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Offline Flipside

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Nope, I mean Sheridan from Babylon 5, If you haven't seen the series though, it won't make much sense :(

 

Offline Gank

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No it goes far beyond that.

 

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Something that scares a 65-year-old veteran
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Origionally posted by NEM

BUT IT IS IN ARIZONA

This will take time to load, there are several pictures. Please be patient.  And then, then email this thread, and the pictures, and the comments above, to ever media outlet inthe country, in the world.  Show them how this government, and it's backers, are doing what the Nazis did in Germany, and in Europe, in the 1930s and 40s.  THIS MUST BE PASSED ON TO EVERYONE TO SEE....

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I would suggest that someone here post this on that unnamed place, too.



the middle one is just a political message, although a dumb one

the first and third are the problem - they're encouraging an atmosphere of supression of the first ammendment
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It is frightening, since it reminds me of the Lenin posters around Moscow about 20 years ago, and Hitlers posters proclaiming 'Defend the Fatherland' and 'God is on the Fuhrers side' that were posted all round Germany pre-World War 2.

It's not truly breaking any rights as such, but I do find it scary that people can have this kind of Neo-Arian attitude to the world :(

I've said it before, but I'll put it here again for clarification.

1 : 1940's German Film industry goes into overdrive of changing history, claiming that the Germans were related to Atlanteans and Pharohs and that they were the deciding factor in most influencial events in world history.
     2000's American Hollywood performing a very similar role.

2 : 1940's Germany uses Jews and Gays as a scape goat for increasing financial instability caused by poor spending regimes and World War I.
     2000's America uses Muslims and Gays as scapegoats for poor spending regimes and over-spending on wars.

3 : 1940's Germany adopts the policy of 'Disagreement = Treachery'.......

While America does not have concentration camps etc (Though I notice the residents of Fallujah are going to have to wear badges.....) There comparison is honestly becoming more and more scary.
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****. I used to live there, too...This is embarrassing beyond words.
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this isn't only happening in arizona, i've heard about them in michigan, georgia... lots of places

i haven't seen any in iowa yet


flipside: they're not violating rights per-say, but the first and third are encouraging an atmosphere of supression of the first ammendment
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The fact that it's happening PERIOD is enough to turn my stomach.
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Well then it's obvious. The honorable and the free shall have to stand up and take arms against the tyranny.


Sorry, listening to some "epic" songs and it got my revolutionary blood flowing :)

 

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Actually, come to think of it, America does have G-Bay. In which people are abused and tortured, so yes, they do have a concentration camp as well.

Yay! You've got the full hand! :(

 

Offline Gloriano

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History Repeats itself in another form i just hope USA don't turn to worlds enemy or that would be really bad..

It's sad to see that one Superpower is changing so much and so far that change it's been bad

but that "one nation under god" is really scary, does they really believe that?
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Offline Rictor

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Classic.

The US out of the UN? Ah, would that it were true.

 

Offline Petrarch of the VBB

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Stand up, all victims of oppression
For the tyrants fear your might
Don’t cling so hard to your possessions
For you have nothing, if you have no rights
Let racist ignorance be ended
For respect makes the empires fall
Freedom is merely privilege extended
Unless enjoyed by one and all


And so on

 

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Not being funny, but surely if the US got out of the UN, all that would achieve is to remove a veto-ing factor that is crippling them from doing what little they do anyway?

 

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HIG: yes people actually believe that

here is a rebutall against he people who believe that stuff, which will help you understand their claims http://www.nobeliefs.com/Tripoli.htm
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ugh.
this makes me puke...
**** bush. **** america.

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****... i dont know my national hymn after that sentence...
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I dont find it scary at all. I dont think thats leading to anything bad. Just people exercising their freedom of speech. SUre it may be offensive to some people (including me for all but the first one, that seems to be just a campaign sign) but they can just ignore it :cool:

 

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I dont find it scary at all. I dont think thats leading to anything bad. Just people exercising their freedom of speech. SUre it may be offensive to some people (including me for all but the first one, that seems to be just a campaign sign) but they can just ignore it :cool:


People ignored Hitler to begin with...

 

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Has anyone actually stopped to consider what would happen if this trend continued?

I would say world wide revolution, except for one problem: nukes. Any attack on the US, and the nukes would be deployed. Any attack from the US on any developed nation means nukes would be delpoyed.

This is my scenario:

The United States will plunge into a dark age of no civil liberty, no freedoms, a system of "elections" when in reality they are all rigged. The citizens of the US won't realize untill it's too late, because the changes are so gradual.
When finally they do realize, they won't be able to do anything. Any form of political or military resistance would be crushed. Mass emigration would occur, and the other sovereign nations of the world would play host to American "refugees".
The United States either A) Doesn't like this or B) Doesn't care.

If A), they will attempt to put a stop to it by barring exit from the country. Other countries notice, put embargoes on the US, and the US is crushed under a failing economy, or option A2) They launch a desperation attack on the European countries. The world is engulfed in a third world war. Option A3) The world wins, the US is crushed, and must now take a back seat in world affairs. Option A4) The US wins, and takes total control of the world. Option A5) Nuclear weaponry is deployed, plunging the world into a nuclear winter.

Option B) If the US doesn't care, the refugee flood continues. Eventually, news about the US is brought around the world. Either option B2) The above happens, or option B3) The world doesn't do anything, and the US plunges deeper and deeper into debt/chaos/whatever, until it finally crumbles.


There is an option C, where the US goes back on track, but that option is getting dimmer and dimmer.

 

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The problem is Matthew is that if someone put up a sign saying 'Bush has let the US down' in Arizona, I can promise you there would be an outcry. Freedom of Speech is a great thing, but when it is being controlled so that you only have freedom if you speak what the government wants to hear, then things get dangerous.

It's not really this on it's own that is the risk, it's the piling of one pebble upon another until you end up with an avalanche you cannot stop. :(

 

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MatthewPapa: they're creating an atmosphere of supression of the first ammendment

what part of that don't you understand
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