[An4ximandros]

Spoiler:

...though if someone wants to tell me what I'll see in advance I won't complain!

Spoiler:

Madness... and then you'll have to cut your arms and legs off to complete the mission.

[crizza]

WTF?
Finished the campaign, the game crashed after the ending cutscene and now I cannot even acces the mainhall?


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[SaltyWaffles]

The FREDding for Tenebra is insane. Even on my first time through each mission, I was in awe of just how intricate it must have been. Universal Truth is STILL an enigma to me...I mean, having each scene separated by something like 200+ kilometers, with two dozen juggernauts in the first scene alone making my computer cry? I still have no idea how it was all pulled off in *one* mission.

[niffiwan]

crizza: you've hit a red-alert pilot file issue, here's a thread with more details.

[crizza]

What bugged me...
Is it the Toutatis or the...Eris(that's the name of Netrebas Solaris, wasn't it?) in the ending sequence?
Shouldn't the Toutatis be at Neptune and if not, where is the ship of Netreba?

And how old is Noemi?

Spoiler:

In act two in the section with the red and black ands, I think she was four and heard Ken...in Universal Truth he/they said, Noemi was created/shaped by them her entire life. So ist she 18 or maybe older? I can't believe that Bosch and his other crewmembers who became Ken joined the Shivans and the other day they are Ken...

[Crybertrance]

What bugged me...
Is it the Toutatis or the...Eris(that's the name of Netrebas Solaris, wasn't it?) in the ending sequence?
Shouldn't the Toutatis be at Neptune and if not, where is the ship of Netreba?

The Toutatis is at Mars getting a refit I guess (the Mass Drivers are getting tacked on)

[MatthTheGeek]

It is the Toutatis in the ending sequence. It was there being retrofitted with the big mass drivers you see. Keep in mind that Neptune is just a subspace jump away, ie seconds or minutes.

Eris could be anywhere else. There are many places to defend and I don't think 2nd Fleet HQ need two Solarises on station at all times.

EDIT: ninja'd

[crizza]

Damn shame, haven't read that.
Is that the reason why we have a Solaris#Toutatis and so on in Fred? I would look it up via F3 ingame, but that malloc thing prevents this.

[Crybertrance]

Damn shame, haven't read that.
Is that the reason why we have a Solaris#Toutatis and so on in Fred? I would look it up via F3 ingame, but that malloc thing prevents this.

The Solaris#Toutatis is the regular Solaris with the added Mass Driver guns (both on the model, as well as in the tables).

[crizza]

I'm currently reading about the weapons of BP.
To make it short: I have read it on this board several time that the Tevs are better with beam weapons, but the Zods are the reactor experts.
Taken this for granted, how came this along?
During the second incursion, the Zod beams where discribed as outperforming their terran counterparts by a fair margin?
Or are the Tevs just better with beams, because we haven't seen any new Zod weapons?

[Aesaar]

Zod beams outperform Terran beams because they weren't holding them back like the Terrans were.  The Terrans built their beams with backwards compatibility in mind, and made them weaker as a result.  Just compare the Orion with the Typhon.  The Orion mounts 6 beam cannons.  The Typhon has power grid issues mounting two. 

Same goes for cruisers.  Even moden Vasudan cruisers (Mentu) mount no capital-grade beam cannons.  The Aeolus happily carries two, and both the Great War cruisers mount one.

[crizza]

So it is rediculous to think they will retrofit their ships any time in the future...a pity.

[Jellyfish]

Why retrofit old ships when you can make new ones?
Which begs the question: the Tevs made all kinds of new ships and strategies to fight Shivans. The Zods didn't. Why?
Did the Threat Exigency Initiatives not apply to them?

[The E]

Why retrofit old ships when you can make new ones?
Which begs the question: the Tevs made all kinds of new ships and strategies to fight Shivans. The Zods didn't. Why?
Did the Threat Exigency Initiatives not apply to them?

:headdesk:

Okay, I just have to ask, did you read any of the previous discussions about the Vasudans in BP? Because, as we've said again and again, as we mentioned in the supplementary fiction on the BP site, the Zods have a larger, on average more modern fleet than the Terrans.

The reason you haven't seen any of it yet is because you didn't have to see them. They have no part in the story so far, and so we'll keep not showing them until we've really nailed down what we want to give them.

[crizza]

Can't wait to see that

Edit: How far ahead are the Vasudans in terms of Nagari? Knowing about and even contacting Noemi is...well, a feat for itself, although I think the Fedayeen(I guess I spelled this word wrong) let them in...but then again, that GEF Girl entered the dreamscape all by herself.

[manwiththemachinegun]

Why retrofit old ships when you can make new ones?
Which begs the question: the Tevs made all kinds of new ships and strategies to fight Shivans. The Zods didn't. Why?
Did the Threat Exigency Initiatives not apply to them?

:headdesk:

Okay, I just have to ask, did you read any of the previous discussions about the Vasudans in BP? Because, as we've said again and again, as we mentioned in the supplementary fiction on the BP site, the Zods have a larger, on average more modern fleet than the Terrans.

The reason you haven't seen any of it yet is because you didn't have to see them. They have no part in the story so far, and so we'll keep not showing them until we've really nailed down what we want to give them.

About the :headdesk: comment...

Not everyone here is a constant member of the BP community. It can be months, or even up to a year between releases. I'm not going to be pouring over BP background continuity two months from now. Sometimes it pays to be a little n00b friendly.

[MatthTheGeek]

Maybe you should read everything in there and come back afterward.

[Kolgena]

Random tangent, not at all related:

I didn't realize that parts of WiH part 1 were remastered. I quite like the new Sunglare, and Luna City is gorgeous. Kudos to the team, again.

[SF-Junky]

It is the Toutatis in the ending sequence. It was there being retrofitted with the big mass drivers you see.

Though I must say I can't see that these would have any tactical impact to speak about at this point. I know not to interpret too much into table files, the weaponry could easily change until the next release, but two Narayana Mass Drivers don't look very impressive to me, compared to the sheer amounts of ****load a Solaris can already release with standard armament.

[Crybertrance]

It is the Toutatis in the ending sequence. It was there being retrofitted with the big mass drivers you see.

Though I must say I can't see that these would have any tactical impact to speak about at this point. I know not to interpret too much into table files, the weaponry could easily change until the next release, but two Narayana Mass Drivers don't look very impressive to me, compared to the sheer amounts of ****load a Solaris can already release with standard armament.

I think the Narayana MD's are just placeholders. I think we are going to see a MassDriver#Solaris in he next release...Those are going to make you wish you were never born!