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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The FRED Workshop => Topic started by: ShadowGorrath on October 11, 2008, 09:20:09 am
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END WAR
(http://www.deviantart.com/download/100409488/Crashed_Shivan_Juggernaut_by_Councilor.jpg)
Image created by Councilor (http://councilor.deviantart.com/art/Crashed-Shivan-Juggernaut-100409488)
"Another 32 years have passed since the Shivans vanished once more, but the scar left by the Second Shivan Incursion still haunts us during the night. It looks at both Terrans and Vasudans from afar, a grim reminder of the power of the Great Destroyers.
The horrors of the Second Shivan Incursion, however, has done us more good than bad, it seems, for we have found a way home. But that wasn't all. With the death of Capella, so fell the evil from within us.
Now with the bonds between our species growing stronger with each passing moment, and the reunion with our long lost ancestral home, Sol, we can finally begin dreaming of a better future. We will do so no matter the cost, because now, we will fight for the last time to ensure the eternal existence of our species. We will begin the last struggle for survival. We will start our final fight.
The End War will begin soon."
Author's comments:
This is it, everyone. This is that secret mod I've been talking about. The End War. I have been working on this for some time now. Had ideas of this for a much longer time though.
Development report 1:
Quite a few missions are already planned. Interface is in the works. Most of the new next-generation fleets are in-game already aswell. All of the new weapons are in-game aswell, and just need a bit of tweaking.
Screenshots:
What's a mod without screenies? Some of you already saw some screenshots in the 'Celebration of FreeSpace' thread. However, since my PC is really old, I'm afraid I cannot make a lot of new screenshots quickly. So you'll have to be satisfied with these for now :) .
Lvlshot tags used
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The others can be seen HERE (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,25406.msg1144005.html#msg1144005)
Interface and other art by Councilor:
You can see his Deviantart profile HERE (http://councilor.deviantart.com)
Other art for the mod, by him, can also be seen HERE (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,56733.0.html)
Closing words:
Ok, first of all, don't worry of the Ancient-Shivan War. It's just going slower than usuall from the lack of time and motivation. So motivate me, and I'll find more time for it ( I hope ).
Secondly, keep watching these forums for updates. I have another thing planned to show for you. All you have to do is be patient ;)
Lastly, I want your comments.
Well, that is all for now. I hope you enjoyed this modest announcement of my modification for FreeSpace2 SCP. :)
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Is the HTL Sath in-game or only for cutscenes?
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Very nice ;)
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Interesting.
The premise and time period are roughly similar to FOW...lol :)
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The premise and time period are roughly similar to FOW...lol :)
It's also roughly similar to ED, BP, INF and MT... :nervous:
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Is the HTL Sath in-game or only for cutscenes?
I'm working on the lower poly version of that sath, hopefully it will be in-game.
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The premise and time period are roughly similar to FOW...lol :)
It's also roughly similar to ED, BP, INF and MT... :nervous:
With INF? How? Sol and the GTVA are at each others throats. There was no peaceful reunion.
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Eh, what I meant is the whole reunion with Sol thing.
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If you call that similar, then all campaigns are similar. They all have ships and weaponz!!! :eek2: :eek2:
BP has Earth destroyed by the Lucifer. No happy reunion.
INF has a war between Sol and GTVA.
ED has something similar IIRC.
Heck, this is the only campaign that I can think off the top of my head (excluding mine) in which Earth and GTVA had a peaceful, happy reunion.
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If you call that similar, then all campaigns are similar. They all have ships and weaponz!!! :eek2: :eek2:
Yeah! They all ripped off INF R1! Even the ones that came before it!
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In Steadfast there's a peaceful reunion between EA and GTVA... :nervous:
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In Steadfast there's a peaceful reunion between EA and GTVA... :nervous:
I wouldn't call my planned handling of this exactly peaceful, but not because of anything Earth or the GTVA is doing to each other.
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Oh, I see...what about NTV's NTF and GTVA? :nervous:
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That crashed Sath is now my wallpaper :D.
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Ahh, so this was the 'secret project'. :D
Just making sure I read that right, so the GTVAs taking the fight to the Shivans? 'bout time
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Tom Clancy's Shivans!
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will it include voice-acting?
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I guess it will if it succeeds like Blue Planet. :)
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Sounds like this will be like the Centuar Project, except that they'll actually have the guts to take the fight to the enemy. :D
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Is the HTL Sath in-game or only for cutscenes?
I'm working on the lower poly version of that sath, hopefully it will be in-game.
I would love it if you'd release both a Cutscene-quality and a game-quality version of the Sath.
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I won't release the cutscene quality model to the public, it'll go staright into my portfolio and even if it's going to be released, it have to be come with a very high price. However the game quality will be contributed to the HLP, probably and hopefully as the FSU content.
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Excellent news: a hypophesis regarding the last fight between us and the shivans. That's something I've been long aching for!
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END WAR
(http://www.deviantart.com/download/100409488/Crashed_Shivan_Juggernaut_by_Councilor.jpg)
Image created by Councilor (http://councilor.deviantart.com/art/Crashed-Shivan-Juggernaut-100409488)
"Another 32 years have passed since the Shivans vanished once more, but the scar left by the Second Shivan Incursion still haunts us during the night. It looks at both Terrans and Vasudans from afar, a grim reminder of the power of the Great Destroyers.
The horrors of the Second Shivan Incursion, however, has done us more good than bad, it seems, for we have found a way home. But that wasn't all. With the death of Capella, so fell the evil from within us.
Now with the bonds between our species growing stronger with each passing moment, and the reunion with our long lost ancestral home, Sol, we can finally begin dreaming of a better future. We will do so no matter the cost, because now, we will fight for the last time to ensure the eternal existence of our species. We will begin the last struggle for survival. We will start our final fight.
The End War will begin soon."
O.o Now that's one announcement...
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Sorry for the late reply, but might this MOD feature inferno super ships? Say super juggernauts or even the gargant hive?
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Inferno stuff is overkill. End War's ships and weapons are balanced, heavy upgrades of FS2 ones, and used with tactics. Inferno and End War are too different to compare. Gargant wouldn't appear here even if Inferno's team begged for that. Or at least, it wouldn't appear as immortal as in Inferno.
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Can I talk about the [classified] which is similar-ish?
Anyhow, the Gargant's not released IIRC so that's impossible.
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END WAR
(http://www.deviantart.com/download/100409488/Crashed_Shivan_Juggernaut_by_Councilor.jpg)
Image created by Councilor (http://councilor.deviantart.com/art/Crashed-Shivan-Juggernaut-100409488)
Now that's something I'd never though I would see ;7
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Permission granted, Adm. Droid803.
P.S. Cannot sleep.
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Using already made content, with editing them to be different, better or unique. I got around 50% of the mod pack complete.
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Too bad a project of such magnitude might take years to complete like INF and BWO. If not, then how can this go faster than the others?
As long as all the mods are ready, I don't see that being an issue.
...with the exception of feature creeping. Just don't do that.
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I already am feature creeping. That's exactly why it's been at 50% since the announcement.
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That's cause the mods aren't done yet...right?
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The Vasudan fleet isn't in. Terran is incomplete. Sol is missing 2 ships, Shivan ships need map tweaks. Then come the interface and all the other stuff. 50% left anyway, till FREDding.
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Riiight. Don't complaint if you don't offer help.
And ASW is in priority right now anyway.
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Ancient-Shivan War : www.sectorgame.com/ASW
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Well actually I always got disappointed at the gargant being so... Unstoppable. Perhaps this'll change one day though.
And what's this classified ship then? :p
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Well, for starters, it's classified. Then, it's Shivan. That's all you're gonna hear for now.
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And... you're absolutely WRONG. Next?
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Bah, if they created a new ship or class we'll be miles to guessing what it is. I trust this ship is not any of the superships in inferno (or the dante, for that matter)?
Let's not spoil our fun.
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Found this on councilors page.
(http://fc96.deviantart.com/fs36/i/2008/278/a/9/Shivan_Juggernaut_showcase_by_Councilor.jpg)
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I thought everyone already knew about this?
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what is this? it looks like a revamped sathanas.
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It's the same one from the crashed Sath image. Just that this one isn't crashed.
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It's oversized though. It can't really be used in the MediaVPs because it would take refredding the ever popular DIVE! DIVE! DIVE! HIT YOUR BURNERS PILOT! mission.
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How so oversized? No: that can't be our super shivan vessel of doom, can it?
Also, funny how this one looks organic, almost a living being...
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A Sath is only 6 km long. Your average city (on earth) is about...10-20?
Towns are somewhat smaller, obviously.
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High Max, this is a teaser for a new campaign called End War which involves an attack upon the Shivans.
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It's teasing the fact that at some point in the campaign a Sathanas will go splat all over a planet. Possibly because the Shivans are getting their arses handed to them.
That's why it's a good teaser.
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I really like councilors sathanas. It looks really good 100%. Except that i'm not a fan of the new pincers councilors sathanas has. The vanilla sathanas has better looking pincers.
(http://fc26.deviantart.com/fs37/f/2008/279/f/3/Shivan_Juggernaut_Comparison_by_Councilor.jpg)
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I somewhat agree, also, I prefer the vanilla sath engines. Overall the vanilla sath is more "mechanical" which is the thing I like.
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I somewhat agree, also, I prefer the vanilla sath engines. Overall the vanilla sath is more "mechanical" which is the thing I like.
Y agree with that, also the ship looks a lot more lively on the vanilla version.
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I don't like how councilor made his new sath more organic looking. Personally his sath looks just great except for the four forward beams it's got. Those look so ****ty on his. Now, put shrink down to size his sath to be the same size as fs2 vanilla with vanilla sath styled pincers, and it'd be great. How councilor made the ass engines on his sath are great. Perhaps a little to orange glowing. In game just imagine those having the normal shivan mvp engine glows and it wouldn't be too bad.
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Given the size differential, it may not be a Sath -- could be an upgraded version. Or maybe I'm just wrong!
I think it looks fine as an artist's reinterpretation.
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(http://fc26.deviantart.com/fs37/f/2008/279/f/3/Shivan_Juggernaut_Comparison_by_Councilor.jpg)
Uhm, now I think it should be used as a Super Juggernaut rather than a new Sathanas. Resizing it would alter the mesh so it'd work better as a separate model.
What about "SSJ Morgoth"? :)
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They're pretty different from the ones we can see ingame or in the final cutscenes of FS2. That's why I suggested to consider this an SSJ. :)
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NO, you'll ruin the suspense.
If there is to be a shivan supership, let it be different than anything we might already know (IE: NOT a sath reskin).
Morgoth? Do you know "bang! gunship elite"? :lol:
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But let it be a sath similar. 5 pincers?
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We already have a lot of sath similar ships (mostly the arimtaya and the dante).
What about trying something different?
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NO, you'll ruin the suspense.
If there is to be a shivan supership, let it be different than anything we might already know (IE: NOT a sath reskin).
Morgoth? Do you know "bang! gunship elite"? :lol:
You have to admit, anyway, that the design is too big to be used as an HTL Sathanas. Modifying it in a radical way would be a waste of resources because IMO we can still use this model as an exclusive ship. As far as I'm concerned it could be a better version of the Sathanas just as sure as the Lilith is a better version of the Cain(please don't port their difference in terms of firepower :nervous:).
Morgoth? Do you know the Simlarillion? :p
We already have a lot of sath similar ships (mostly the arimtaya and the dante).
What about trying something different?
The Amritaya has been either scrapped or replaced and the Dante isn't that similar to the Sathanas.
As I said above we can have two similar Shivan juggernauts because we already have two similar Shivan cruisers - the Cain and the Lilith.
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What about "SSJ Morgoth"? :)
Silly name. How about SSJ LordOfTheRingsReference?
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It's not as common as other names. Think about a nice name for a juggernaut, then... :rolleyes:
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SSJ Dagon? It should be named after some mythological demon IMO.
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Vassago - the prince of hell.
Oh wait, it's used for another ship class.
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It has to be one hell of a name with a direct reference to the Devil, like Lucifer or Sathanas. Other names wouldn't work, IMO. For instance I don't like Gigas because, IMO, it isn't evil enough.
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Gigas does sound evil enough to me, at least in my opinion. Gargant sounds more like a terran juggernaut though.
But isn't Vassago related to Devil, Lucifer or Sathanas? Afterall, Vassago is the prince of hell ( and one hell of a ship it is aswell ).
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He's the prince, not the king...
Also, Vassago isn't evil enough to me. It reminds Virago, which is a more balanced name...
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I find this discussion highly amusing.
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The offtopicness seems instructive though.
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They're pretty different from the ones we can see ingame or in the final cutscenes of FS2.
I believe that that Sath is based off the concept art Sathanas.
Which is probably why it doesn't look much like the one in game or in cutscene (which are very similar anyway).
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Instructive? No. I don't need any names for a juggernaut. Especially not that one.
It is based on the concept Sathanas.
All further information has been classified Level Omega until I get the superdestroyer :P
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That entire conversation was pointless and more than rather strange.
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Yeah, but its still amusing :D
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Leave it to Mobius to start a chain reaction of off-topic comments :D
:eek2:
I feel sorry for you now. :P
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Leave it to Mobius to start a chain reaction of off-topic comments :D
:eek2:
I feel sorry for you now. :P
What~?
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Mobius might take it upon himself to destroy High Max.
Given that both of them are rather sensitive, it might spiral out of control pretty fast.
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I'm sensitive sometimes in some ways, but if you knew me, you'd be surprised with my lack of sensitivity a lot of the time. Being lied to a lot and treated as unimportant by many people and people trying to use me in my life has taken its toll and made me not care so much about the human race as a whole and made me very mistrusting to people. But that has made me wiser and more careful. So there is a bright side.
Being both sensitive and insensitive means I stand up for myself normally and I care about certain good people and I love cats, but my other side feels that I don't care what others think about me even though I do depending on what it is. Meaning for example, they cannot change me and make me do what they want me to do if it is something that I feel is bad or I suspect them of using me. Even if it makes me alone, I don't care. "Better to be alone than spend time with a bad croud" is what I say often ;) That takes a strong mind to not let others control me like that or make me do things I shouldn't. Actually, for me, it is easy to resist them. I don't fear being alone. I would prefer to be around good people, but if I had only the choices of being with bad people or being alone, I am strong enough to choose being alone with no one close to me and never hug or anything with a person ever again. To feel lonely easily and get desperate easily shows weakness in the mind.
You hit the nail on the head for even what i consider a very good description of myself :yes: Your lack of sensitivity and carelessness for the world (except for your friends) will only increase. Yes more off topic.
This thread is sort of getting border line for lockage. Idk how to bring it back on topic either.
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How about... Actually, I need a Vasudan corvette and a terran super-bomber.
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Try Trashmans GTB Claymore for the bomber, its sexey but with only 1 secondary bank so its better of with anti-cap primaries.
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I'd suggest the GTTB Armageddon. Massive fly brick...with equally massive bombs of doom.
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How about... Actually, I need a Vasudan corvette and a terran super-bomber.
How about the Uriel (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/GTB_Uriel)? Would need new maps, of course.