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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Hades' Hemera and BP and stuff
The final, worst case contingency for a third shivan incursion is mass exodus. With the firepower, adaptability, supplies and size of the Hemera, it could serve as a high end refugee transport. It could supplement freighter/transport/medi-frigate convoys with warship escorts in a fine manner by supplying, repairing, serving as a mini-carrier and absorbing a lot more punishment than something like an argo.
Just a thought.

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Re: Hades' Hemera and BP and stuff
The final, worst case contingency for a third shivan incursion is mass exodus. With the firepower, adaptability, supplies and size of the Hemera, it could serve as a high end refugee transport. It could supplement freighter/transport/medi-frigate convoys with warship escorts in a fine manner by supplying, repairing, serving as a mini-carrier and absorbing a lot more punishment than something like an argo.
Just a thought.

that just made me think on a tangent point, how do the capabilities of the GTVA logistics ships compare to the Sanctuary?
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Re: Hades' Hemera and BP and stuff
Sanctuary would be the next level up. A GTL would be best used as part of a (rag-tag/migrant) fleet keeping ships from falling apart. Sanctuary is meant to do everything (fuel processing, mining, food production) by itself, forever alone.

 
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Where do the Gef Hephaestus-class vessels come in on that lise?
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Those are still in beta.

 

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The final, worst case contingency for a third shivan incursion is mass exodus.
Should we enter this into the list of possibilities of what Contingency MORPHEUS is?

 

Offline An4ximandros

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Wait... wasn't the Sanctuary a sleeper ship? MORPHEUS might be something like that, a fleet of sleeper Civilian ships...

 
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Would be a very odd strategy given what MORPHEUS is meant to fight.
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An overwhelming force?

 

Offline crizza

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Ih, you know that Morpheus was sometimes refered to as the god of...passing away while sleeping?
Maybe they have a final solution(god I hate this word) for wasting the whole population while not damaging the infrastructure...

 
Re: Hades' Hemera and BP and stuff
Sanctuary would be the next level up. A GTL would be best used as part of a (rag-tag/migrant) fleet keeping ships from falling apart. Sanctuary is meant to do everything (fuel processing, mining, food production) by itself, forever alone.

Yeah, though the Sanctuary doesn't seem to be as capable at effective/efficient repairs for other warships, or for storing lots of munitions/replacement parts on the level of a battlegroup (though I guess swapping out the cryo-stasis sections for those functions would solve that problem).

So I guess that whereas the Sanctuary is fully self-sufficient (if less effective against craft than a single Aeolus, and hardly any anti-ship capability to speak of), destroyer-sized vessel, the Anemoi is not self-sufficient but far more capable at servicing an entire battlegroup at a rapid pace for an extended time period (but far from indefinitely, especially in prolonged intense action). One is a much better asset for war and shorter-but-intense operations while the other can maintain a slow jog for itself and a few smaller ships for decades.

An overwhelming force?

I got the impression that MORPHEUS is all about resisting the Shivans or Vishnans on a subspace/Nagari level, or countering a vulnerability in that area.

Remember, Steele's mindset/frequent thought in 'Ken' is "They sneak in through your dreams ... they can't get in if you shut them out" [approx.]; coupled with the unusual, year-long period of total silence from the Vishnans in Sol (with the Elders/UEF, as well as the Tevs), it seems like a Nagari-cancelling/jamming capability of some sort is in the works. Chances are that it would (in the near-future, at least) only work on a general, large scale (where it doesn't completely block all Nagari stuff, but severely curtails it and, in a sense, 'blockades' it in a given system.

And IIRC, Morpheus was the god of sleeping/dreams. I don't recall a specific mention about passing away in one's sleep.
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Offline Aesaar

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But what does in entail?  "It's a nightmare you don't get to wake up from." 

I get the feeling that the line "The Elders think we've crossed the threshold.  For good this time.", the "second chance" Ken speaks of, and Contingency MORPHEUS are related.  Either MORPHEUS caused the first two, or it's the GTVA Security Council's contingency should they reach a similar conclusion as the Elders (more likely).

We don't know much about what the GTVA knows about the Shivans, Vishnans, and Nagari, so it's difficult to speculate about what MORPHEUS is, but you just know big things are about to happen.  What I am sure of is that it's directly related to the real reason the GTVA went to war with the UEF.
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Don't forget to add the "Something unspeakably terrible would occur within the next fifty years" from the Jester to that list.
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Ending plot twist:

 The Vasudans and almost all of humanity will be exterminated by the Shivans except for the Sanctuary and a few more ships, they will flee to the corners of known space to hide in nebulae...

 To be found by Samuel Bei The Second, who will take them to his universe...

 After many failures the Vishnans finally piece it all together to get them to a universe where humanity can achieve it's true potential...

 Then BP3 happens, no place to run to, no contingencies, final destination. :D It's Carl or nothing.

 

Offline Luis Dias

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Yeaaah, I've seen Groundhog day too many times by now.

 

Offline crizza

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Hm, damn shame, the english Triviapedia doesn't mention the part about Morpheus being not only being the god of dreams, but the dieing in your sleep thing too.