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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Ok I found a major issue in Freespace Blue. The Support ship does not repair damaged systems. In one mission I had my sensors and comms destroyed but I called the support ship twice and it did nothing so I'm kinda useless, especially since its a nebula.

 

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
This is a bug! Fortunately, it was already found, so expect a Nightly Build with the fix shortly.
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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Yep, that's a code bug (that's apparently been around a few years!) It got fixed tonight.

 

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
In my Intelligence section the articles "The Rift - I" and "The Rift - II" are blank... at least during AoA. I'm crrently at the mission "Keepers of Hell".

 

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
A patch has been released. Please run the installer, or update bpc-core, bpc-fs2blue, bpc-visuals1, bpc-visuals2, bpc-visuals4 and the advanced packs.
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Tell me if countermeasures feel markedly less effective, either for yourself or others.

 

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Would it be possible for the individual package links in the release thread to have a line next to each indicating the last time it was updated?  Perhaps another post further down in the thread showing what is updated as well?
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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
We could, but given that the installer will auto-update for you, I'm not sure it's necessary.

 
Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
I have been long delayed in playing this new release, but I'm starting up again. So far I've re-played AoA. Loving what I'm seeing so far, although I am a little disappointed in the change in BGM for the finale.

I haven't noticed any bugs, but the Launcher complains when I start it up. 14 errors, apparently. Debug build doesn't fully launch the game, but also spits an error.

Log attached.

EDIT: Oh, you just released a patch. I'll update and try it again.

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
None of our releases, pre or post any patch, have had errors on launch in release. If you've got those your install is messed up somehow.

Looking at your log, you forgot to follow the big red instructions in the release post to download and use a new build!

 
Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Probably. Sorry about that, I'll correct it. :p
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I just saw the Sathanas' main FLAK come off after being destroyed. That's so cool  :yes:

 

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
One thing I should note is that with this recent patch, we've reconverted some of our textures to DXT1 in order to speed up loading times (there's a technical reason for this to do with how the engine handles transparency and how, due to years upon years of this being a hacked-in solution, the textures used determine how long a model takes to load). This has an unfortunate sideeffect in that some textures will look worse, most notably on the Erebus and Titan. I am investigating solutions to this, but for the moment, we will prioritize load times and decreased memory usage over overall quality.
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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
We could, but given that the installer will auto-update for you, I'm not sure it's necessary.
The only installer I use is for FS2 itself.  I do manual downloads all the time.
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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Ah, found it.
So... it carries SSMs, and antimatter-pumped beam warheads, and commands drone wings, and has multiple other gadgets on top of just having the greatest armor and four turrets? I'm scaroused.


I just found that tech entry.  I am legitimately terrified of this thing.

 
Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Well, I'm not getting any errors on start-up now. That's the good news.

Bad news is that on resource-intensive missions (currently on Rheza Station), I'm getting some severe input lag from keyboard commands. I've tried fiddling with a bunch of graphical options to reduce system load, including removing the Advanced Effect VP's, but it doesn't seem to be making a difference.

Using build 3.7.3-SSE2-20151103-0ea25e7. The newer Nightly builds seem to have some disagreement with the launchers (both 5.5g and the wxLauncher) and cause them to hang when trying to load the build.

Not sure if an fs2_open.log is relevant or useful in this situation, but I'm posting it anyway (it's from my most recent attempt, w/o the Advanced VP's).

Really hoping this isn't just my computer finally reaching the end of its ability. I really do not have the funds right now to buy a new one. :sigh:

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
That log was taken with a 3.7.2 debug build. BP needs a recent nightly.
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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Dammit, I posted the old one. :banghead:

I'm trying to select the debug build for the 3.7.3 build I have been using, but the Launcher keeps freezing up whenever I try to change it over (the same problem as the recent Nightly builds are giving me).
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Are you sure it's not just your antivirus analysing the new exe? Let it run for a while.
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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
If it's that, the antivirus is being 100x slower at analyzing it than any other program it's ever looked at.

On a whim, tried launching the Debug build manually, rather than going through the launcher. Nothing happens. There's a process created, but I can't seem to kill it in any way.

Could it be a corrupted file? Maybe I'll try re-downloading.
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