[Mars]

Juice shouldn't be too much of a problem if you make any use at all of your ETS

[LordPomposity]

Juice shouldn't be too much of a problem if you make any use at all of your ETS

Is this the part where someone starts a dick-measuring contest about which difficulty level we play on?

[Mars]

Shouldn't be, because I generally play Very Hard. I had a lot of trouble with weapon energy before I discovered the joys of ETS via a video Goober posted. . . five or so years ago.

[Kolgena]

Not to sound contemptuous, but it seems to me that the majority of the UEF fighters were designed for the player to micromanage ETS a little across any difficulty. Guns, shields, and burners all have good capacity and **** recharge-to-full times compared to GTVA fighters, so pushing around energy as needed seems to make dogfights a fair bit easier. You don't have to play with the ETS, but it sure helps.

(btw, there is no "very hard". Only Very Easy, Easy, Medium, Hard, Insane.

[QuakeIV]

Thats just because he is lying.  I kinda figured thats the whole idea behind dick measuring.

[General Battuta]

Thats just because he is lying.  I kinda figured thats the whole idea behind dick measuring.

Whoa, what the heck? Please keep it civil. There's no call for this kind of personal attack over a video game mod.

[QuakeIV]

Um, I kinda figured it would be taken as a joke.  I wasn't the person to introduce dick measuring to the conversation.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Shouldn't be, because I generally play Very Hard. I had a lot of trouble with weapon energy before I discovered the joys of ETS via a video Goober posted. . . five or so years ago.

Don't forget the Shield<->Laser function. May be more of a gimmick than a really useful function, but that can be used to provide an extra boost to either gun or shield energy when you need it.

[niffiwan]

I think Laser<->Shields would be more useful if it transfered more energy per button press, like about the amount used in the Xwing series games.  Currently I just hold down scroll-lock as my "panic" button and forget about shields to lasers

[-Norbert-]

I think the "laser<->shield function" is what the other refered to as the ETS (Energy Transfer System).

[Iss Mneur]

I think the "laser<->shield function" is what the other referred to as the ETS (Energy Transfer System).

No, there are a couple of buttons that will convert shield energy to gun energy and gun energy to shield energy.  I believe by default they are 'Scroll Lock' and 'pause/break'.

The ETS is about recharge rate of the gun/shield/afterburner. The convert buttons actually move the energy stored in one to the other.

[redsniper]

I spam laser -> shield SO much. Especially amid flak.

[Kolgena]

I just empty energy from guns. Afterburner reserves matter just as much as shields (if not more so) if you're getting shot at.

[QuakeIV]

Let me just say I had no idea that existed.  I would probably die a lot less if I knew how to dump my other reserves into my shields as well.

[-Norbert-]

I think the "laser<->shield function" is what the other referred to as the ETS (Energy Transfer System).

No, there are a couple of buttons that will convert shield energy to gun energy and gun energy to shield energy.  I believe by default they are 'Scroll Lock' and 'pause/break'.

The ETS is about recharge rate of the gun/shield/afterburner. The convert buttons actually move the energy stored in one to the other.

Sorry about my confusion on the point, my FS2 is in german, so I'm not 100% sure about the english terms. I really thought the ETS was the actual transfering of the energy, as the name would suggest, rather than changing the recharge rates.

[Kolgena]

Let me just say I had no idea that existed.  I would probably die a lot less if I knew how to dump my other reserves into my shields as well.

If you're referring to what I said, I didn't mean you could take your primary and afterburner reserves and move them around. I simply meant that throwing out all your gun energy on the ETS is good for survival.

[General Battuta]

Now I'm getting confused, because you can take your primary reserves and move them around. Maybe you can do this with afterburner too, I don't know.

[Kolgena]

When we say reserves, do we mean that curved bar on the right side of the target indicator bracket? If so, my mind is blown.

edit: WHAT IS THIS MADNESS MY MIND IS BLOWN

Can someone fill me in on the mechanics of the system? Is sloshing around guns and  shields energy 100% efficient? We don't lose energy in the process? What's the conversion rate between gun and shield energy?

[General Battuta]

Have fun, it's a super useful mechanic.

[Kolgena]

Alright, so transfers back and forth are 100% efficient. Conversion rates seem terrible. You can empty a full bar of gun energy and not get much shielding back, but this might be fighter dependent. I only tried on a herc 1. Conversion speed is great for guns->shields, but terrible for shields->guns. Still, I can't believe I've played this game for years without knowing you could do this.

Does AI use this ship function? Fury AI or otherwise?

On a Ulysses, ~4.5 bars of gun power = full shields
On an Ares, ~3.5 bars of gun power = full shields

Seems to be fighter dependent, (so there is a fixed ratio used between actual points in gun power and shield power) but if a full bar of gun energy gives you about a full shield quadrant back, that's nothing to sneeze at. I only wish shields-> guns was faster to help sustained kayser or maxim fire.