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Offline NGTM-1R

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No I'm pretty sure that the Dynasty Warriors games actually are repetitive.

And they're doing their job by pointing that out.

And you're crapping on them for it when it's not a value judgement.
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Offline Lorric

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No I'm pretty sure that the Dynasty Warriors games actually are repetitive.

And they're doing their job by pointing that out.

And you're crapping on them for it when it's not a value judgement.

No, no. Reviewers use this word as a big criticism of all sorts of games now. It used to be pretty much a Dynasty Warriors thing, but it's spread now to other games. Of course it's repetitive. And of course a reviewer has a duty to tell you this. But that doesn't mean it's automatically bad because of that. If you like the gameplay, it's a non-issue. Even if you do put a game down due to repetition, you'll just play something else to freshen things up and then come back later if you like that repetitive game. Reviewers seem to review games like they're the only game in existence on the planet.

If a game half-asses a bunch of genres and does none of them well, but not flat out badly either, it'll get praised as "unique" and "original" and "innovative". No, if I want to play 5 different genres, I'll buy 5 different games that each specialise in those genres.

 

Offline Mikes

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Truth be told... repetition can be a problem. It is a huge, gigantic problem in almost every MMO. So gigantic that the kind of repetition usually found in non MMO games would not even register on the same scale. Strangely those MMOs still get good reviews...


 

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Played this a little on a friend's PC.  I had to leave before getting to the strike suit, but I think I will be picking this up soon!
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Offline Black_Yoshi1230

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I have to say, having played like two space flight sims, and two Mech combat sims as far as my life is concerned...

... I just have to say...



... I'm a space core astronaut and I approve this game. Minus the part where I get pissed off by being shot a lot flying a bomber (because I don't know if there is a "target what's beating me up" button). And I wish there were more... dynamic foes to blow up.

P.S. Apollos in a non-Freespace setting? What sort of magic is this?
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Offline Mikes

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... I'm a space core astronaut and I approve this game. Minus the part where I get pissed off by being shot a lot flying a bomber (because I don't know if there is a "target what's beating me up" button). And I wish there were more... dynamic foes to blow up.

The Bomber is a very durable missile platform. Durable enough to simply shrug off several hits and armed with enough missiles to simply obliterate entire fighter squadrons before they can even open fire at you. Furthermore, against Capital ships, it is hands down the most powerful craft in the game. Frankly... I found the Bomber just as, if not more powerful than the Strike Suit, if used correctly. The Strike Suit is certainly more versatile and more nimble... but as far as Firepower goes, not a contest, Bomber all the way.

I.e.: If you get chewed up by fighters in the Bomber you re really doing it wrong :)
I found that unless you fly head first into an enemy squadron or fighter vs fighter melee.... your wingmates are quite capable of keeping most of the enemy fighters busy and off your tail - and if there is an enemy squadron in your way simply hold down the fire button, spew fire and forget missiles in their general direction and watch the explosions.

You can pretty much do the first bomber mission without ever having to "dogfight" at all, if only you watch out a bit what you fly into. Even got the gold medal on first try, due to how easy the Bomber makes it to rack up ridiculous amounts of fighter and capship kills in this mission.
« Last Edit: February 03, 2013, 08:20:24 am by Mikes »

 

Offline Black_Yoshi1230

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... if there is an enemy squadron in your way simply hold down the fire button, spew fire and forget missiles in their general direction and watch the explosions.


Yeah, I went three Seeker/one Titan, I'm finally f___ing proud to at least get the Shield upgrade.

On the other hand... Flux Missiles are awesome. Nothing more satisfying than alpha volleying corvettes and capship turrets to death.
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Offline RVR72G

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Might be too late for the party for few days, but from what I've heard the modding tool has been released days ago. Plus a new Strike Suit (Raptor) as DLC, and Marauder Strike Suit for KS pledgers.

 

Offline Spoon

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http://youtu.be/mk4fLGiLASM
Notice the freespace 2 box in the back

Also, that gameplay footage looks like its played with a controller. I thought the game was challenging enough on mouse&kb. I can't imagine it even being completable on a controller. ugh. Also, as much as I enjoyed the game, I'm not going to spend 2 euro on a dlc that adds nothing but one extra fighter. Not exactly great value for money for a single player game.
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Offline Fury

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So I never got past the first mission where you get the Strike Suit, I should reinstall and finish the game really. But I noticed that there is now a sequel of sorts. Strike Suit Infinity and it's 50% off for owners of the Zero in Steam.

 

Offline Mikes

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So I never got past the first mission where you get the Strike Suit, I should reinstall and finish the game really. But I noticed that there is now a sequel of sorts. Strike Suit Infinity and it's 50% off for owners of the Zero in Steam.

Not a sequel really, but more like "Arena Mode" without story, but with different Strikesuits and the ability to choose reinforcements (i.e. fighters, bombers, cruisers, carriers etc.) to set up hilariously large battles later on heh.

 

Offline Lorric

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Strike Suit Infinity is currently 50% off on Steam if anyone's interested. 41hrs left. I just chanced on that and thought I'd share. So if you have Zero and get 50% off as the comment above says, does that mean you could get 75% off right now?

EDIT: There's a Strike Suit bundle thing at 50% off as well on the same timer.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2013, 06:58:29 pm by Lorric »

 

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Thanks for the heads-up; I had been waiting for this to go on sale!!  I did not get the whole bundle, but I did pick up SSZ and Strike Suit Infinity, both half off.
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Offline Lorric

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Thanks for the heads-up; I had been waiting for this to go on sale!!  I did not get the whole bundle, but I did pick up SSZ and Strike Suit Infinity, both half off.

Hmmm, I didn't think SSZ was also on half price.

You're welcome, I thought someone might like to know.

 

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so what is infinity exactly?  sounded something like an arena mode with endless enemies.  i don't want to pay for that if so.
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Offline Spoon

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so what is infinity exactly?  sounded something like an arena mode with endless enemies.  i don't want to pay for that if so.
It's fun.
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Offline NGTM-1R

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It's fun.

Probably, but is it better designed than Zero?
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Offline Lorric

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so what is infinity exactly?  sounded something like an arena mode with endless enemies.  i don't want to pay for that if so.

It looks like it's more like an old school style game with levels to beat. Old school because it's simply about whether you've got what it takes to win the levels rather than any story or anything. So it will live or die on it's gameplay. You seem to be able to earn points to spend on bringing allied reinforcements with you.

 

Offline Spoon

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It's fun.

Probably, but is it better designed than Zero?
That's kind of a broad question. What exactly did you think was poorly designed about Zero?
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