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Title: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: jr2 on July 23, 2007, 05:44:23 pm
My $30 Wal-Mart Wireless mouse+keyboard combo is rapidly wearing out.  I'd like something that takes AA or AAA batteries, as I have a supply of Ni-MH Hybrid AAs and AAAs.  It'd be nice if the mouse was laser (or high resolution of whatever type); currently I've got a 600 dpi wirelessand a 300 dpi non-wirless.  The keyboard has media player buttons, which I like.  What are your recommendations for replacements.  (They don't have to be wireless... the only requirement is that they are under $100, unless they are uber-pwnz0rring in some way that you can define.)

Any advise appreciated.  Thx.  :)
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: CP5670 on July 24, 2007, 01:07:16 am
The G5 (new 7 button version) is currently $50 at Circuit City and looks very good for that price. I'll probably replace my MX518 for one of those soon.

As for keyboards, the G15 and G11 are packed with features but rather expensive. They're probably not worth paying full MSRP for, but can sometimes be found on sale for significantly less.
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: Ashrak on July 24, 2007, 02:03:15 pm
i got a G5 with a UltraX
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: Davros on July 24, 2007, 03:10:52 pm
Thats easy the original ibm ps2 keyboard "keyboard of the Gods"
(http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6200/keyboard01oc0.gif) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: jr2 on July 24, 2007, 04:11:21 pm
:wtf: I have one of those.  I don't use it.  Why do you?
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: CP5670 on July 24, 2007, 05:17:58 pm
A lot of people like those, but I can't understand why either. The keys are extremely noisy compared to modern keyboards and since they're PS2, there are annoying limitations on which keys can be pressed simultaneously.
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: Ghostavo on July 24, 2007, 05:24:19 pm
I've got one of these (http://www.a4tech.com/en/product2.asp?CID=102&SCID=103&MNO=X-718).

Nice little fellow, helps to get used 2000 DPI when one is used to just 600 from "normal" mouses. Also useful when people who are not used to it have to use it.
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: jr2 on July 24, 2007, 05:24:29 pm
... and since they're PS2, there are annoying limitations on which keys can be pressed simultaneously.

...which is exactly why I don't use them.
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: Nuke on July 24, 2007, 09:36:16 pm
DO NOT get a logitech mx5000 laser combo, it sucks monkeyballs!
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: Unknown Target on July 24, 2007, 11:57:26 pm
Hah, I'm using USB keyboard that looks exactly like that IBM...
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: Davros on July 25, 2007, 05:41:54 am
thats the point entirely you still have one, they are engineered to last
they should line the walls of nuclear blast shelters with them..
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: starfox on July 25, 2007, 05:47:30 am
Well, I'm currently using Logitech Ultra Flat Keyboard and Razer Copperhead combination, that works for me.
Keyboard above all, was very chep, stylish and compact, without any oh-so special media shortcut keys (man, I hate those.)
Razer is perhaps little more pricey, but it is the best IMO.

Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: jr2 on July 25, 2007, 09:48:09 am
I used to hate the media shortcuts, too, until I found that it's hard to switch tracks in Winamp whilst playing Tremulous.  :p  All I want is play, stop, pause, forwards, backwards, vol up, vol down, mute, and that's pretty much it.   Extras ofc do not hurt, but I prolly won't use them.
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: butter_pat_head on July 25, 2007, 02:32:12 pm
I got my Model M of eBay a few years ago to replace the pos that was my old keyboard (the backspace key would stick sometimes.  Quite annoying when programming, thank god for CTRL-Z).  The mechanism underneath the keys of a Model M are a lot more reliable than the rubber dome switches used in modern day keyboards.  I find my Model M quite suitable for playing games.

A lot of people like those, but I can't understand why either. The keys are extremely noisy compared to modern keyboards and since they're PS2, there are annoying limitations on which keys can be pressed simultaneously.

I find the noise of my Model M quite reassuring.  I get far less typos compared to my previous more modern keyboard and the issue with simultaneous key presses plaque all keyboards which use a matrix system to scan the keys, ps/2 and USB alike, not to mention that ps/2 has a lower latency than USB. 

There's the added bonus that in the event of an emergency the cable can unplug from the back of the keyboard so it can become a quite effective means of self defence.  A Model M has both weight and reach!

You should check out /g/ on 4chan, there's usually a thread or two a week about the beloved Model M there.
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: CP5670 on July 25, 2007, 03:21:40 pm
Quote
I find the noise of my Model M quite reassuring.  I get far less typos compared to my previous more modern keyboard and the issue with simultaneous key presses plaque all keyboards which use a matrix system to scan the keys, ps/2 and USB alike, not to mention that ps/2 has a lower latency than USB.

There's the added bonus that in the event of an emergency the cable can unplug from the back of the keyboard so it can become a quite effective means of self defence.  A Model M has both weight and reach!

No, it seems to be limited to PS2 models. Try pressing 0, 8 and one other key (usually 4, 6, 7 or 9) on the numpad at the same time and the motherboard will most likely beep at you. I got this problem on every PS2 keyboard I used and it was causing a lot of problems since I use those keys in FPS games, but I have encountered no such issues on USB ones. My G15 works flawlessly with the numpad.

Can't argue about the extra utility though. But I already have a 22" CRT and a 60lb fulltower case around for that purpose. :D
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: jr2 on July 26, 2007, 03:33:23 am
My word!  Just use a paperweight!  XD  Keep one on your desk for "decorative" purposes.  Thx for all the advise so far...  if there's more, I'm still listening.  :nod:
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: ZmaN on August 08, 2007, 10:34:05 pm
I currently use a Logitech MX3100 Desktop Combo.  its got a laser mouse.  I like it alot except for the home and end keys positions (and the keys around them) are messed up so the shields are hard to balance in freespace.  Otherwise its a great combo.  It does have a rechargable battery.  I find it more convienent but its up to you...
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: jr2 on October 01, 2007, 10:10:36 am
OK, I finally went out and got a Logitech LX 710 (http://www.modders-inc.com/reviews-print-98.html) Cordless Desktop (Laser) Keyboard & Mouse combo... cost me $70 US at Wal-Mart.  Thx for all the advise, guys... although it turns out I didn't get any of the stuff you mentioned.  :doubt:  Ah, well.  This one was available locally; what can I say?  :p  Anybody have comments on LX 710s?  (If you have used it.)
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: JGZinv on October 01, 2007, 02:13:13 pm
I've got a pair of old Logitech Trackman Marble+ 's

They've been solid for over 10 years now... and I can still out turn
just about anyone in a dogfight who's using a joystick.

There's a PS2 and USB1 version out there, but pretty much you can find
em on eBay... such as here...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Logitech-USB-Trackman-Marble-With-Wheel_W0QQitemZ120166560600QQihZ002QQ (http://cgi.ebay.com/Logitech-USB-Trackman-Marble-With-Wheel_W0QQitemZ120166560600QQihZ002QQ)
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: m on October 05, 2007, 04:13:14 pm
thats the point entirely you still have one, they are engineered to last
they should line the walls of nuclear blast shelters with them..
:lol:  too bad they don't have the same kind of indestructibility built into keyboards nowadays... but then you wouldn't buy new ones, would you? :eek:

-m
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: Gortef on October 15, 2007, 06:04:46 am
Razer Copperhead and Logitech G15 -combo has worked for me for a while now and I'm definetly not complaining. Sure both of them are not the most cheapest ones in the market, and the mouse is wired (if you really are looking for a wireless), but these two are great pieces of equipment (except if you like playing FEAR/FEAR Combat, Logitech USB devices have a bad habit of making the game slow as heck. I know my G15 does... damnit).
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: BloodEagle on October 15, 2007, 11:55:51 am
Das Keyboard (http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8396/).
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: jr2 on October 15, 2007, 03:02:55 pm
Ha, ha... the only time I look at my keyboard is if for some reason I'm not sure my fingers are on the home row and I can't feel the little bumps on the F an J .... I'm a touch typist.  ;7
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: CP5670 on October 15, 2007, 03:21:17 pm
Razer Copperhead and Logitech G15 -combo has worked for me for a while now and I'm definetly not complaining. Sure both of them are not the most cheapest ones in the market, and the mouse is wired (if you really are looking for a wireless), but these two are great pieces of equipment (except if you like playing FEAR/FEAR Combat, Logitech USB devices have a bad habit of making the game slow as heck. I know my G15 does... damnit).

I don't think I had any problem with a G15 in that game. My brother used to play it a lot on my system. Not sure how a keyboard would make a game slow in any case. :wtf: Try updating the drivers for it and see if turning off the LGDCore/LCDMon background apps does anything. They aren't needed for the basic keyboard functionality.
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: Gortef on October 22, 2007, 03:00:54 am
Maybe they have released some new drivers since the last time I checked, but it was actually a real problem acnowledged by both the monolith and logitech.
Actually I guesss I didn't type it correctly... the game itself didn't slow down,  the controls did. The extra gizmos in G15 caused the controls to lag and the only way back then when I tried to look for it was to disable all the HID devices that were connected to the G15 from the Device Manager.
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: diceman111 on October 24, 2007, 11:15:00 am
I have an Logitech MX1000 mouse and a G15 keyboard both is excellent, thinking of replacing the mouse but I really dont know
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: jr2 on October 25, 2007, 03:21:08 am
Hmm... for some reason, my mouse is a bit skitsy.. it jumps a little, like a wheeled mouse.  And my MS wheel mouse is actually more responsive... (well, I can change that via the settings, but with the skitsy/jumpiness I can't have it that sensitive).
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: m on October 30, 2007, 04:20:49 pm
Hmm... for some reason, my mouse is a bit skitsy.. it jumps a little, like a wheeled mouse.  And my MS wheel mouse is actually more responsive... (well, I can change that via the settings, but with the skitsy/jumpiness I can't have it that sensitive).

yay microsoft... jk

*runs*

-m
Title: Re: Can someone recommend a good keyboard / mouse combo?
Post by: jr2 on October 31, 2007, 01:54:49 am
Eh?  M$ didn't really make that mouse, you turd.  Prolly was another company they screwed contracted the work out to.