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Title: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Dilmah G on November 08, 2010, 08:24:40 pm: So guys, have you played it?

Looked quite decent from what I read, will definetely buy next Tuesday night after my last exam.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: General Battuta on November 08, 2010, 08:26:50 pm: Got vaguely interested in it, mostly because of the amazing zombie mode intro (impersonations so perfect!)

However everything I've heard suggests the single player story is amongst the shortest (5 hours) and crappiest yet, so...eh. Multiplayer's likely to be another Modern Warfare mod, and with Bad Company 2 around taking names, I'm not sold.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Dilmah G on November 08, 2010, 08:32:36 pm: Really? I was reading some of the reviews earlier today whilst I was at school *studying* and some reported it to be among the better end of the COD storylines.

Either way, I was kinda hyped about this one.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: General Battuta on November 08, 2010, 08:34:40 pm: I don't know. I may pick it up on a Steam sale. I've heard a lot of negative buzz about the story in comments threads and stuff...we'll see.

I do like that they toned down the incredible stupidity of MW2's multiplayer. It took a while for the playerbase to optimize builds like sprint extended-mag shotguns or heartbeat sensor campertrons, but god, combine those with the killstreaks and it was just rage-inducing.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Swifty on November 08, 2010, 10:15:15 pm: The TV spot is amazing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pblj3JHF-Jo
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Dilmah G on November 08, 2010, 10:18:17 pm: :lol:

Hahaha! That's actually the best multiplayer ad I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Herra Tohtori on November 08, 2010, 11:08:23 pm: Was that Gordon Freeman at the Huey minigun? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pblj3JHF-Jo#t=0m18s) :lol:
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: carbine7 on November 09, 2010, 12:08:41 am: You know, my Robotics teacher looks almost exactly like Gordan Freeman.....

Anyways, yeah, I've read a few reviews and all have said that the story is actually the best of all of the CoDs. There only major recurring complaint about the SP that I've noticed is gripes about level design.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: MR_T3D on November 09, 2010, 12:09:51 am: MW2 disgusted me and I will never trust IW.
but man, this game, with the explosive nerfs, removal of stopping power, attempts at weapon balance, the SPLITSCREEN ONLINE HELL YEAH, the zombies, man, this game is going to get plenty of my attention when I play.

that TV advert was flippin sweat, too.

well, back to studying the equally exciting world of fast adders and VHDL code
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Nemesis6 on November 09, 2010, 12:06:12 pm: Meh, just another cookie-cutter console shooter. I'll pass.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Demitri on November 09, 2010, 12:26:49 pm: Is it a continuation of the Modern Warfare storyline or something different?
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Scotty on November 09, 2010, 12:28:02 pm: I'm pretty sure it's something different, but I haven't played it yet, so no promise there.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: General Battuta on November 09, 2010, 12:32:16 pm: Something different. They don't have clear legal right to the Modern Warfare name or story right now. Different studio anyway.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Nuclear1 on November 09, 2010, 06:33:51 pm: Just picked it up today. I'll give it a play tonight.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 09, 2010, 07:39:54 pm: Quote from: Demitri on November 09, 2010, 12:26:49 pm
Is it a continuation of the Modern Warfare storyline or something different?

Besides, after the total trainwreck storyline of MW2 calling blank slate is pretty welcome.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Nuclear1 on November 10, 2010, 10:41:26 am: Quote from: Demitri on November 09, 2010, 12:26:49 pm
Is it a continuation of the Modern Warfare storyline or something different?

It's actually a sequel to World at War.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Turambar on November 10, 2010, 12:03:17 pm: (http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt24/_CARLOX_GFAQS/cod_360.jpg)
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Hades on November 10, 2010, 05:30:22 pm: God DAMN it they brought back the infinite enemy spawn bull**** from MW1.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: General Battuta on November 10, 2010, 05:32:35 pm: Yep. Push over the barrels, I keep hearing people say.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Nuclear1 on November 10, 2010, 08:12:25 pm: I've played through about half of the single-player campaign.

And while it's not much different than a typical first person shooter, it definitely has its moments story-wise. Definitely worth the investment.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: MR_T3D on November 10, 2010, 08:33:40 pm: I figure the games worth is MP and zombies.
both of which ARE FREAKING AWESOME
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Nuclear1 on November 11, 2010, 12:33:12 am: Ho.

Ly.

****.

Spoiler:
That was easily one of the best single-player stories I've played through in a long time. It was extremely difficult to see that twist coming.

Worth every penny.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Scooby_Doo on November 11, 2010, 01:05:12 am: Think I read on Anandtech there massive hiccup problems with it.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Charismatic on November 11, 2010, 04:31:41 pm: I hear good, and bad. Which is it ppl?
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Kszyhu on November 11, 2010, 06:06:59 pm: It depends. All I see is ridiculous amount of explosions with scripted waves of enemies, respawning infinitely if you stand in the wrong place.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Nuclear1 on November 11, 2010, 06:20:28 pm: The action is very much a typical FPS.

But it does have some fun missions and an extremely good storyline.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Titan on November 11, 2010, 06:23:38 pm: I have difficulty justifying any game that costs $60.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: General Battuta on November 11, 2010, 06:25:03 pm: Quote from: Titan on November 11, 2010, 06:23:38 pm
I have difficulty justifying any game that costs $60.

Assuming you mean (vs. $50) this argument is so stupid. Accounting for inflation game prices have dropped precipitously from 2000. $60 today is less than $50 then.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Titan on November 11, 2010, 06:28:11 pm: I don't pay more then $30 for a game is what I'm saying. I can't throw money at stuff like that. Which is why I'm not even going to consider this because I can't pay for it. That's not to say I don't have money, I have ~$400 saved up. It's just I can't pay for stuff like that.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Thaeris on November 11, 2010, 10:41:56 pm: Quote from: Titan on November 11, 2010, 06:28:11 pm
I don't pay more then $30 for a game is what I'm saying. I can't throw money at stuff like that. Which is why I'm not even going to consider this because I can't pay for it. That's not to say I don't have money, I have ~$400 saved up. It's just I can't pay for stuff like that.

I understand completely and share similar sentiments. Fortunately for us, the world is full of open source and freeware products.

:pimp:
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: General Battuta on November 11, 2010, 10:43:33 pm: I suppose this is the plight of people who don't pay for their own food.

When you are all grown up and have a job you'll find that the cost of any given game pales in comparison to what you'll spend weekly on necessities. Incomes are wonderful things, especially lucrative incomes secured by charisma and genius.

Don't get me wrong, I'm going to wait for the price to come down too - games are luxury purchases - but they're not exactly crippling.

By the way, get Steam - Steam sales are the #1 way to get games for absurdly low prices even close to release.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Mongoose on November 11, 2010, 11:20:55 pm: Hey, I'm all grown up yet don't have a job, so I have a foot in both pools. :p
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: achtung on November 12, 2010, 01:29:26 am: I have never gotten into CoD. Someone who is a fan tell me how it is superior to every other FPS so I will buy it and feel social again.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Dilmah G on November 12, 2010, 02:09:25 am: It has a few interesting things like the create a class, and character customization as well as kill streaks. But other than that, you're better off buying it if your friends are, and if you don't buy it, I don't think you'll be missing out on much. That said, I don't play many other FPS's apart from the mainstream Halo's and the very occasional CS.

Since COD is an obligatory purchase for all Australian teenage males, the money is going to walk outside of my wallet next Tuesday evening regardless. :D
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Titan on November 12, 2010, 09:00:51 am: Quote from: General Battuta on November 11, 2010, 10:43:33 pm
I suppose this is the plight of people who don't pay for their own food.

When you are all grown up and have a job you'll find that the cost of any given game pales in comparison to what you'll spend weekly on necessities. Incomes are wonderful things, especially lucrative incomes secured by charisma and genius.

Don't get me wrong, I'm going to wait for the price to come down too - games are luxury purchases - but they're not exactly crippling.

By the way, get Steam - Steam sales are the #1 way to get games for absurdly low prices even close to release.

It's $60 on Steam. Though I *DID* finally buy something on there - SupCom2 with the DLC for $8.50. It was fantastically dissapointing, even after everything bad I'd heard about it. :doubt: At any rate, it was fun for a few hours (when I unlocked the NOAH for the first time, I yelled "IT'S A GIANT GUN. THAT SHOOTS TANKS!!!"), and it unlocked all the community functions for me. Also, my parents never made me cough up the bills to cover it, so it was free.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: MP-Ryan on November 12, 2010, 12:21:32 pm: Quote from: General Battuta on November 11, 2010, 10:43:33 pm
By the way, get Steam - Steam sales are the #1 way to get games for absurdly low prices even close to release.

This.

I haven't paid full price for a game in 3 years. If it isn't at least 40% off, I wait. The Steam Holiday sale around Christmas is insane. I got Fallout 3 and all it's DLCs last year for something like $23.99... after picking up STALKER for $1.99.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Snail on November 12, 2010, 12:31:14 pm: Played for a few minutes, there was a demo at the store on a big screen
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Nemesis6 on November 12, 2010, 01:48:03 pm: Quote from: Snail on November 12, 2010, 12:31:14 pm
Played for a few minutes, there was a demo at the store on a big screen

Quickly tab A to dodge freedom-hater bullets? No wait, that's the other game... Still.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: mxlm on November 12, 2010, 04:55:03 pm: Quote from: General Battuta on November 11, 2010, 10:43:33 pm
By the way, get Steam - Steam sales are the #1 way to get games for absurdly low prices even close to release.
Not Call of Duty games, though. This franchise is hilariously resistant to price drops.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Swifty on November 12, 2010, 05:03:49 pm: Is it that hard to ask Infinity Ward and Treyarch to have more challenging enemies instead of just more enemies? I guess it's pretty difficult to withstanding a downpour of bullets from enemies who magically know where I always am but who the hell thinks this is fun? There's no room to maneuver and your enemies don't do anything than just stand there shooting relentlessly.

I wish for the next Call of Duty, Activision will just tell Infinity Ward to focus on multiplayer while they give the singleplayer component to a developer that actually knows how to do singleplayer combat well. Maybe they can put their recently forged partnership with Bungie to use.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Hades on November 12, 2010, 05:09:13 pm: Quote from: Swifty on November 12, 2010, 05:03:49 pm
Is it that hard to ask Infinity Ward and Treyarch to have more challenging enemies instead of just more enemies? I guess it's pretty difficult to withstanding a downpour of bullets from enemies who magically know where I always am but who the hell thinks this is fun? There's no room to maneuver and your enemies don't do anything than just stand there shooting relentlessly.

I wish for the next Call of Duty, Activision will just tell Infinity Ward to focus on multiplayer while they give the singleplayer component to a developer that actually knows how to do singleplayer combat well. Maybe they can put their recently forged partnership with Bungie to use.
I agree, it's been this way since CoD4 as I recall. The hostile AI sucks and the friendly AI sucks even worse.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Nuclear1 on November 12, 2010, 05:39:39 pm: Black Ops has convinced me that Infinity Ward needs to have Treyarch teach them how to make a sequel.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: StarSlayer on November 12, 2010, 06:12:57 pm: Quote from: Nuclear1 on November 12, 2010, 05:39:39 pm
Black Ops has convinced me that Infinity Ward needs to have Treyarch teach them how to make a sequel.

Didn't Activision pretty much slash and burn Infinity Ward anyway?
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Nuclear1 on November 13, 2010, 12:54:35 am: Eh, maybe it's for the better then.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: starwolf1991 on November 13, 2010, 07:02:28 am: Finished the campaign, and I have to agree, it does have its moments story wise. A few times, got stuck on parts almost impossible to pass. Blame the AI of course -- I always do. Other than that, I am very happy with Black Ops.

Out of curiosity, has anyone been able to listen to the music in the file archives? Windows treats it as a .wav, but its really a .wmf. Nothing I've tried will work. Shame really, there is some epic tracks in there.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: StarSlayer on November 13, 2010, 08:25:55 pm: /me recalls the halcyon days when he could pop the game disc into the radio and play the tracks direct. Ah Forrest Green (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_9QO_76l_I) how I did love thee.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Kolgena on November 13, 2010, 11:18:34 pm: Is it just me or does this game have poor performance? I can barely run this thing, while I could max out MW2 just fine.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: mxlm on November 14, 2010, 01:48:21 am: Quote from: Kolgena on November 13, 2010, 11:18:34 pm
Is it just me
No
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Hades on November 14, 2010, 07:15:33 am: I dunno, I could play it fine maxed out on this outdated laptop.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: General Battuta on November 14, 2010, 09:10:30 am: The game is bugged on PC. Many players (irrespective of system specs) are getting serious performance issues even on the menus. Treyarch is aware.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: starwolf1991 on November 14, 2010, 10:29:38 am: The performance can be a bit of a gripe in some spots. Every other part can be waded through steadily. I'm sure Treyarch will release another performance patch soonish.

Anyone else have that problem with trying to play the music in windows?
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Polpolion on November 14, 2010, 01:32:06 pm: Quote from: Hades on November 14, 2010, 07:15:33 am
I dunno, I could play it fine maxed out on this outdated laptop.

wat
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: carbine7 on November 16, 2010, 01:03:37 am: Personally, mine runs fine except in the multiplayer menus and the first campaign level, although I suspect the latter is due to my measly 2 GB of ram....
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Nemesis6 on November 16, 2010, 02:39:33 am: Well, at least the ~~graphics~~ textures are good, right?

http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae273/CalebDa/Codfail.png
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Mongoose on November 16, 2010, 03:05:18 am: That looks like a gun straight out of GoldenEye. :p
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Dilmah G on November 16, 2010, 03:41:30 am: Just bought this game and another hit of Xbox Live. Going to play this game nonstop to avenge my brothers who still have exams.

:D
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Grizzly on November 16, 2010, 03:46:35 am: Quote from: Titan on November 11, 2010, 06:28:11 pm
I don't pay more then $30 for a game is what I'm saying. I can't throw money at stuff like that. Which is why I'm not even going to consider this because I can't pay for it. That's not to say I don't have money, I have ~$400 saved up. It's just I can't pay for stuff like that.

Yep. Me too. I save a lot up for other things. CodBlops doesn't seem the best way to sell it. CoD is not really my game... Especially with all those awsome games coming out this spring (Crysis 2, Portal 2, thatshootergamethatletsyoudoslidingswhileshooting) And that one awesome game I've been waiting for sooo long and we know is in development. A reboot of an old series.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Pred the Penguin on November 16, 2010, 04:35:13 am: Vanquish? But that's already out... what sliding-while-shooting game?
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 16, 2010, 04:36:29 am: Quote from: Nemesis6 on November 16, 2010, 02:39:33 am
Well, at least the ~~graphics~~ textures are good, right?

http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae273/CalebDa/Codfail.png

Is that...Spiderman?
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Dilmah G on November 16, 2010, 06:28:24 am: Story is definitely original. Am liking it a fair bit, although I did notice difficulty was a step up from MW:2, probably because of infinite respawning enemies. The graphics aren't up to the standard of MW:2 either, which was a bit of an immersion killer. I'd probably get more of the stuff with Reznov if I'd played WaW properly, but it's still quite good.

MW:2 was much cleaner, much clearer. Black Ops is very much a 'gritty' game, hell, you'll feel the dirt when you're playing. Make sure you play this one with the sound up as well, or you'll miss the good bits. Has a bit of a Treyarch feel about the story when it comes to cutscenes, looked like an extension of what they did in WaW, from what I remember about it.

My personal preference is IW's 'style', but I'm reserving judgment for the end.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Grizzly on November 16, 2010, 09:51:56 am: Quote from: Pred the Penguin on November 16, 2010, 04:35:13 am
Vanquish? But that's already out... what sliding-while-shooting game?

Brink.

Also, THe Witcher 2, etc. etc. etc. :P. My wishlist is too big to afford Codblops
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Dilmah G on November 17, 2010, 11:00:43 am: Finished campaign this morning. Was very good, in retrospect (now that I can appreciate the foreshadowing and character dev). Can you believe they actually developed the token black guy? :D Story itself reminded me a bit of that last Bourne movie in a very vague sense, it's unlike any other COD game I've played.

Gripes were mainly towards things in gameplay, such as infinite respawning enemies, some new dive mechanic that got me killed a few times whilst dodging the former because I now ended up five feet in the open, and those infinite respawning enemies, again. I only got held up at three or four parts, but I found it bloody annoying to have neutralised a hostile, only to advance and be shot by two more in the place of the last one I killed.

I know you North Vietnamese are really into your large families, but seriously, there cannot be that many of you.

Also, the enemy don't seem to know what suppression is, but that's really a COD-wide thing.

Multi is quite intense, KDR is currently sitting at a +1.41, however everyone on FFA loved a particular map called 'Nuketown' or something. I find the new system for upgrades/weapon attachments/all that jazz a bit confusing, could be the darker colours. :P

If you have an open mind and a wallet that looks the same, this game isn't a waste of money, in my opinion. But as always, if you don't like it, you're going to find reasons to not like it, regardless.
Title: Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
Post by: Glowhyena on November 21, 2010, 02:41:11 pm: Quote from: Turambar on November 10, 2010, 12:03:17 pm
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt24/_CARLOX_GFAQS/cod_360.jpg)

Oi! I already saw that one from descentBB.

The game would be awesome.