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Offline Su-tehp

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Reply #20 on: November 07, 2002, 11:48:15 pm
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Originally posted by StratComm
That'd make sense, becaue the Colossus was classified Rho, and there is no way it was super-secret.  I mean, honestly, how does one build a six kilometer long ship without a lot of people knowing about it?  Perhaps the lower levels (alpha, beta, ..., xi) aren't used though.


Colossus wasn't that secret at all. Emperor Khonsu even made a public announcement about the start of the Colossus construction in 2345, on the tenth aniversary of the attack on Ross 128. Remember the Colossus cutscene? :cool:
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Offline Sesquipedalian

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Reply #21 on: November 08, 2002, 12:10:01 am
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Originally posted by StratComm
That'd make sense, becaue the Colossus was classified Rho, and there is no way it was super-secret.  I mean, honestly, how does one build a six kilometer long ship without a lot of people knowing about it?  Perhaps the lower levels (alpha, beta, ..., xi) aren't used though.
Probably true.
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Offline vadar_1

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Reply #22 on: November 08, 2002, 12:52:42 am
I think it was only the movie that was clasified level rho, because it did have supposid schematics of the colossus, not just her capabilities and the fact she existed.
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Offline CP5670

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Reply #23 on: November 08, 2002, 01:43:56 am
Most highly-classified military secrets seem to be designated by the last couple of letters; there is level upsilon (sathanas specs), level phi (Kappa 3 transmission), level psi (Mara specs when it was first encountered in the Vigilant attack) and level omega (shivan commnode).

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And for a bonus point, say how many letters are used in science, and for what!


I can give where they are all used in math; almost every one is used somewhere in special function analysis... :D
 

Offline Su-tehp

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Reply #24 on: November 08, 2002, 01:46:24 am
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Originally posted by vadar_1
I think it was only the movie that was clasified level rho, because it did have supposid schematics of the colossus, not just her capabilities and the fact she existed.


Yeah, that makes sense. If you can't keep the existence of a ship being created by a couple dozen contractors secret (especially since the Vasudan Emperor mentions it publicly), at least keep its schematics under classified security.
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Offline diamondgeezer

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Reply #25 on: November 08, 2002, 05:41:07 am
I'd always assumed that the Colossus was secret. The Emperor probably made his speech in front of the contractors, maybe - in any case it was probably recorded for release when the Colossus was unvailed.

Do you not think that the big C would have been mentioned in the game? You know, "keep it up lads, just a couple of weeks till the Colossus comes to save us", etc. Knowing about the Colossus would have inspired the Allies to keep fighting during the darkest days of the rebellion. However, it never got mentioned at all.

Now, presumably Bosch knew about it. Did he a) try to saboage it and fail, b) ignore it, knowing that he couldn't do anything about it anyway or c) he didn't think they'd get it online so fast...
 

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Reply #26 on: November 08, 2002, 08:49:47 am
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Now, presumably Bosch knew about it. Did he a) try to saboage it and fail, b) ignore it, knowing that he couldn't do anything about it anyway or c) he didn't think they'd get it online so fast...


I think maybe c) was involved. Maybe they rushed the final stages of construction and testing. You know the sort of thing there's 5 years left until we launch the thing but, oh look the NTF have just sprung up, lets work a bit harder to finnishes they thing ahead of time.

And also remember that Bosch wasn't intrestted in controlling a few NTF worlds. He was using the NTF so he could find and activate the Knossos and contact the Shivans. For all he cared the Big C could destroy the NTF, so long as he contacted the Shivans.

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Do you not think that the big C would have been mentioned in the game?  


I think maybe that was more of a game surprise issue. On the other hand how would they get in a reference without it sounding like it was crowbared in. Then again maybe everyone knew that the Big C was soon to be ready. OK that last point is a bit silly and I don't believe it myself, but it does have to be pointed out.


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I'd always assumed that the Colossus was secret


I always assumed that the Big C wasn't secret at least in the fact that it was being build etc. Design secrets, turret numbers etc would be kept under wraps etc. After all, a project like the Big C is a great moral booster.

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Offline aldo_14

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Reply #27 on: November 08, 2002, 08:55:44 am
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Reply #28 on: November 08, 2002, 09:18:12 am
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Gunboats were my favorite Imperial Vessel!  Armed like an assault craft, flies like a fighter! W00t! :)


bah, ph34r the power of the TIE Advanced! w00t.

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Offline diamondgeezer

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Reply #29 on: November 08, 2002, 12:18:17 pm
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Originally posted by Tar-Palantir
For all he cared the Big C could destroy the NTF, so long as he contacted the Shivans


So, pretty much option b, then :)

I mean, :v: could have made some great missions using the run up to the Colossus deployment... imagine defending the construction yards, or holding out at an outpost under a massive NTF attack, knowing that the Big C is about to rescue you if you can just hang on... you'd be waiting to see the NTF ****e themselves as your uber-warship drops out of warp and opens a can of whup-ass...
 

Offline Sesquipedalian

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Reply #30 on: November 08, 2002, 03:09:39 pm
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So, pretty much option b, then :)

I mean, :v: could have made some great missions using the run up to the Colossus deployment... imagine defending the construction yards, or holding out at an outpost under a massive NTF attack, knowing that the Big C is about to rescue you if you can just hang on... you'd be waiting to see the NTF ****e themselves as your uber-warship drops out of warp and opens a can of whup-ass...

Sounds like a good mini-campaign.
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Reply #31 on: November 09, 2002, 07:19:13 am
mabey someone posted this,(im too lazy) but this is from the fs2 ref guide


Wing Names  
  * = indicates a regular wing name

Terran
(Greek Alphabet)
Alpha *
Beta *
Gamma *
Delta *
Epsilon *
Zeta *
Eta
Theta *
Iota
Kappa *
Lambda
Mu
Nu
Xi
Omicron
Pi
Rho
Sigma
Tau
Upsilon
Phi
Chi
Psi
Omega *
 

Vasudan
(Zodiac Signs)
Cancer *
Leo
Virgo *
Libra
Scorpio *
Sagittarius
Capricorn
Aquarius
Pisces *
Aries *
Taurus *
Gemini
 

Shivan
(Hindu Gods)
Brahma
Vishnu *
Shiva *
Saraswati
Lakshmi
Parvati
Durga
Venkateshwara
Satyanarayana
Rama *
Krishna *
Gauri
Karikeya
Gayatri
Ganesh
Hanuman
Dyaus
Varuna *
Indra
Surya
Savitar
Soma
Agni
Vayu
Ushas
Arjuna *
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Offline Su-tehp

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Reply #32 on: November 09, 2002, 11:19:42 am
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Originally posted by Hippo
mabey someone posted this,(im too lazy) but this is from the fs2 ref guide


Wing Names  
  * = indicates a regular wing name

Terran
(Greek Alphabet)
Alpha *
Beta *
Gamma *
Delta *
Epsilon *
Zeta *
Eta
Theta *
Iota
Kappa *
Lambda
Mu
Nu
Xi
Omicron
Pi
Rho
Sigma
Tau
Upsilon
Phi
Chi
Psi
Omega *
 

Vasudan
(Zodiac Signs)
Cancer *
Leo
Virgo *
Libra
Scorpio *
Sagittarius
Capricorn
Aquarius
Pisces *
Aries *
Taurus *
Gemini
 

Shivan
(Hindu Gods)
Brahma
Vishnu *
Shiva *
Saraswati
Lakshmi
Parvati
Durga
Venkateshwara
Satyanarayana
Rama *
Krishna *
Gauri
Karikeya
Gayatri
Ganesh
Hanuman
Dyaus
Varuna *
Indra
Surya
Savitar
Soma
Agni
Vayu
Ushas
Arjuna *


Yeah, these are the wing names from FS1; the Hindu ones were made obsolete in FS2.
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Offline diamondgeezer

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Reply #33 on: November 09, 2002, 11:24:05 am
Yep. Shame this is supposed to be discussion about something completely different, eh?
  

Offline Sesquipedalian

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Reply #34 on: November 09, 2002, 09:37:39 pm
:lol:
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