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Offline headdie

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IIRC there's a transmission from the Argentus saying how they hope their sacrifice was not in vain, which of course it was because they could've achieved a similar result by leaving a brick on the accelerator. The lack of autopilot in the FS universe is so conspicuous it's best just to ignore it (bombers requiring a trained pilot to afterburn towards a target and pull the secondary fire trigger a few times are another instance).

At least with bombers you have the excuse of susceptibility to electronic warfare. Though I can't remember a case of the Shivans doing anything like electronic warfare, so...?



I suppose EW plays a part in the early stages of the Great War, it's just not specifically mentioned, with the Shivan craft being undetectable until crates containing shivan electronics are scanned to get a look at the signature of Shivan systems
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Maybe the figures that, if it doesn't work against the Vasudans, it won't work against the technologically superiour Shivans either, so we better put our ressources into other projects.

Or maybe all those ridiculously overpowered weapons (nuclear yield furies for example) are causing so much interference, that they make a proper remote controll on the battlefield impossible.

Though neither possibility would explain why they don't just programm an attack course into a drone. If you leave out any wireless interface and allow the drone only to be programmed by pluggin in a cable, it would make it impossible to be hacked (though it would also prevent emergency shutdown commands to be sent to the dones...).

 

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Maybe the figures that, if it doesn't work against the Vasudans, it won't work against the technologically superiour Shivans either, so we better put our ressources into other projects.

Or maybe all those ridiculously overpowered weapons (nuclear yield furies for example) are causing so much interference, that they make a proper remote controll on the battlefield impossible.

Though neither possibility would explain why they don't just programm an attack course into a drone. If you leave out any wireless interface and allow the drone only to be programmed by pluggin in a cable, it would make it impossible to be hacked (though it would also prevent emergency shutdown commands to be sent to the dones...).

though there seems to be very little remote comms interference seen in the games so that might not be an issue
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If drones are impossible, why the Diomedes as drone controller?

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

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Because Aesaar added drone racks to the Dio doesn't mean the BP team will use it that way.

Doesn't mean they won't, either ! Drones have been confirmed before. The way they'll be used however is still up to debate.
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Actually, Battuta (IIRC, it was him) sort of confirmed that, stating that BP will need the drone racks. It was the whole reason they were added in first place, I noticed that the new model is missing it's forward docks, and after I pointed that out, Battuta asked Aesar to add them.

 

Offline Aesaar

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Because Aesaar added drone racks to the Dio doesn't mean the BP team will use it that way.

Oh, ****, yes. Please maintain all the dockpoints from the original Diomedes, those are very important to some capabilities in R2 (external drone racks)
« Last Edit: October 08, 2012, 05:25:23 pm by Aesaar »

 

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There will be drone bombers with semi-new ordnance. This solves both a fluff problem for the GTVA (we can't keep sending in all these bombers that just explode and die, also the Cyclops is wooorthless against the UEF) and a gameplay problem (these gunships just tear up everything in front of them, how do we provide enough targets to be fun without making the GTVA look like morons?)
« Last Edit: October 08, 2012, 04:10:58 pm by General Battuta »

 

Offline -Norbert-

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If drones are impossible, why the Diomedes as drone controller?
Advances of controll, communication and/or autopilot technologies in the course of the last 32 years since the 2nd Shivan incursion (the time period I was talking about... which I forgot to mention in my post).

 

Offline Aesaar

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If drones are impossible, why the Diomedes as drone controller?
Because BP and Derelict are part of two separate continuities?

Unless Derelict is BP canon, which I doubt.  While we have a few references, like the 212th Silver Scythes, I think the events of Derelict would warrant a big mention in the BP fiction.

 

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At the mention of drones, will there be obligatory drones swarms to torment us?
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Offline crizza

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If drones are impossible, why the Diomedes as drone controller?
Because BP and Derelict are part of two separate continuities?

Unless Derelict is BP canon, which I doubt.  While we have a few references, like the 212th Silver Scythes, I think the events of Derelict would warrant a big mention in the BP fiction.
Man, this was a simple question, just to point out.
If there are drones in R2(which Batutta confirmed) fine,
if not, I don't give another thought about it, 'cause unlike other people around, I don't question every single bit of this mod.

 

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Questioning every single bit of this mod is actually a good thing, since it provokes interesting discussion. BP universe has been given a lot of thought, much more than most "big budget" universes. This lets the team know that their attention to details paid off.

 

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If drones are impossible, why the Diomedes as drone controller?
Because BP and Derelict are part of two separate continuities?

Unless Derelict is BP canon, which I doubt.  While we have a few references, like the 212th Silver Scythes, I think the events of Derelict would warrant a big mention in the BP fiction.
Man, this was a simple question, just to point out.
... and that was a simple answer ?

What are you on about.
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Offline crizza

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THx to you Mister Smart ass, there won't be many people who dares to point out anything :rolleyes:

 

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Hang on for a second. Crizza, there is no need for you to be all hurt about this. You misunderstood something, or were unaware of something we said publically, and Aesaar corrected you on that. Nowhere in this were you ever actually attacked, or been subject to insult. So please stop acting as if you were insulted.
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Offline crizza

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There will be drone bombers with semi-new ordnance. This solves both a fluff problem for the GTVA (we can't keep sending in all these bombers that just explode and die, also the Cyclops is wooorthless against the UEF) and a gameplay problem (these gunships just tear up everything in front of them, how do we provide enough targets to be fun without making the GTVA look like morons?)

That sounded to me, as if there will be drones in R2 and the Diomedes will be act as drone controller.
And I don't feel hurt or something, just annoyed about Maths matter of fact style.