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Offline LapsedPacifist

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
On 3.7.1 BP (from the BP installer) at least it falls over giving an error message about species countermeasures, not that surprisingly given that similar errors have been seen elsewhere. I assume it would work with a BP patched nightly, or more recent build but don't have time to try it right now.

 
Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Blue Planet works fine,passed all missions,even with 2014 media vps,no compatibillity needed,just change mod.ini

 

Offline blowfish

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Were you running a debug build?  Release builds may hide minor issues that would still count as incompatibility.

 
Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Works fine on both debug and normal build.

 

Offline Kolgena

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Is there a way for custom tbm's for 2D radar icons to NOT overwrite glowpoint lights? Right now, a tbm with these entries:

$Name:       GTF Aurora
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$Radar Image 2D:          radar-fighter


will cause the existing entry's glowpoint_overrides to disappear. Preferably, I'd like a fix that doesn't involve manually copy-pasting the glowpoint overrides into the 2D radar table.

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Your tbm has a different name than the one containing the glowpoint overrides, right?
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Offline Kolgena

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Yes. Should it be the same?

 
Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Greeting everyone!
So I wanted to see how do new MediaVP's look like, and ended up replaying the whole Blue Planet. Or rather almost the whole - Universal Truth 2 fails to load. The log is here: http://pastebin.com/HmANcCv2
FSO's memory usage at the point of crash is 1.7-1.8GB, with a GB still free. I'll appreciate any help with the problem.

On the bright side, even without the benefit of surprise, WiH still manages to be even better than the first time I played it. This is especially true for Tenebra's gameplay, where taking a year-long break apparently does wonders for your perspective :) Anyway, just wanted to give a huge thank-you to you guys. Besides this and the two old bugs in Her Finest Hour I had no other problems in any of the three campaigns.
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Offline niffiwan

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Hrmm.. I've seen several "malloc failed" errors at that place in the logs, but normally with Intel cards.  Could you please try:

1) update your graphics card drivers

If that doesn't work or they are already up to date:

2) add the "-no_glsl" command line flag (Advanced Settings -> Troubleshoot -> Disable GLSL (shader) support

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Tried both, same error :/
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Offline Crybertrance

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Greeting everyone!
So I wanted to see how do new MediaVP's look like, and ended up replaying the whole Blue Planet. Or rather almost the whole - Universal Truth 2 fails to load. The log is here: http://pastebin.com/HmANcCv2
FSO's memory usage at the point of crash is 1.7-1.8GB, with a GB still free. I'll appreciate any help with the problem.

On the bright side, even without the benefit of surprise, WiH still manages to be even better than the first time I played it. This is especially true for Tenebra's gameplay, where taking a year-long break apparently does wonders for your perspective :) Anyway, just wanted to give a huge thank-you to you guys. Besides this and the two old bugs in Her Finest Hour I had no other problems in any of the three campaigns.

Ah yes... the good ole Malloc Failed on UT2 has returned! I also had this error on my playthrough of tenebra a long ways back (Just after release) and it is caused by:
Spoiler:
the huge HTL Sathanas fleet glassing Earth
somehow using the retail model doesnt give this error, but using the HTL (which is shipped with the 2014 MVPs) does cause it. At the time The_E's advice was to not use standalone HD Models as they were not supported, but now since the 2014 MVPs are standard issue now, I think it would be fair to ask to update that particular mission or something?

On another note, my theory is that the crash is due to less VRAM.... I have recently upgraded to a 2GB card (earlier had 1GB VRAM), I'll try to see if the crash still occurs.

E: Just tried out the mission (CTrl-Shift-S) and it works flawlessly. Nothing else has changed in my system save for the video card upgrade. So I guess it is a VRAM issue?
« Last Edit: January 13, 2014, 02:58:34 am by Crybertrance »
<21:08:30>   Hartzaden fires a slammer at Cybertrance
<21:09:13>   Crybertrance pops flares, but wonders how Hartzaden acquired aspect lock on a stealth fighter... :\
<21:11:58>   *** The_E joined #bp [email protected]
21:11:58   +++ ChanServ has given op to The_E
<21:12:58>   Hartzaden continues to paint crybertrance and feeding the info to a wing of gunships
<21:14:07>   Crybertrance sends emergency "IM GETING MY ASS KICKED HERE!!!!eleventy NEED HELPZZZZ" to 3rd fleet command
<21:14:50>   Hartzaden jamms the transmission.
<21:14:51>   The_E explodes the sun

 

Offline niffiwan

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Well... I just tried UT2 from the techroom, with mediavps_2014, using my 1GB Nvidia GTS 450 and it loaded just fine. Still - what model of video card do you have, both the old & new?

Meneldil - maybe you could try with mediavps_3612 and see if the UT2 crash-when-loading problem still occurs?
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Offline The E

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
At the time The_E's advice was to not use standalone HD Models as they were not supported, but now since the 2014 MVPs are standard issue now, I think it would be fair to ask to update that particular mission or something?

When it comes time to make the next patch (sometime after the new installer has gone live, I reckon), BP will be tested and dependant on the 2014 MVPs.
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Offline Luis Dias

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
that seems like a smart approach :yes:

 
Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Meneldil - maybe you could try with mediavps_3612 and see if the UT2 crash-when-loading problem still occurs?
Aghh... that's the first thing i thought i tried, but i forgot to check what the launcher was loading: it needed a restart after changing the mod.ini file.
And yeah, the mission loads just fine with the old mediavp's, and i have a 512MB card. So Cybertrance is probably right on all accounts. Thanks for the help, guys!
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Huh. I wonder if we'll have to pack the old Sathanas model and give it a separate table entry, then use it in that mission.

 
Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
If you want me to, i can check if it's only the Sathanas that's causing the problem (although i guess it has to be), just tell me what to extract and where to override the new one.
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Offline An4ximandros

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Huh. I wonder if we'll have to pack the old Sathanas model and give it a separate table entry, then use it in that mission.
Can't you make a separate table that uses the Lod models after 0?

  

Offline Crybertrance

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Well... I just tried UT2 from the techroom, with mediavps_2014, using my 1GB Nvidia GTS 450 and it loaded just fine. Still - what model of video card do you have, both the old & new?


The old one was a 1GB HD 5770
New one is a 2GB HD 7870

Huh. I wonder if we'll have to pack the old Sathanas model and give it a separate table entry, then use it in that mission.

Aww... Well if it has to be done for legacy issues than fine, but I must say, dem HD Sathies look freaking awesome in UT2!

If you want me to, i can check if it's only the Sathanas that's causing the problem (although i guess it has to be), just tell me what to extract and where to override the new one.

First thing you could do, is simply try the old (3612) mediavps and report any crashing (or lack thereof).
« Last Edit: January 13, 2014, 12:05:44 pm by Crybertrance »
<21:08:30>   Hartzaden fires a slammer at Cybertrance
<21:09:13>   Crybertrance pops flares, but wonders how Hartzaden acquired aspect lock on a stealth fighter... :\
<21:11:58>   *** The_E joined #bp [email protected]
21:11:58   +++ ChanServ has given op to The_E
<21:12:58>   Hartzaden continues to paint crybertrance and feeding the info to a wing of gunships
<21:14:07>   Crybertrance sends emergency "IM GETING MY ASS KICKED HERE!!!!eleventy NEED HELPZZZZ" to 3rd fleet command
<21:14:50>   Hartzaden jamms the transmission.
<21:14:51>   The_E explodes the sun

 

Offline Crybertrance

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
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<21:08:30>   Hartzaden fires a slammer at Cybertrance
<21:09:13>   Crybertrance pops flares, but wonders how Hartzaden acquired aspect lock on a stealth fighter... :\
<21:11:58>   *** The_E joined #bp [email protected]
21:11:58   +++ ChanServ has given op to The_E
<21:12:58>   Hartzaden continues to paint crybertrance and feeding the info to a wing of gunships
<21:14:07>   Crybertrance sends emergency "IM GETING MY ASS KICKED HERE!!!!eleventy NEED HELPZZZZ" to 3rd fleet command
<21:14:50>   Hartzaden jamms the transmission.
<21:14:51>   The_E explodes the sun