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Archived Boards => The Archive => Terran-Vasudan War => Topic started by: Odyssey on December 30, 2003, 06:04:47 pm
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Talking to DragonClaw on IRC, I was told you guys needed a Vasudan Carrier. In sheer boredom, I made one. Doesn't matter if you don't want it, or would prefer it in another designation, or anything, I don't really care. I can probably texture it if you like it.
(http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/aotd/Odyssey/models/vascarry.gif)
443 Polygons.
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...can't...make...out...any...details...
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not bad, but we need older vasudans :)
make it a bit more boxy, and add nifty details :)
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Make it a lot boxier or give it a weird Typhonlike shape.
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Talk to JC Denton. IIRC, he designed most of the ships for Nodewar's FVC based on being fairly Typhon-ish.
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It looks approximately like the SF Dragon.
I like the general shape, but it's not FS1-ish Vasudan-ish enough. Try flattening it a bit, and make it boxier.
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A 'smooth quad divide' would make wonders with it.
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I've always wondered why the didnt have carriers or something like that in games, designed to carry massive ammounts of fighters. I am for putting it in there, and also, it shouldnt look boxy, it should be organic-ish. All their fighters look like creatures in some way, like the Seraphis and Seth, they all look like living fighters, so a carrier is no exception. Good job dood, kept it up.
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Hm. Forgot about this. It was only a 15-min jobbie, basically the result of my experimenting with organic shapes that remain low-polygon-count. If anyone wants the model, tell me the format and I'll upload it, but otherwise I'm quite happy to just let it rest in peace.
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I think the model idea is that of a good once, and if we could make it somehow smoother and more organic looking would be really cool for a carrier idea! :D
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It has to be in the FS1 Vasudan style, which this isn't. If you want to keep working on it, Odyssey, by all means do so, but otherwise don't worry about it. :)
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How do you imagine an FS1-era Vasudan destroyer? There is only the Typhon from which we can set an example. That is not much. Do you have any other big ships modelled for this mod? Only curious, so please do not get your long-range sniper and zoom in at me. ;)
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...or the Aten. Actually as far as we know even Volition didn't really know what Vasudan is while making the game (the original is full of very bad models - not design, but implementation wise).
The general consensus we have states that pre FS2 things are more bulky and pre Great War things are probably even more unfashioned.
However the basic Vasudan shape is curvic while Terran is boxy.
Vasudan ships are also flatter than Terran.
This is what I could come up with in 5 mins, but I guess our modellers will come up with better results.
There won't be Vasudans in Chapter 1 - but it will be a definite blow. You'll finally have crafts with a real feeling of inertia.
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OK, the Aten. But that is small. I suppose a carrier is supposed to be large so that it could house several wings of fighters.
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I have an idea! A carrier with a soft underbelly, and the top is sort of put into a smooth form of a triangle (smooth, which means its not entirely triangle but it comes into the basic shape of one) with the control deck at the front. I think I can get a picture of my idea for you guys to look at. But anyway, it has this triangular shape at the top thats smooth, with a soft and cut-in-half oval shape, and then a control deck at the front. Then, it has fighter bays sort of set into the triangular shape, where its like having cannons only not. Maybe I can get a picture i made. I'll see.
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A soft underbelly? If you tickle it, will it squirm?
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:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Im being sincere. I mean like, the bottom of the carrie would be round and soft, so when you fly up to it it is NOT pixilated, it is clearly round. ;7
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Originally posted by Odyssey
A soft underbelly? If you tickle it, will it squirm?
hehe
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Stop being so childish its time to get down with more serious business... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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uhm, 'tis not me who's childish here :p
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Well are we going to consider this idea or not? I think that a carrier with organic-ness like qualities just like the one I mentioned.
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FS2 is organic. FS1 is smooth but still rather blocky.
I'll leave it up to Odyssey for what he wants to do.
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Well, the Aten still is very smooth and such, but my FS1 copy is ceasing to work now because, well, I dont know why. It just does.
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Originally posted by Mad Bomber
Talk to JC Denton. IIRC, he designed most of the ships for Nodewar's FVC based on being fairly Typhon-ish.
Well, that'll sure shock you upon your first visit to the forum. :D
Umm....yeah....I've got a few, though I never really got too far into the heavy-duty detailing. Most of the destroyer-and-up ships were based on the Typhon (namely a heavy strike carrier and a superdreadnaught), and a few ships (corvette comes to mind) were more closely resembling the FS2-era vasudan mid-size capships. No space-hoovers in my arsenal. :lol:
Anyways, links. Yes, links to pics are good.
Cruisers:
Mycene Escort Frigate (http://kadisalpha.port5.com/images/mycene.jpg) Okay, so it doesn't follow a purely Vasudan design scheme (FVC _were_ influenced by being surrounded by Terrans, after all), flimsy like an Aten, but mounts a number of anti-cruiser plasma turrets, and is fast-ish and maneuverable-ish.
Necreis Beam Frigate (http://kadisalpha.port5.com/images/Necreis.jpg) Might be a funny little thing for a botched beam-weapon project the Vasudans may have tried during the T-V war. Big SVas-equivalent that it's built around, and a few point-defense guns for when it's not trying to shoot the main (in Nodewars, the main gun was more a short-range BFGreen-like lightsaber at one point :D )
Corvettes:
Sovis Heavy Corvette (http://quantium40.port5.com/images/sovis001.jpg)
And another view (http://quantium40.port5.com/images/sovis002.jpg) Okay, as you can see, it's like a refit of the Sobek (and you get the name derivation), and also is a more FS2-era themed ship.
Destroyers:
Djedju Heavy Destroyer/Battleship (http://quantium40.port5.com/images/Djedju.jpg) Not entirely following with the FS1 Vasudan theme, and considering it was meant for delivering a four-punch of BVas beams, it may not entirely work for you. Maybe a heavy torpedo platform for standoff engagements...
Carriers:
Thutmose Assault Carrier (http://quantium40.port5.com/images/thutmose.jpg) Sort of looks like the bastard child of a Centauri Primus and a PVD Typhon. Sorry for the underside-only. If it passes muster, I'll try to do some shots of the topside and aft sections.
Unknown Supercarrier (http://quantium40.port5.com/images/vas_supercarrier_01.jpg)
And another view (http://quantium40.port5.com/images/vas_supercarrier_02.jpg) These, originally, were designs someone put up in the Art forum several years back, and for the life of me, I can't remember who they were. I couldn't sit still with the not-quite-great sketches, so I redid them, and these were the result. So, in all actuality, these aren't from Nodewars :D
Dreadnaughts:
Sheol Superdreadnaught (http://quantium40.port5.com/images/sheol3.jpg) Yeah, the one that managed to drop everyone's jaw when I unveiled it during the height of NW2. Very Typhon-ish, but the big turrets are plasma beams (and it's got a rapid-charge shield array and AWACS suite, WAAAY too advanced for T-V era :p) Still, might be fun for a result of the Vasudan Beam Project ;)
Well, what say you?