[aldo_14]

after reading the first page of this thread finally, Kaz are you serious?

the FIFA rankings mean about nothing, take a look at this

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/jonah_freedman/06/05/cup.rankings/index.html

you'll notice that this is made by an American and was posted before Team USA bent over and took it in the ass yesterday. Team USA ranked #11, not even on the first page, Italy and Czech both top 10

He's full of **** if he thinks Mexico are better than Spain.

(wish they were; I got them in the office sweepstakes)

[Ghostavo]

Is Portugal that overrated in you people's minds? 

16th?

[aldo_14]

Is Portugal that overrated in you people's minds? 

16th?

To be honest, i think that list is rather a load of old tosh.

[Flipside]

Theres one list that counts, and that's the one after the contest. Anything else is guesswork

[Colonol Dekker]

Has anyone lid any cash out at a turf accountants yet?

[BlackDove]

screw you!

we come out flat in one game and you start making jackass comments like that?

go jump off a bridge


To Advance the following has to happen

Italy Beat Ghana (ghana could beat italy, but it would still be teh same)
Czech beat Italy and Ghana
USA Beat Italy and Ghana
that would make it

Czech 3-0-0, USA 2-1-0, Italy 1-0-0, Ghana 0-0-0  (WLD)

My statements aren't baseless.

Your team SUCKS. Its track record only proves it. None of us held our breath when you took the 3-0 dive.

Learn to live with being stuck with the losing team. You're not going places any time soon.

[Shade]

Just go back and look at what we posted about the English squad after the Paraguay game... and they won. Then think about how badly we'd have roasted them had they lost by 3... hell, I think the fires would still be burning if that had happened It's just the way we talk Football in Europe, there's no sugar coating, and that's how we like it. They play badly? They get lashed, and it really has nothing to do with what team it is.

[Colonol Dekker]

Oh yeah you guys tried hard alright...

[Kazan]

we're giving them a thorough roasting on our own forums - but an informed roasting and not just "Ha ha you guys lost, but no suprise because YOU SUCK"

Landycakes didn't bring his testicles to the pitch, DMB shouldn't have been on the pitch and Gooch needs to not get carded in the 5th farking minute

and all the guys need to get in the game and connect their passes

if we keep playing like that WE WILL come in last.

[Night Hammer]

if we keep playing like that WE WILL come in last.

Captain Obvious strikes again

[Colonol Dekker]

Captain Obvious strikes again

http://www.faceparty.com/CAPTAINOBVIOUS

My 21 year old little bro 

[Kazan]

go to hell, if you cannot make any constructive posts and just wish to flame on then get your own thread

[Flipside]

I'm just waiting till we go out on penalties in the Quarters as usual, then I won't have to put up with it any more and we can go back to flaming each other about ordinary things like Evolution

[Night Hammer]

go to hell, if you cannot make any constructive posts and just wish to flame on then get your own thread

why are you so hostile Kaz, admit it, were not that good, this isnt basketball, this isnt track and field
we dont dominate the sport, for you to even suggest we have a shot at beating brazil is nuts and for you to say what i quoted you might as well say 'if we dont breath well die' .....umm duh



and Dekker do you play eve?

[Kazan]

i'm hostile? let's see.. why would Kazan be hostile - oh right, other people started with the mindless bashing and then expect kazan not to get pissed about people mindlessly bashing his national team

[aldo_14]

we're giving them a thorough roasting on our own forums - but an informed roasting and not just "Ha ha you guys lost, but no suprise because YOU SUCK"

I believe I did point out the flaws in the US in both the first and 4th pages before the match or even tournament, though.  If anything, living in a football obsessed country and watching the WC as a neutral fan makes you more observant, not less.

Even if 3-0 was somewhat of a surprise, a simple glance at the pre-match odds means a Czech win certainly wasn't.  Sometimes '****' is a fair description; you can have all the organization in the world, but ultimately if the individual players simply aren't as good, you'll struggle.  It's scarcely a shame to be 2nd (well, 4th as looks likely) best behind the likes of Toni, Essien, Appiah, Totti, Nedved, et al.

[Night Hammer]

its not really mindless, there seems to be some basis to it

im not bashing, im being realistic, we dont have a very good team on the world stage, simple as that, 3-0 kinda proves that point. When England or spain or togo or whoever gets trashed by somone Ill do the same **** talking.

[Shade]

Out on penalties on the quarter finals eh? Gotta get there first, which you won't unless they bring their game to an entirely different level than against Paraguay. The potential is there, certainly, but it remains to be seen if Eriksson can figure out how to use it properly, something I'm not entirely confident of.

By the way, S. Korea is beating Togo. 2-1 so far, decent play from both sides at times but last 20 mins have been all Korea. Oh and Togo are a man down after one of their players slaughtered a korean with a free run to the goal and deservedly got his second yellow of the match, so there's little risk of them making any comeback. If you ask me, neither team looks good enough to go much further.

[Edit]

It's scarcely a shame to be 2nd (well, 4th as looks likely) best behind the likes of Toni, Essien, Appiah, Totti, Nedved, et al.

Indeed. It's not a fun group to be in, any team would struggle to advance with that competition, hell even Brazil would have to work for it.

[Colonol Dekker]

Te h USA and football go together like UK And basketball, they're not our strongest points but we still try cos its all we can do.
(not a dig)

and Dekker do you play eve?

Never have mate

[Flipside]

Out on penalties on the quarter finals eh? Gotta get there first, which you won't unless they bring their game to an entirely different level than against Paraguay. The potential is there, certainly, but it remains to be seen if Eriksson can figure out how to use it properly, something I'm not entirely confident of.

Yeah, agreed, Englands been pretty much lukewarm so far, I hope it's because Eriksson is aware that the England Squad tends to burn itself out pretty quickly, we rely far too heavily on getting out goals early, he might also be trying to avoid injuries in the play-offs.

Personally, I don't hold much hope for us, it'd be nice to see us do well, but I'm inclined to agree that unless we get our arses in gear, we aren't going to go far beyond the qualifiers.