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Offline General Battuta

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
A FrigRon is a Jovian frigate squadron (usually two/three ships).

TacArt Bravo is Tactical Artillery Squadron Bravo.

The ecliptic north is the area of a solar system (or planetary moon system) 'above' the ecliptic plane, which is the orbital plane of the bodies in the system.

EMCON is emissions control, curtailing or eliminating outgoing signals to prevent detection by enemy forces who might be listening.

Master Arm is a control on a combat aircraft that governs whether or not weapons can be fired.

BFM advantage is the upper hand in a dogfight (with the dogfight maneuvering being considered 'BFM', basic fighter maneuvers).

G-Loc is g-induced loss of consciousness, the impact of acceleration forces on a pilot's brain forcing them towards or into a faint.

RSP is Render Safe Procedure, a component of defusing a warhead.

EOD team is an Explosives Ordnance Disposal team.

SAR is Search and Rescue, a unit charged with tracking down ejected pilots.

ACM is Air Combat Maneuvering, the tactics used to win a dogfight.

Sabot rounds are weapons smaller than the bore of a gun, surrounded by disposable 'sabots' which help them fill up the weapon's bore so they can still be fired. In BP2 context, they are penetrator rounds designed to pierce heavy armor by concentrating maximum pressure on minimum area, as opposed to hive rounds which carry a larger explosive payload.

Triage is a process in combat medicine whereby medical specialists sort the wounded into three categories: those who will survive without treatment, those who will die no matter what, and those who would die without treatment but could be saved with work.

CQB/HVBO teams are close quarters battle/hostile vessel boarding operation teams.

Maader ho is an expression in Olefumi's blend of Afrikaans and South African slang.

 

Offline SF-Junky

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Wow. Thanks for that quick answer.
I guess at least one of you has served with the air/naval forces to know all that stuff? :)

 

Offline Commander Zane

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
A few.
Or they just know it for other reasons, like myself and my old space battle comics.

 
Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
After completing AoA again, and knowing what happens in WiH.
Spoiler:
The Vishnan's spoke so highly of the GTVA's accomplishments, add to this that Elder Mandho(sp?) says the whispers (From the Vishnans?) have stopped in "ken"... I think the Vishnans want the GTVA to win the conflict.

But not because they want the GTVA to become the new Brahmans, but rather....
Spoiler:
To replace the Shivans, who've been banished from the great council. I don't think it would take much convincing to get the GTVA to exterminate the former Destroyers... if given the chance.

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Offline The E

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
A few.
Or they just know it for other reasons, like myself and my old space battle comics.

Most of the pilot slang comes from Dilmah, who plans on having a career in the australian air force.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
I actually wrote most of the slang in after too many hours in Falcon 4.0, but Dilmah is probably better at it than me. There are a few uses that aren't entirely consistent with real life that I think he's spotted.

 

Offline Mars

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
After completing AoA again, and knowing what happens in WiH.
Spoiler:
The Vishnan's spoke so highly of the GTVA's accomplishments, add to this that Elder Mandho(sp?) says the whispers (From the Vishnans?) have stopped in "ken"... I think the Vishnans want the GTVA to win the conflict.

But not because they want the GTVA to become the new Brahmans, but rather....
Spoiler:
To replace the Shivans, who've been banished from the great council. I don't think it would take much convincing to get the GTVA to exterminate the former Destroyers... if given the chance.



That actually occured to me too. I don't know if that's the intended plot, but I almost kind of hope.

 

Offline Jellyfish

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
In BP2 context, they are penetrator rounds designed to pierce heavy armor by concentrating maximum pressure on minimum area, as opposed to hive rounds which carry a larger explosive payload.

Are those rounds still 'sabot' if they don't use sabot? What you describe there is simple AP.
Then again, I know tanks, not navy. Perhaps the same term is used for two different types of ammunition.

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Offline Scotty

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
They're 'sabot' in that they're smaller in diameter than the bore of the weapon they're being fired from.

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
In BP2 context, they are penetrator rounds designed to pierce heavy armor by concentrating maximum pressure on minimum area, as opposed to hive rounds which carry a larger explosive payload.

Are those rounds still 'sabot' if they don't use sabot? What you describe there is simple AP.
Then again, I know tanks, not navy. Perhaps the same term is used for two different types of ammunition.

They're smaller than the usual bore of the railguns, so they need sabots.

 

Offline Nuclear1

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
EMCON is emissions control, curtailing or eliminating outgoing signals to prevent detection by enemy forces who might be listening.

Which, fun fact, is called two different names in the US government comm world:  EMSEC (Emissions/Emanations Security) or the NSA codeterm TEMPEST.


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Offline -Norbert-

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
After completing AoA again, and knowing what happens in WiH.
Spoiler:
The Vishnan's spoke so highly of the GTVA's accomplishments, add to this that Elder Mandho(sp?) says the whispers (From the Vishnans?) have stopped in "ken"... I think the Vishnans want the GTVA to win the conflict.

But not because they want the GTVA to become the new Brahmans, but rather....
Spoiler:
To replace the Shivans, who've been banished from the great council. I don't think it would take much convincing to get the GTVA to exterminate the former Destroyers... if given the chance.
Spoiler:
If I remember the timing correctly, the Vishnans stopped their contact during the war, not immediately upon arrival of the 14th in their own universe, so I think they stoped whispering either because they are disappointed by the UEFs actions during the war, because of some treaty with the Shivans about not intervening in such wars or because they want to evaluate the reaction of the UEF to see wether they really are as enlightened as they hope them to be.
Or as a more sinster alternative, they want to wait till the UEF lost the last shred of hope to ride in as the great saviours to make it easier for them to manipulate the Humans in the future.

Come to think of it, it could even be possible that the Shivans jammed the connection between the Vishnans and the Elders, either deliberately or simply through the connection between Ken and Laporte.

 

Offline Dilmah G

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
A few.
Or they just know it for other reasons, like myself and my old space battle comics.

Most of the pilot slang comes from Dilmah, who plans on having a career in the australian air force.
Yeahs, I picked a fair bit of it up at RAAF Base Pearce, where I used to get sent up for courses and that for weeks at a time when I was a cadet, and as a result got familiar with a bit of pilot slang and general defence force slang.

I actually wrote most of the slang in after too many hours in Falcon 4.0, but Dilmah is probably better at it than me. There are a few uses that aren't entirely consistent with real life that I think he's spotted.
The way in which you've used them makes them 'consistently inconsistent', which is good enough for me, since it satisfies the rule of cool. ;)

 

Offline -Sara-

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
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If I remember the timing correctly, the Vishnans stopped their contact during the war, not immediately upon arrival of the 14th in their own universe, so I think they stoped whispering either because they are disappointed by the UEFs actions during the war, because of some treaty with the Shivans about not intervening in such wars or because they want to evaluate the reaction of the UEF to see wether they really are as enlightened as they hope them to be.
Or as a more sinster alternative, they want to wait till the UEF lost the last shred of hope to ride in as the great saviours to make it easier for them to manipulate the Humans in the future.

Come to think of it, it could even be possible that the Shivans jammed the connection between the Vishnans and the Elders, either deliberately or simply through the connection between Ken and Laporte.

Spoiler:
Or the terran civil war and the recent skirmish (AoA) with the Shivans has sparked a war of their own. Vishans vs. Shivans. Metaphorically gods vs gods, a "war in heaven".

That's what I think anyway.
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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
That would make a lot of sense, but we wouldn't be able to see any of it in R2 anyway.

 

Offline -Norbert-

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Spoiler:
But what would that mean for Ken?
Is he some kind of rebell, that he is taking his time with Laporte instead of helping in the war against the counterpart?
« Last Edit: March 16, 2011, 02:12:45 pm by -Norbert- »

 

Offline Snail

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
We don't know if Ken is a Vishnan or a Shivan or a member of either one acting independently of his species.

 

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We don't know if Ken is a Vishnan or a Shivan
I used "counterpart" instead of stating either species exactly because of that. ;)
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or a member of either one acting independently of his species.
And that's exactly what I meant with "rebel" in my question.

 

Offline Snail

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Oh well then in that case I suppose we agree.

 

Offline -Sara-

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Spoiler:
But what would that mean for Ken?
Is he some kind of rebell, that he is taking his time with Laporte instead of helping in the war against the counterpart?

Spoiler:
I can't guess Ken's true purpose until WiH part deux is released. For all we (don't) know, the UEF may making a shocking choice which triggers Laporte to choose an entirely different side. She seems like a fighter, if the UEF surrender, flee, go on exodus or do something totally wack there's no telling what role Laporte plays.

Again Ken might indeed be Aken (Bosch) who in turn tries to rally terrans to help the Shivans, only used as a tool and puppet by the Shivans to fight the Vishans with and ensuring that the devided terrans become no new Brahmas. In that case they can continue destroying stuff unopposed.
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