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Offline SypheDMar

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
I remember lots of tech room text and in-game dialog saying they're for artificial gravity (though maybe that's changed since last I checked -- the wiki still mentions "centrifugal" power generation. :wtf:)
Yeah... battuta exploded when he read that. Apparently not supposed to be there.

 

Offline Qent

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Yes, the AoA Karuna violated thermodynamics by using its rotator for power generation.  That's what Shambhala is: a huge assembly of rotators powering a giant beam cannon.
* Qent recently took up playing Dwarf Fortress, and this idea makes way too much sense.

 
Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
they're gyroscopes designed to make uef ships turn slower so they're not overpowered
The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine man in the bonds of Hell.

 
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What's a girlfriend
here's a clue: she fills your heart, empties your wallet...  :p

 

Offline An4ximandros

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 Links to Battuta's explosion, please.

 In the mean time... *goes to model a ship with a bajillion centrifuges*

  

Offline Flak

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I didn't know it was a power generator. I thought it was for artificial gravity or something like that.

 

Offline SypheDMar

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Links to Battuta's explosion, please.

 In the mean time... *goes to model a ship with a bajillion centrifuges*
Well, explosion as in, he went, "that's not supposed to happen, o god it's not true!" I'll dig through link eventually.

e: Either I remembered it wrong, or there's another thread on it. The one I found has battuta calmly explain that it's not canon.
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=76556.msg1519871#msg1519871

e: Okay, he just denies that it's true at the very end of any centrifugal talk.

 

Offline Aesaar

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I didn't know it was a power generator. I thought it was for artificial gravity or something like that.
It's not, but the AoA tech description said it was.  Which violates thermodynamics, so the description was rewritten for WiH.  My bet is that it's used for gravity because it uses less power than the other way articial gravity is generated.

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

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As far as I'm concerned, it's "if it rotates, it does science". Simple and catchy enough.
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you know i'm amazed overall that battuta can stay sane at all trying to write hard sci-fi on top of freespace gameplay
The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine man in the bonds of Hell.

 

Offline redsniper

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The spinning sections are melee anti-fighter weapons.
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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
you know i'm amazed overall that battuta can stay sane at all trying to write hard sci-fi on top of freespace gameplay

Modding itself can have it's toll on sanity, at least temporarily ;)

It is definitely fascinating to see just how much detail is being put into all of this, definitely makes the experience even better, more believable even.
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Offline An4ximandros

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I wanted to post a link to Belisarius' "War in Heaven" with the YT tags and make a clever terrible joke about 'Tutta, but no one has uploaded the damn song there yet. :mad: :mad: :mad:

 

Offline Luis Dias

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Why don't you upload it yourself?

 

Offline AtomicClucker

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you know i'm amazed overall that battuta can stay sane at all trying to write hard sci-fi on top of freespace gameplay

I think choosing to write hard sci-fi robbed him of sanity to begin with. Now, I fear some of that may come back to haunt us in the next release.
Blame Blue Planet for my Freespace2 addiction.

 

Offline Luis Dias

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What the hell are you guys talking about. You might think this hard sci fi is too crazy for you, but could you please not project your fears unto other people's psyches? It's not like sci-fi thinking is some Ctuhluh cult of madness.

 

Offline AtomicClucker

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What the hell are you guys talking about. You might think this hard sci fi is too crazy for you, but could you please not project your fears unto other people's psyches? It's not like sci-fi thinking is some Ctuhluh cult of madness.

\o/

You know that mission with the platforms? Yeah. That's madness.
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Offline Klaustrophobia

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What the hell are you guys talking about. You might think this hard sci fi is too crazy for you, but could you please not project your fears unto other people's psyches? It's not like sci-fi thinking is some Ctuhluh cult of madness.
um..... what the hell are YOU talking about?

they are commenting on the inherent difficulty of forcing a relatively "realistic" set of sci-fi rules into an already established universe that frankly didn't give a flying **** about them and not contradict said established canon. 

now whats all this about projecting fears?  :eek2:
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Offline qwadtep

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you know i'm amazed overall that battuta can stay sane at all trying to write hard sci-fi on top of freespace gameplay

I think choosing to write hard sci-fi robbed him of sanity to begin with. Now, I fear some of that may come back to haunt us in the next release.
The Great Darkness is actually Battuta throwing his hands up and declaring everything since the Terran-Vasudan War to be one long Nagari sequence.

 

Offline SypheDMar

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
What the hell are you guys talking about. You might think this hard sci fi is too crazy for you, but could you please not project your fears unto other people's psyches? It's not like sci-fi thinking is some Ctuhluh cult of madness.
Klaustrophobia is right. You misinterpreted. Put it simply, people are amazed at how "hard" (also read: awesome) BP is compared to how "soft" FS1 and FS2 are. They're also praising battuta's organ.