as good as Freespace 2 - Nexus Jupiter Incident etc
Starlancer: Fun playthrough, a little weak on the story
Weak on the story? It has optional news reports between every mission to present the wider picture of the war. It has a great backstory, and the overarching war has some emotional weight to it. You really feel part of a war effort, contributing to greater strategies on a theatre-level, even if it's a case of god syndrome where you have to do everything. If anything it's weak on gameplay, the story is one of the best elements.

In other words, you fail.

 

Offline TrashMan

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Re: Spacesims as good as Freespace 2 - Nexus Jupiter Incident etc
you confuse atmosphere with story.

Yes, it had great atmosphere. But a great story?

Let's see, the Coaliation had every possible advantage you can think off, and yet you, a new unproven pilot, take place (or stumble into) EVERY SINGLE VITAL MISSION in history. I can get it with one or two, but everything?

It's worse than Scooby Doo and the gang constantly running into spooky houses and ghosts- no matter where they go.
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Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Spacesims as good as Freespace 2 - Nexus Jupiter Incident etc

Let's see, the Coaliation had every possible advantage you can think off, and yet you, a new unproven pilot, take place (or stumble into) EVERY SINGLE VITAL MISSION in history. I can get it with one or two, but everything?



Familiar much *cough alpha one cough* ?

Yeah i know, Alpha one was ordered to do it all and the starlancer guy just got attacked, but it's fair to say the enemy would go for the weakest point in the line, (noob squad)  plus the Pirates and buccaneers were doing all the good stuff behind enemy lines. :lol:
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
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Offline JGZinv

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Re: Spacesims as good as Freespace 2 - Nexus Jupiter Incident etc
Tachyon the Fringe + 1 vote

We loved it, spent years in it online despite it's many many many flaws.
The developers were not given the chance to do the game justice, but that's a long story.
That's why there's FringeSpace to recreate and update the Tach universe.

For those that haven't had a chance to play, FringeSpace will be hosting a Tachyon
tournament at the end of October. We're planning on getting as many folks in as possible.
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Offline TrashMan

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Re: Spacesims as good as Freespace 2 - Nexus Jupiter Incident etc

Let's see, the Coaliation had every possible advantage you can think off, and yet you, a new unproven pilot, take place (or stumble into) EVERY SINGLE VITAL MISSION in history. I can get it with one or two, but everything?



Familiar much *cough alpha one cough* ?

Yeah i know, Alpha one was ordered to do it all and the starlancer guy just got attacked, but it's fair to say the enemy would go for the weakest point in the line, (noob squad)  plus the Pirates and buccaneers were doing all the good stuff behind enemy lines. :lol:

You don't do every critical mission in the universe in FS2. A lot of things are done behind the scenes - you hear of others doing it.
Starlancer is just terrible in that regard.

The Coalition has far more ships - you take out a whole fleet of theirs
They have a super-secret carrier - you destroy it
They have jump-gate technology - you capture it
They have a massive supply depot - you destroy it
They have a elite carrier - you take it out along with it's elite fighters
They have a strategic evil mastermind - you capture him
They have a secret Ion Cannon weapon - you take it out
etc...

With all of these advantages the Coalition could have jsut steamrolled over the Alliance...but no, they just wait politely as you take turns removing one advantage at a time. Yes, I'd call that a friggin bad story.
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Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Spacesims as good as Freespace 2 - Nexus Jupiter Incident etc
At the start of the game they took out every major allied inner planet base and two national fleets. Doesn't it make sense that all our good **** would be in those bases? :p
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

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That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
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Offline TrashMan

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Re: Spacesims as good as Freespace 2 - Nexus Jupiter Incident etc
How many revolutionary, ground breaking secret projects that are nearing completion, all withing a span of a week or two, does one have?

Ye gods man. You'd have a easier time defending Little Red Riding hood trough the scientific scrutiny than this.
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Re: Spacesims as good as Freespace 2 - Nexus Jupiter Incident etc
I found Starlancer to be good but I felt the story to be just a bit too cheesy for my liking.

 

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Re: Spacesims as good as Freespace 2 - Nexus Jupiter Incident etc
they're not all within a week, check the comp between missions, also each launch shows the date :p

PS, lighten up Freelancers story is worse by extension.
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
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Offline redsniper

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Re: Spacesims as good as Freespace 2 - Nexus Jupiter Incident etc
This thread makes me want to play Starlancer...
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Offline Vidmaster

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Re: Spacesims as good as Freespace 2 - Nexus Jupiter Incident etc
*cough alpha one cough* ?

well, Alpha 1 isn't in all vital battles no, neither in FS1 nor FS2 (although the reason for that were that PCs were not able to handle the required stuff.). Battle of Deneb, the major offensive against the NTF half-way through the game, the original plan to stop the Sathanas, ...

Oh, I disliked Starlancer. Gameplay is just to weak, especially those super-rapid fire weapons.
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Offline Frosty

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Re: Spacesims as good as Freespace 2 - Nexus Jupiter Incident etc
Starlancer: Fun playthrough, a little weak on the story
Weak on the story? It has optional news reports between every mission to present the wider picture of the war. It has a great backstory, and the overarching war has some emotional weight to it. You really feel part of a war effort, contributing to greater strategies on a theatre-level, even if it's a case of god syndrome where you have to do everything. If anything it's weak on gameplay, the story is one of the best elements.

In other words, you fail.

Really?...... I guess some people just like rehashed versions of WW2 in their games.

 

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Re: Spacesims as good as Freespace 2 - Nexus Jupiter Incident etc
they're not all within a week, check the comp between missions, also each launch shows the date :p

PS, lighten up Freelancers story is worse by extension.

Bah. Almost every mission in Starlancer is "OMG! They have a secret superweapon/tech that we just stumbled upon. You must destroy/capture it."
Repeat ad nauseum.

Freelancers story is ....acceptable...delivery is superb but the Nomads suck. Up until the moment I ran into them the story was great. But the body-snatching cliche was just too much.
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Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Spacesims as good as Freespace 2 - Nexus Jupiter Incident etc
Starlancer is easygoing fun. FreeSpace is a space opera. Wing Commander (also by Chris Roberts) is the stopgap inbetween.
 
 What would Starlancer be without the imposing weapons of doom? (Dark Reign platform, Czar and stealth is all i can think of at the moment) the Alliance had blindfire and nova cannons i'd prefer those to be honest.
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
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Offline JGZinv

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Re: Spacesims as good as Freespace 2 - Nexus Jupiter Incident etc
Since everyone is rehashing what they already said....
and few seem to know about Tach...

Here's a "banner" I'll be using for the tournament, which I'll post about tonight or tomorrow.
If it's too big I'll make it a link. Most of the pics on the sides are captures from in game.

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Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Spacesims as good as Freespace 2 - Nexus Jupiter Incident etc
Tournament?

Squeeee, i need to dig out my copy and play it again.
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
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