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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Cobra on September 23, 2005, 07:21:54 pm
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i was browsing the wikipedia's Freespace section and felt it needed some more info.
right now i'm too proud of myself sop i can't keep this to myself. XD
here. :D (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fledgling_Galactic_Terran-Vasudan_Alliance_Nearly_Destroyed)
[EDIT] and before any of you say anything, the reason i branched out to the 3rd mission after the 2nd was so no one goes 'wtf happened next?' when they read about the 2nd mission. (AND i had to explain the unmarked Orion and unidentified fighters, so, bleh to you.. er... what's the word... meh...)
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That was great, I like reading that kind of stuff :D
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haw haw its about to get deleted.
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because the person that posted the reason it should be deleted thinks that that comes out of the manual, and that i did not say that it deals with Descent Freespace. (HELLO?! the manual makes no mention for this, let alone that there is no model for Silent Threat, and it's posted in the Freespace section, so this guy does not have his facts straight.)
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hmm... i just found something very interesting...
Sounds like someones own personal interpretation of onee of the missions in the "Silent Threat" expansion pack, Delete. (preceding unsigned comment by FireCrack
FireCrack? did you have something to do with this?
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what is this? :wtf:
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if yuo've played Silent Threat, you'd understand. :rolleyes:
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I have played ST many times, but what's the point of this entry? It's not even clear that it's about Freespace and the title makes little sense, sounds like a news headline or something. This should really go in the existing article on FS.
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meh, all my article names turn out to be news heading styled. :nervous:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTVA
now no one can go crazy over this. :D
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That's fine, the original article didnt belong on the wikipedia.
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wtf
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You only wrote the last part of that, right? Since it still doesn't make sense; that stuff at the end has no connection to the GTVA and goes into needless detail on minor mission events. The GTVA wasn't formed until 2345 and ST takes place long before that. What are you trying to do here? :wtf:
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this new government's authority would span more than 30 different solar systems and over 20 billion peoples
Where do you get this from?
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This makes less sense than ST did in the first place....
Sorry Cobra, I think I speak for everyone when I say that this is an embarassment to the FreeSpace Community.
I applaud the initiative but, this definitely rates a :wtf:
The second article is... ok...
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This article has nothing to do with the GTVA, since it is a matter that occured before the formation of the GTVA, when the GTI rebellion occured in accordance with the GTA.
The article is also an abysmal failure at sentence construction, as well as syntax.
What the hell are you trying to do?
Someone delete this please.
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I was thinking when I read this thread that Cobra wasn't the best one for this...Cobra, the Wikipedia is a place to use as a factual reference - not a storyteller's forum.
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No offense, Cobra, but your contribution doesn't fit in at all with the rest of the GTVA article, which is well-written and well-worded. I'd advise you to ditch it, since, as others said, it really has nothing to do with the GTVA.
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Thanks UT.
Good call.
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i only added my silent threat part to the full article.
and GODDAMMIT, WHY IS IT WHEN I TRY TO CONTRIBUTE YOU ALL PUT ME DOWN?! I'M SICK AND TIRED OF IT ALL! :mad: :mad2: :mad: :mad2:
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We're not putting you down because you're trying to contribute; we just don't think that what you've written belongs in the article about the GTVA, and it doesn't seem to fit in with the Wikipedia's general style. Barring a few grammatical errors, it is a good summary of the Silent Threat plot (hell, it even makes it sound interesting, which is an accomplishment in and of itself :p); it just doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Don't think that we're all knocking your work; after seeing that Pathways trailer, I'm really looking forward to playing the finished product. :)
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it was till a Terran-Vasudan alliance, wasn't it? besides, i was told to put it there.
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No, it wasn't. In fact, I remember specifically that the GTA and the PVN were still seperate entitities during Silent Threat, and that the entire thing was a rebellion by the GTA's Intelligence Division - NOT the SOC, which is what the GTVA uses.
Also, as an off-topic note: Having read through the various seperate descriptions of the GTVA's formation, it's struck me that the controlling entity in the GTVA is actually the Vasudans, not the Terrans, as we are generally led to believe. If you read it, it seems that the Vasudans come out of the Great War better than ever, while the Terrans are fractured and only unite when the GTVA is formed.
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The article seems to have the facts straight...its just the title thats wrong.
In Silent Threat, the GTA still existed...more or less. There was a provisional government setup in Delta Serpentis (this is mentioned in the briefings). After the events of Silent Threat, the GTA destabilized and fractured. There were several smaller groups (usually by system) that competed and fought for a while. Only when the Vasudans re-entered the game with Emperor Khonsu at the helm did things get better and eventually the BETAC treaty was signed.
This is all in the tech database of FS2. Read it...alot of valuable history and information on what happened between FS1 and FS2 is there including the events of Silent Threat.
Cobra, I know you mean well...but in a community as small as ours, you've really got to get the facts straight when it comes to referencing cannonical works (i.e. stuff from the game). Its just good form to check things over and be consistent.
If you were writing your own bit of fiction...go hog wild :D
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the old one speaks.. bow to his wisdom ;)
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Originally posted by IceFire
Cobra, I know you mean well...but in a community as small as ours, you've really got to get the facts straight when it comes to referencing cannonical works (i.e. stuff from the game). Its just good form to check things over and be consistent.
That's a reaaaaaally nice way of putting it.
Good you beat me to it, because I was ready to do some "multi-paragraph tough love".
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A lot of FS ship info on the wikipedia is missing...
This looks like a job for - TEH HLP Community!!!! :D
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We have our own wiki to go into depth on such things, thank you.
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Yeah. Get the facts straight cobra.
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Originally posted by Charismatic
Yeah. Get the facts straight cobra.
Thank you so much for contributing. We all know that bashing Cobra because it was what everyone did is the mature way of handling things. :rolleyes:
Dude, cut the crap. If you've got a helpful response that doesn't involve a one-line attack against Cobra, then feel free to post. Help Cobra out, don't slam him. Everyone else here is giving constructive advice, which I sadly say that you are not going along with.
As for the article: I've been always trying to write up an article on the GTI Rebellion and Silent Threat, though I've never really gotten around to it (actually, I did, but when I submitted a multi-paragraph, well-thought-out article, it got eaten in transit by the Wiki). It would be interesting to have an actual definitive reference on the rebellion though, outside of a tiny blurb in the FS2 Tech Room Reconstruction entry.
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Originally posted by Charismatic
Yeah. Get the facts straight cobra.
Thanks for your contribution...
Cobra at least has good intentions in mind. I can't say the same about yourself...
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lol, ever since i left his EVO clan for DarkWing he's had a grudge against me. Charismatic i can ignore. ;)
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If someone can give me some accurate context, I'll put it in the new wiki.
What period of time does this write-up cover?
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Originally posted by IceFire
Thanks for your contribution...
Cobra at least has good intentions in mind. I can't say the same about yourself...
Ooooooooh oooooooh a sacrastic diss from ICEMAN!
That's a first for me :lol:
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:nervous: DW rocks:nervous:
lol, i enjoyed reading those articles Cobra....thanks:D
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Check hte Orion and Hecate entries at wikipeida:D
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
If someone can give me some accurate context, I'll put it in the new wiki.
What period of time does this write-up cover?
It covers the first three missions of Silent Threat. That's about all i can give you, since i did it all from memory.
and what do you mean by "accurate context"?
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That. :p
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well its up now :P
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ohh, i get it. Not. :nervous:
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No. Ever sence you, hunter, and ur other hacker friends ****ed all my sites which took me years to improve, and hacked my emails and IM accounts stealing my emails, and disavowed everyting i had on the net; have i had a 'grudge' agiesnt you. So stfu.
Dw can burn in hell. Long live EVO, in another day, another life.
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read your damn private messages ephili, jesus, calm down
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Take your inter-clan-grudges to PMs.
kthxbye
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Uggh... I know at times I was bad, but I don't think I was ever quite as bad as this. At least I never held a grudge...
*Wonders where he put the "Missions Guild Interview with Adam Pletcher" that happened before ST was released...*
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Am I the only one that thinks the majority of the FS2 community really doesn't care about clans much anymore?
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Originally posted by Charismatic
No. Ever sence you, hunter, and ur other hacker friends ****ed all my sites which took me years to improve, and hacked my emails and IM accounts stealing my emails, and disavowed everyting i had on the net; have i had a 'grudge' agiesnt you. So stfu.
Dw can burn in hell. Long live EVO, in another day, another life.
if you haven't noticed, [DW] outranks EVO in many cases, and EVO sucked anyways. you dragged me into the clan, and you wouldn't let me out anyway. :p
and i never 'hacked' your instant messenger or email accounts. nor the so-called 'sites that took you years (which, IIRC, on a freebie web account, come complete with page managers so you don't have to go through an html editor) to improve. Frankly, you don't even know the first thing about hacking. do you even know what hacking is? it's taking control of someone else's computer and sending trojans and/or viruses to it. the 'hacking' you're talking about is simply logging into an account. not hacking. AND i never 'hacked' (logged in) to any accounts.
case closed, let's get back on-topic.
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
Am I the only one that thinks the majority of the FS2 community really doesn't care about clans much anymore?
You're not alone...
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Originally posted by Cobra
if you haven't noticed, [DW] outranks EVO in many cases, and EVO sucked anyways. you dragged me into the clan, and you wouldn't let me out anyway. :p
and i never 'hacked' your instant messenger or email accounts. nor the so-called 'sites that took you years (which, IIRC, on a freebie web account, come complete with page managers so you don't have to go through an html editor) to improve. Frankly, you don't even know the first thing about hacking. do you even know what hacking is? it's taking control of someone else's computer and sending trojans and/or viruses to it. the 'hacking' you're talking about is simply logging into an account. not hacking. AND i never 'hacked' (logged in) to any accounts.
case closed, let's get back on-topic.
thats a lie :P u did log into his accounts and you did hack his websites. :P
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Mods, shut this ****fit up before it gets out of hand. We don't need another Squadwar forum in here. This is retarded people, the FS community outgrew clans long agao, so stop *****ing.
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i second that. :yes:
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Originally posted by [DW]-Hunter
thats a lie :P u did log into his accounts and you did hack his websites. :P
*sigh*
Listen, I believe Cobra has been an idiot or has been annoying at times. That's all behind now. With the help of the HLP community, he's gotten to be a contributing member to the Freespace community.
Even if he was annoying and/or an idiot at times, I refuse to believe that he would do something as immature as hack someone's site. Cobra may lose his temper, but never to the point of either asking sometime to hack his site (*cough*Ephili*cough*) or hacking himself. Unless you have evidence, don't slam Cobra.
Now, besides run a clan that doesn't even hold any power anymore, what have you done? You show up and simply add to a flame war by slamming down on Cobra when you could settle this via PMs.
HLP is not the place to flaunt your ego. Now, if you would please leave, we would all be benefited.
Is it just me, or is there some sort of n00bish-attack virus going around? FS2freak got infected, and now it seems DW has fallen into it as well...
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Originally posted by nuclear1
*sigh*
Listen, I believe Cobra has been an idiot or has been annoying at times. That's all behind now. With the help of the HLP community, he's gotten to be a contributing member to the Freespace community.
Even if he was annoying and/or an idiot at times, I refuse to believe that he would do something as immature as hack someone's site. Cobra may lose his temper, but never to the point of either asking sometime to hack his site (*cough*Ephili*cough*) or hacking himself. Unless you have evidence, don't slam Cobra.
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I agree.
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Times have changed, either get used to it or move on. Clans don't hold sway in this community anymore - real work does.
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Um, can we get back on-topic please? Thanks.
I enjoyed the Hecate and Orion articles :D.
We should really start filling up the Wikipedia... :drevil:
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Closed on request of a concerned citizen.
Edit: And after reading this thread, it's more than over due.
Grow up. All of you.