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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace & FreeSpace Open Support => Topic started by: wardog300k on August 09, 2015, 02:22:02 pm

Title: [Solved]A Problem
Post by: wardog300k on August 09, 2015, 02:22:02 pm
When I try running retail, it gives me this:
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Attention!

Please configure your system in the Launcher before running FS2.

The Launcher will now be started!


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And:
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Error

Freespace2/Fred2 cannot be run from a drive root directory!

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The problem is, it ran fine till now.

I can open Launcher, FRED and FSO just fine.

As for the launcher part of the warning, it doesn't open it, and even if I configure it (again) it still gives the same thing.

Running the game from shortcut, FreeSpace 2.exe and the launcher, it always gives the same result.

I did search around the net a bit, and quite a few people that got the game from steam have the problem, and I got it from GOG a long time ago, and I was using it till now.

Does anyone know how I could fix it?
Title: Re: A Problem
Post by: niffiwan on August 09, 2015, 04:16:36 pm
It sounds like retail can't find the registry entries it needs. I think if you run the retail launcher as administrator and start FSO from it, it'll add the registry entries. If that doesn't work, have a look to see if these exist in the registry:

Code: (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Getting_started_with_FreeSpace_2#Registry) [Select]
Default location is: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE -> Software -> Volition -> Freespace2
On 64 bit Windows: HKEY_CURRENT_USER -> Software -> Classes -> VirtualStore -> MACHINE -> SOFTWARE -> Wow6432Node -> Volition -> Freespace2
Title: Re: A Problem
Post by: wardog300k on August 09, 2015, 05:14:13 pm
Instead of launching FSO from retail launcher, I launched retail from FSO launcher, and it sortied itself up.

Thanks for helping me! Now I can watch the glorious destroyer battles I made today!
Title: Re: [Solved]A Problem
Post by: jr2 on August 09, 2015, 07:49:37 pm
Any reason you're using FS2 Retail instead of FSO itself?  You can always decide not to run it with the MediaVPs or other enhancements.  FSO has many optimizations and fixes for bugs that are still present in retail.
Title: Re: [Solved]A Problem
Post by: wardog300k on August 10, 2015, 04:30:31 am
I'm using retail instead of FSO cause FSO crashes a lot, while retail runs smoothly.
Title: Re: [Solved]A Problem
Post by: jr2 on August 10, 2015, 05:23:43 am
Hmm.  Odd.  Although, maybe that could be due to an older graphics card.  You could try using FSO with the -noglsl option, or posting a debug log if that didn't fix it.  Of course, retail still works.
Title: Re: [Solved]A Problem
Post by: wardog300k on August 10, 2015, 06:16:17 am
I'm pretty sure it is due to the older graphics card, as I have the Intel 82945G Express Chipset Family.
Title: Re: [Solved]A Problem
Post by: jr2 on August 10, 2015, 08:38:27 am
OK, definitely for the Intel cards, use the -noglsl option, and the crashes should go away. :yes:

For the wxLauncher, that's under Advanced Settings > scroll down to the 'Troubleshoot' section > Disable GLSL (shader) support.

For Launcher 5.5g (Launcher.exe), that's under Features > select 'List type' 'Troubleshoot' > scroll in the 'Flags' section down to Disable GLSL (shader) support.

Title: Re: [Solved]A Problem
Post by: The E on August 10, 2015, 09:10:20 am
OK, definitely for the Intel cards, use the -noglsl option, and the crashes should go away. :yes:

Actually, no. The 945G is a really bad GPU, and there is no guarantee that it supports everything even the fixed function renderer needs these days. As a result, we really can't support it; Not to mention that newer mods, with more detailed models and textures will never run well on that hardware. If FS retail runs well enough for him, then he should use FS Retail and switch to FSO if and when he gets better hardware.
Title: Re: [Solved]A Problem
Post by: wardog300k on August 10, 2015, 09:17:34 am
I used -noglsl and entire system crashed few seconds after the main menu loaded. I tried it twice and both times the same thing happened.

If FS retail runs well enough for him, then he should use FS Retail and switch to FSO if and when he gets better hardware.

Retail does run at 30 FPS, with huge battles it can drop to 15, never had it below. I'm collecting money to buy a completely new PC, as this one is all integrated and I cannot upgrade it much. But, with the slow money getting and huge prices, I doubt I will buy a new one before 2018.
Title: Re: [Solved]A Problem
Post by: jr2 on August 10, 2015, 03:56:24 pm
OK, definitely for the Intel cards, use the -noglsl option, and the crashes should go away. :yes:

Actually, no. The 945G is a really bad GPU, and there is no guarantee that it supports everything even the fixed function renderer needs these days. As a result, we really can't support it; Not to mention that newer mods, with more detailed models and textures will never run well on that hardware. If FS retail runs well enough for him, then he should use FS Retail and switch to FSO if and when he gets better hardware.

True; however, those mods wouldn't run on retail regardless, I would think (are there exceptions?)

I remember running FSO 3.6.7 or 3.6.9 on a GeForce 5200 and I believe possibly even an integrated GeForce 4000 -- is the 945 even worse than that?  :eek:   Hmm... Answered my own quesstion:  the MX4000 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce4_Series) is a year newer and perhaps more capable than the 845 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_graphics_processing_units#Second_generation).  Both are extremely ancient.

IIRC, FSO 3.6.9 still had support for DirectX.  But as The_E said, it might not be worth setting up (I would, but I like that kind of thing).

If you need help building a budget PC, I'm sure there are a lot of people here who know where you can get the parts pretty cheap.