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Title: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on December 13, 2006, 04:34:32 am
The FreeSpace 2 Online Installer
By [DW]-Hunter & Turey

About

This installer allows you to pick and choose what game packages you desire to install. This Installer provides the original CD quality features that came with the game, unaltered at all. You do not need a CD to play, which makes this a more efficient way to play the game, rather then needing to insert the FreeSpace2 play disc every time you want to play single player or watch cutscenes. This is a great way to start if you just need the core files for open because this installer gives you the option to install just the key files that are required to play or more features that you may want to enhance your game-play. Although all you really need is the core files, I suggest for those just using this for open to also download Voice, Music and Animations as well so you aren't missing those key elements in the single player campaign since open doesn't supply these in the media vps.

Installer Contents
Version 1.03


Instructions

Download the latest version using the link provided in the under the downloads heading in this thread. A prompt may appear when you select the link, press run (illustrated below). After this it should run the installer automatically after the download.

(http://www.fsoinstaller.com/files/freespace/step1a.JPG)

Downloads

FreeSpace2Setup.exe (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/files/freespace/FreeSpace2Setup.exe)

Comments

12/13/06 : New Installer Released!

12/14/06 : Fixed the files that it doesnt download, its fully functional now. :)

12/31/06 : Retail Installer has been updated to download and run the Java-based FreeSpace Open Installer.

1/6/07 : Retail Installer has been updated to use the new exe Open Installer.

1/11/07 : No longer Includes Turey's Open Installer neither the MVE Cutscenes since their link is broken. I Will have new cutscenes uploaded and will have them included again later.



Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: Turey on December 13, 2006, 04:35:21 am
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Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on December 13, 2006, 04:42:48 am




Please sticky this thread.






Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on December 13, 2006, 04:54:07 am
More like spell check :P Thanks for your grammar concerns, the spelling is fixed. :)

Edit : Can someone remove the stupid grammar posts, it isnt relevant to the topic at all. And the first post being someones OCD problem only makes it look bad.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: Turey on December 31, 2006, 06:44:06 pm
Retail Installer has been updated to download and run the Java-based FreeSpace Open Installer.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: achtung on December 31, 2006, 07:54:24 pm
You guys should really consider an offline installer, just including Freespace 2 itself and Freespace Open with no unnecessary MediaVPs or something.  That would be a much better option for people with ****ty connections, or people that had no connection at all, but still wanted to play.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: Turey on December 31, 2006, 08:00:58 pm
You guys should really consider an offline installer, just including Freespace 2 itself and Freespace Open with no unnecessary MediaVPs or something.  That would be a much better option for people with ****ty connections, or people that had no connection at all, but still wanted to play.

That'd require a HUGE amount of storage space and bandwidth.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: achtung on December 31, 2006, 08:16:35 pm
You guys should really consider an offline installer, just including Freespace 2 itself and Freespace Open with no unnecessary MediaVPs or something.  That would be a much better option for people with ****ty connections, or people that had no connection at all, but still wanted to play.

That'd require a HUGE amount of storage space and bandwidth.
The online one doesn't?
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: Turey on December 31, 2006, 08:58:44 pm
That'd require a HUGE amount of storage space and bandwidth.
The online one doesn't?

No. The online one downloads its files from different servers (mediavps from fs2source.warpcore.org, mods from the mod creator's site, etc.), but an offline one would have to be hosted all in one place, so someone would have to pay for that space and bandwidth. It'd be very hard to find a free place willing to host that many files, especially since the Installer is run over 100 times a day.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on January 01, 2007, 01:44:28 am
I only host a fraction of the files that are downloaded through the installers, not the whole thing. ;)
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: achtung on January 01, 2007, 02:13:00 am
How big would you estimate a full offline installer to be?
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: karajorma on January 01, 2007, 02:29:02 am
You guys should really consider an offline installer, just including Freespace 2 itself and Freespace Open with no unnecessary MediaVPs or something.  That would be a much better option for people with ****ty connections, or people that had no connection at all, but still wanted to play.

The solution for that problem is HotU and a visit to here (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,44291.0.html). Unless we're going to start saying that people on slow connections only deserve the 640x480 version :)
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: chief1983 on January 01, 2007, 02:34:34 am
How big would you estimate a full offline installer to be?

I'd think quite easily over 3GB, unless you get really good compression.  My folder, with mods, is 3.78GB.  Not gonna get much smaller than 3GB.  So, 100 times a day * 3GB  = 300GB/day.  Haha, not like everyone running the installer is downloading the whole mod.  However, it does present something.  People run the installer a lot because they only have to pull a couple files at a time, and whenever they want to run it they have to connect to a server.  Personally I think releasing an up to date offline installer would be nice, something compatible with all OS's, maybe even in a DVD iso format that could be distributed to others.  Maybe as a torrent if bandwidth is an issue, and just have Hunter and some others be permanent seeds for it.  Have an offline installer plus the updater installed, so you can update as soon as it's done.  I think it's headed in that direction already, it's just a matter of making sure whatever's created can be reliably available.  But I know I'd really like to just be able to hand my friends a disc, and say install this, run the updater, and you're good to go with the best the SCP has to offer.  I think that this would cut down on bandwidth costs in the end.  Picture this scenario.
   
A random guy loves Freespace 2 Open, and wants all his friends to play it.  Currently the way to get it is to download it live.  So he's download about 4GB of files so far.  He gets 5 friends to play, and they all download it as well.  There's 20 GB more downloaded.  If the first random guy had a dvd iso, he could have just burned it off and given it to his 5 friends, saving everyone bandwidth and time at the expense of a few cheap as hell dvds.  Since I'm guessing the SCP is being advertised almost solely by word of mouth, I have to imagine that the people who are spreading The Good Word about it could be giving away discs, if they were available.  I know I would.

I know the installer has a ways to go before it could be used for this, but I think it's making some real progress.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: achtung on January 01, 2007, 03:35:16 am
How big would you estimate a full offline installer to be?

I'd think quite easily over 3GB, unless you get really good compression.  My folder, with mods, is 3.78GB.  Not gonna get much smaller than 3GB.  So, 100 times a day * 3GB  = 300GB/day.  Haha, not like everyone running the installer is downloading the whole mod.  However, it does present something.  People run the installer a lot because they only have to pull a couple files at a time, and whenever they want to run it they have to connect to a server.  Personally I think releasing an up to date offline installer would be nice, something compatible with all OS's, maybe even in a DVD iso format that could be distributed to others.  Maybe as a torrent if bandwidth is an issue, and just have Hunter and some others be permanent seeds for it.  Have an offline installer plus the updater installed, so you can update as soon as it's done.  I think it's headed in that direction already, it's just a matter of making sure whatever's created can be reliably available.  But I know I'd really like to just be able to hand my friends a disc, and say install this, run the updater, and you're good to go with the best the SCP has to offer.  I think that this would cut down on bandwidth costs in the end.  Picture this scenario.
   
A random guy loves Freespace 2 Open, and wants all his friends to play it.  Currently the way to get it is to download it live.  So he's download about 4GB of files so far.  He gets 5 friends to play, and they all download it as well.  There's 20 GB more downloaded.  If the first random guy had a dvd iso, he could have just burned it off and given it to his 5 friends, saving everyone bandwidth and time at the expense of a few cheap as hell dvds.  Since I'm guessing the SCP is being advertised almost solely by word of mouth, I have to imagine that the people who are spreading The Good Word about it could be giving away discs, if they were available.  I know I would.

I know the installer has a ways to go before it could be used for this, but I think it's making some real progress.

Exactly!  I'd love to be able to give my friends a DVD, or transfer it onto their jump drives.  Plus, a torrent for this would be acceptable.

Even if you throw the "everything's hosted here, there, and yonder" bit out for bandwidth, what if one of these locations fail?  Sure, someone will pick up it's loss eventually, but a few people may not be able go get what they need, and BAM!  You've got Steam with less-than-reliable servers.  :p  Henceforth, WE LOSE NEWBIES.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: karajorma on January 01, 2007, 03:55:42 am
ShivanSPS is probably going to release a version of his pack for 3.6.9 as soon as the media VPs are finalised.

That should take care of the offline installer.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: achtung on January 01, 2007, 04:15:10 am
ShivanSPS is probably going to release a version of his pack for 3.6.9 as soon as the media VPs are finalised.

That should take care of the offline installer.

heheh, forgot about that :p
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on January 01, 2007, 04:12:34 pm
if you want to just hand someone a disc, download freespace using the installer then zip your directory and then put it on a dvd, its as easy as that.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: chief1983 on January 01, 2007, 05:30:33 pm
That'd be great, unless I've been using my install for a while and it's cluttered with a bunch of stuff that wouldn't come with a fresh install.  Unless I have a really good idea what I'm doing, I wouldn't know what to clean out and what to make sure I leave.  I'd have to redo the installer to another directory, still using up the bandwidth anyway.  I wouldn't have any issues with Shivan's pack being used for this, except he seems to sometimes have a problem with that himself.  But since he's going to pack it, I'd really hope he does a standalone release this time and not just another patch on the old one.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: achtung on January 01, 2007, 05:48:22 pm
Yeah, the constant patching is getting annoying.  That's kinda the reason I didn't think about it as viable.

EDIT:  I think the setup is trying to tell me something.



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Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: Turey on January 01, 2007, 10:09:25 pm
EDIT:  I think the setup is trying to tell me something.

Never seen that one. Try running it again.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: Huggybaby on January 02, 2007, 12:45:43 am
The full install with all movies and a bunch of mods is around 2.3GB when it's zipped up.

I think Shivan's 2.0 is going to be clean, no patches.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: karajorma on January 02, 2007, 03:47:05 am
That'd be great, unless I've been using my install for a while and it's cluttered with a bunch of stuff that wouldn't come with a fresh install.  Unless I have a really good idea what I'm doing, I wouldn't know what to clean out and what to make sure I leave.  I'd have to redo the installer to another directory, still using up the bandwidth anyway.  I wouldn't have any issues with Shivan's pack being used for this, except he seems to sometimes have a problem with that himself.  But since he's going to pack it, I'd really hope he does a standalone release this time and not just another patch on the old one.

Cleaning up an old FS2 install is pretty easy actually.

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/FAQ/FAQ-Images/Installing/CleanInstall.jpg)

   1.  Delete or remove any file from your Freespace2 folder which you don't see in this picture. (Don't worry if you don't have them all)
   2. Rename your Data folder to DataOld
   3. Make a new folder called Data
   4. Move DataOld\Players to Data
   5. Move DataOld\Freddocs to Data
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on January 02, 2007, 04:21:55 pm
the problem with making a standalone installer is that we have to re-upload a whole new installer when something new comes out, where as an online installer just downloads the new stuff as soon as it comes out without the need of modification to the actual installer.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: chief1983 on January 03, 2007, 02:10:07 am
the problem with making a standalone installer is that we have to re-upload a whole new installer when something new comes out, where as an online installer just downloads the new stuff as soon as it comes out without the need of modification to the actual installer.

That's not entirely true.  I'm not sure about this, but I'm guessing the installer checks some text files or something online to see what's needed, correct?  All that would be needed is to first check a local directory, such as on the dvd medium it's on, and if there's something there, use that by default, or better yet, ask the user to check online for updates, and anything that hasn't changed from the dvd could just be copied from it.  You could do an entire offline install from the disk, or use it to pull files from the net, but not the stuff already on the disk.  I'm actually thinking about modifying Turey's code myself to do something like this, if I feel like getting my hands dirty with Java sometime.  That is, unless you guys think this is a good idea and beat me to it.  I think this could be the beginning of a 'release engineering' group.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on January 03, 2007, 04:48:55 pm
the problem with making a standalone installer is that we have to re-upload a whole new installer when something new comes out, where as an online installer just downloads the new stuff as soon as it comes out without the need of modification to the actual installer.

That's not entirely true.  I'm not sure about this, but I'm guessing the installer checks some text files or something online to see what's needed, correct?  All that would be needed is to first check a local directory, such as on the dvd medium it's on, and if there's something there, use that by default, or better yet, ask the user to check online for updates, and anything that hasn't changed from the dvd could just be copied from it.  You could do an entire offline install from the disk, or use it to pull files from the net, but not the stuff already on the disk.  I'm actually thinking about modifying Turey's code myself to do something like this, if I feel like getting my hands dirty with Java sometime.  That is, unless you guys think this is a good idea and beat me to it.  I think this could be the beginning of a 'release engineering' group.

Yes but that defeats the whole purpose of having an offline installer if it has to go online to check for updates. If a person doesnt have internet, how is he going to get the update? But I see where your going with this, should the person have a 56k modem, the offline installer with a updater would be ideal since the actual build thats being updated is only a few MB in size, but then again, mods will be updated as well so were back at the point where its just easier to use the online installer, install it to your disk, and copy it to a dvd and give it to a friend.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: Turey on January 05, 2007, 10:37:29 pm
Retail Installer has been updated to use the new exe Open Installer (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,42854.msg906819.html#msg906819).
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: PzyCrow on January 07, 2007, 06:41:18 pm
Have you conciderd using something like dijjer (http://www.dijjer.org/) for the downloads?
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: Commander Zane on January 07, 2007, 07:10:32 pm
(http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/9176/snameim1.png)
WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN TO ME?!

I've tried this four times and it always crashes in this exact spot...

I really want to play this again, rather than sit around and gawk at all the new updates that I've missed out on from the past three years just because my CDs won't even go as far as finishing Installshield Wizard and I DON'T want to spend 18 hours downloading a 1.98 gigabyte zip folder over Shivan's .torrent which takes me four weeks to transfer...

What's wrong with this installation??
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: Turey on January 07, 2007, 08:12:06 pm
I don't know what it causing your problem, but try not selecting the cutscenes, as you can get them from the FreeSpace Open Installer as well. That might fix your problem.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer w/ Open Installer Option
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on January 07, 2007, 08:54:38 pm
Have you conciderd using something like dijjer (http://www.dijjer.org/) for the downloads?

I dont think i need to worry about bandwidth for a while there buddy... I have 4.5TB/mo of bandwidth on the site hosting the files.

WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN TO ME?!

I've tried this four times and it always crashes in this exact spot...

I really want to play this again, rather than sit around and gawk at all the new updates that I've missed out on from the past three years just because my CDs won't even go as far as finishing Installshield Wizard and I DON'T want to spend 18 hours downloading a 1.98 gigabyte zip folder over Shivan's .torrent which takes me four weeks to transfer...

What's wrong with this installation??

If all you want is the retail version and you want the cutscenes, install without the cutscenes and then let me know and I can give you the links for the cutscenes, otherwise use tureys installer to install the cutscenes when your installing open.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: wolfen on January 28, 2007, 05:16:51 pm
Turey this latest installer has taken all day to download and update FS2, (Yea I screwed everything up and had to do a total reinstall again) but thank God the installer is there, so far its saved me a lot of downloading, plus I can still surf the web with this one, the last one took more resources, dunno why.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: jr2 on February 19, 2007, 08:50:20 am
-From post 1:
1/11/07 : No longer Includes Turey's Open Installer neither the MVE Cutscenes since their link is broken.
Update: the Open Installer's link is no longer broken.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Janipoika on February 23, 2007, 03:10:25 am
Hi guys.

I'm just wondering that how much will the Open Installer install, if I chose update all. It has updated over 14h now and it's taking almost 5Gb of my harddrive... :doubt: When do I get to play it? :wtf:
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: jr2 on February 23, 2007, 03:47:58 am
5Gb?  Don't include the archives in the amount; then the total will be about 3.3 GB that will be there when it is done.  In other words, after the Installer's done, the archive files are deleted, and the size is 3.3 GB.  I think if you check the size of everything except the FreeSpace2\Installer directory, that should work... I think.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Turey on February 23, 2007, 10:39:52 am
think if you check the size of everything except the FreeSpace2\Installer directory, that should work... I think.

That whole folder is text files anyways. It won't significantly affect the total size.

You DID say "Install All." That's all of FreeSpace 2, the very large content upgrades known as mediavps, all of FreeSpace 1 and Silent Threat, Awakenings, Derelict, JAD 1&2, FreeSpace Demo Campaign, the cutscenes for both games in two different formats, All the multi missions and voice files, etc.

What I'd recomend is making sure you delete any .mve files you have in the directory or its subdirectories, as well as the files at these locations:
freespace2\FS2MVEcutscenepack.vp (NOT freespace2\FS2OGGcutscenepack.vp!)
freespace2\fsport\FS1MVEcutscenepack.vp (NOT freespace2\fsport\FS1OGGcutscenepack.vp!)

This will free up quite a bit of space, and you won't be losing any needed files.  :)

Also, any zip files left behind by the Installer can be safely deleted.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: wolfen on February 23, 2007, 06:08:11 pm
Some of us want it all updated :) I have a special folder I keep Freespace movies in that I find in various corners of the universe.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: jr2 on February 24, 2007, 02:54:57 am
WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN TO ME?!

I've tried this four times and it always crashes in this exact spot...

I really want to play this again, rather than sit around and gawk at all the new updates that I've missed out on from the past three years just because my CDs won't even go as far as finishing Installshield Wizard and I DON'T want to spend 18 hours downloading a 1.98 gigabyte zip folder over Shivan's .torrent which takes me four weeks to transfer...

What's wrong with this installation??

If all you want is the retail version and you want the cutscenes, install without the cutscenes and then let me know and I can give you the links for the cutscenes, otherwise use tureys installer to install the cutscenes when your installing open.

Why not just manually copy the .MVEs from the CDs after?

EDIT: If you're using DAEMON Tools or similar to install off of image files, maybe your image file is corrupted.  If you still have the archive you downloaded the image in (if it was in archive format), run a test on it using your archive program (7-zip, WinZip, WinRAR...) to see if it's okay.  If it is, re-extract it (un-load the old one first!).
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Commander Zane on February 24, 2007, 11:40:15 am
I've had it to work for the longest time now. :D
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: jr2 on February 24, 2007, 01:02:33 pm
If the file got corrupted, that would certainly throw a wrench in the gears... sometimes that does happen.  Or maybe Windows itself is misbehaving, who knows..
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: wolfen on February 24, 2007, 06:27:36 pm
So far theres no problems with the installer using vista basic, except it processes faster than I can download FS2 and slows down. Other than that I've had no problems yet with turey's installer.



Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Turey on March 04, 2007, 12:27:44 pm
Retail Installer updated to work with latest version of Open Installer.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: MarsNeedsWomen on March 23, 2007, 08:41:45 pm
Hi...um I having trouble downloading the installer. I get a 404 error page stating that

"The requested URL /files/freespace/FreeSpace2Setup.exe was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request."
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Turey on March 23, 2007, 09:29:35 pm
Hi...um I having trouble downloading the installer. I get a 404 error page stating that

"The requested URL /files/freespace/FreeSpace2Setup.exe was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request."

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,42854.msg939892.html#msg939892

The issue there also applies to this installer.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Turey on March 24, 2007, 01:16:27 pm
Retail Installer is back up.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: MarsNeedsWomen on March 24, 2007, 03:23:38 pm
Unfortunately it does not seem to install the game  :(
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Turey on March 24, 2007, 03:38:38 pm
Unfortunately it does not seem to install the game  :(

What? Where'd you download it from? The one on Nukelol won't work. It's old.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: MarsNeedsWomen on March 24, 2007, 03:48:11 pm
The installer I have now is the one you put back up. It does not seem to  install the game.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Turey on March 24, 2007, 07:30:28 pm
The installer I have now is the one you put back up. It does not seem to  install the game.

What do you mean, "It doesn't install the game"?

It works for me, and I see no reason why it wouldn't work for you. If you give me more information, I may be able to help you out. Are you connected to the Internet while installing? Is your firewall blocking it? Does it put anything in the folder you select?
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: MarsNeedsWomen on March 24, 2007, 09:59:52 pm
All I get is the Games\Freespace2\Installer folders and a text file which states:

NAME
FreeSpace2 Retail Core
VERSION
Version 1
NAME
FreeSpace2 Voice
VERSION
Version 1
NAME
FreeSpace2 Music
VERSION
Version 1
NAME
FreeSpace2 Tech Animations
VERSION
Version 1
NAME
FreeSpace2 Command Briefing Animations
VERSION
Version 1

Nothing else
No firewall or internet problems either
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: jr2 on March 24, 2007, 10:36:18 pm
Should he try deleting those files and starting from scratch?
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Turey on March 24, 2007, 10:44:15 pm
Should he try deleting those files and starting from scratch?

Nah, the Retail Installer doesn't read them. It only makes them so that the Open Installer doesn't re-download the files.

The only thing I can think of is that he's hitting cancel when it tries to download the files.

Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: takashi on March 24, 2007, 10:45:36 pm
is he running the installer, or just downloading it?
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Turey on March 24, 2007, 10:48:20 pm
is he running the installer, or just downloading it?

He has to be running it, as he wouldn't get the text file without it.

Can someone else test to see if it works for them?
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: MarsNeedsWomen on March 24, 2007, 10:59:33 pm
I think I might be suffering from errors. That's the word I see a lot of as its installing.

Plus I've already downloaded the file several times, but its the same effect every time.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: jr2 on March 24, 2007, 11:01:41 pm
This doesn't help fix this problem, but can you Bittorrent a 3.28GB file?
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: MarsNeedsWomen on March 24, 2007, 11:06:54 pm
I have trouble with bittorrent (too slow). Can you PM files?

I did note in "Properties" the installer was version 1.00, not 1.03.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Turey on March 24, 2007, 11:08:58 pm
Can you access the files directly?

Try http://fringespace.org/downloads/scp/retail/ .

And can you post the error messages?
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: RazorsKiss on March 25, 2007, 12:17:35 am
I'm getting good urls - they're workin.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: MarsNeedsWomen on March 25, 2007, 10:10:49 am
Well the thing is, the installer runs so quickly I am unable to take down anything but I do remember seeing the word error when it was installing.

Anyway now I'm trying the link you gave.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Nyarly on March 27, 2007, 10:36:29 pm
I am having the same problems as MarsNeedsWomen, and those files from Fringespace are not working for me.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Turey on March 27, 2007, 10:52:15 pm
I am having the same problems as MarsNeedsWomen, and those files from Fringespace are not working for me.

Can you get to the files, or do they not show up?
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Nyarly on March 27, 2007, 11:18:24 pm
Oh yeah, I see the files.  In fact, the Freespace 2 file leads to the FS2 startup screen, but refuses to run (says it can't find the files for the game).

I dunno.  It was working on my desktop (albeit barely, and it was rather buggy), but now it's not. Now I gotta wait for FSOpen Installer to come back online.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: jr2 on March 28, 2007, 01:47:31 am
To get retail running, you can try this, then when the Open Installer comes back online, follow the instructions for if you already have Retail installed:
EDIT: Try Nukelol.com's FS site (http://www.nukelol.com/fs) if you want the retail discs. 
PS Just the FS2 - you want FSPort for FS1 & ST, and that can wait for the Installer.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: FutherBezluden on April 06, 2007, 07:32:44 am
what bums me out is that Disk 2 of FreeSpace2 has a scratch on the label side right where tango1_fs2.vp is so I'm screwed for installing it completely from disk.  I really hope this works.

I installed from the disk, but didn't install the act 1 command briefing animations because tango1_fs2.vp is inaccessible.  Running the installer over that install, we'll see what happens.  If screwed, I'll try a full install just on it's own into the default directory (I rarely use default recommendation).  Wish me luck.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: jr2 on April 06, 2007, 08:03:36 am
Here, copy the contents of your bad FS2 disc (except tango1_fs2.vp) to a folder on the hard disc; then download tango1_fs2.vp from somewhere.  Put the downloaded tango1 in that folder.  Burn that folder to a CD.  I think that'll work.  (Some will say prolly not, but I think it will...)
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: FutherBezluden on April 06, 2007, 08:35:17 am
How long should the "WORKING" marquee at the bottom be running back and forth until it's done working?

I'll try the individual file download from the retail thingy
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: jr2 on April 06, 2007, 09:41:00 am
Working?  What program?  To post a screenshot, press your Print Screen key (at the top, above your left arrow key on the keyboard), then open paintbrush (start - run - type pbrush - hit enter), hit Edit - paste, then hit file save as, then change the type of file from windows bitmap to JPG, pick a name & folder where you want it (eg, desktop), then get an account at photobucket or imageshack (I usually use imageshack), then upload your file, and post it here.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Turey on April 06, 2007, 08:00:17 pm
How long should the "WORKING" marquee at the bottom be running back and forth until it's done working?

I'll try the individual file download from the retail thingy

You're talking about the other Installer, and it will do it forever. Check the bottom of the log file, it'll say when it's done. I've got this bug fixed, just haven't had time to package the thing again and re-upload it.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Liberator on June 10, 2007, 08:30:45 pm
Hey guys!

Trying out this thing and it seems to have completed everything, but when i try to run executables, any of them, they crash...

Now you'll all agree that I'm not the brightest bulb, but why is this happening?
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Turey on June 10, 2007, 08:47:55 pm
Now you'll all agree that I'm not the brightest bulb, but why is this happening?

Because this thing's so far out-of-date it's sad.

Run this (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,42854.0.html) and it'll fix your install.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Liberator on June 10, 2007, 10:17:37 pm
The link at the top right?
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: karajorma on June 12, 2007, 07:30:04 am
If it's out of date it shouldn't be stickied here really as that's just confusing.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 10, 2007, 07:41:07 am
This download is taking so long is there a way to download it soon??
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Turey on July 10, 2007, 10:58:23 am
This download is taking so long is there a way to download it soon??

You shouldn't be using this one. You should be using this (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,42854.0.html) one.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 11, 2007, 03:10:48 am
Thats the online installer right? ya thats the one taking very long......
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: jr2 on July 11, 2007, 03:17:46 am
Freespace2 Online Installer is not the FreeSpace Open Installer
BTW, didn't I say this was going to get confusing?  A long time ago?

Anyways, the first one, just installs FS2.  The second one install FS2 + the SCP + the cutscenes + the mods, etc.. all selectable.  Did your install ask if you wanted The FreeSpace Port, aka FSPort, installed?  If it did, then you got the right one.  At least, I think so.  @Turey: you didn't put FSPort on the FS2 Online Installer, did you?
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 11, 2007, 04:00:06 am
okay okay ya......but i'm not sure if it asks for the port........ anyway! the link which turey gave what does it install?? just the FS2.....or the cutscenes,SCP .etc???
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: jr2 on July 11, 2007, 04:01:07 am
Eh, the link to the correct one is in my siggy... which is also the one Turey would be giving you.  So if you used the one Turey gave you, you're all set.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 11, 2007, 04:08:23 am
i downloaded the link from the previvous reply in which turey replied saying :
You shouldn't be using this one. You should be using this one........i re checked the download it didn't ask anything about any ports.....
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 11, 2007, 06:30:34 am
Oh dear, its saying that all download mirrors have faild.......i guess i can never re-download freespace 2...... :(
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Turey on July 11, 2007, 12:14:55 pm
Oh dear, its saying that all download mirrors have faild.......i guess i can never re-download freespace 2...... :(

Hrm. It's working for me... very odd. Are you sure your firewall isn't blocking it?
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 12, 2007, 02:21:58 am
i dunno if firewall is blocking it or not......i tried downloading again..this time it was done but the game cannot open......i used all Debug to open the intro video after that thats it.....not working its all black.......then i closed it of course......maybe i cant download..........
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 12, 2007, 02:37:57 am
This is what i get, now i remember, the same error occred during the very 1st FS2 SCP was installed, it is :

FreeSpace2/Fred2 cannot be run from a drive root directory <- This is what i get for now, if you can solve it then confirm FS2 will work.....
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: jr2 on July 12, 2007, 02:58:34 am
IIRC, that is solved by deleting the launcher6.ini file, then running the launcher again (it will re-create the file).

EDIT: BTW, hip63's DVD + 1.01 patch (in my siggy) will work with Turey's Installer.  The only caveat is that after it installs, and you patch it, you must rename the fs_port_3 (I forget the exact name, it's the one with "port" and "3" in it)... anyways, rename that folder to "fsport" without the quotes, then Turey's Installer will work as an updater to your newly installed, working FSSCP + goodies.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: karajorma on July 12, 2007, 04:03:39 am
This is what i get, now i remember, the same error occred during the very 1st FS2 SCP was installed, it is :

FreeSpace2/Fred2 cannot be run from a drive root directory <- This is what i get for now, if you can solve it then confirm FS2 will work.....

IIRC, that is solved by deleting the launcher6.ini file, then running the launcher again (it will re-create the file).

Nope. It's actually one of the easiest errors to solve but I seem to be the only one who ever remembers how. The error is caused when you install to the desktop, drag the launcher there or make a poor icon for the launcher/FS2_Open.

If you've installed to the desktop simply copy the entire folder to somewhere else and the problem is over. If you'd dragged the launcher to the desktop don't. Make a shortcut instead. Then right click on it's properties and be certain the start in folder setting actually points to the folder you have FS2 in (C:\games\Freespace2 by default).
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: jr2 on July 12, 2007, 04:04:52 am
Would installing to "My Documents" also cause a problem like this?
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: karajorma on July 12, 2007, 04:15:15 am
Not tried it but I wouldn't be surprised if it did.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 12, 2007, 07:04:48 am
i made a shorcut of launcher just like jr said....then i went to properties....then it did show th location on where the FS2 was......whats next??
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 12, 2007, 07:06:30 am
ya thats the point....i downloaded it to this location........[ C:\Documents and Settings\Xavier Andrews\My Documents\Downloads\Programs ] then i created a launcher shortcut just like u said.....what do i do next??
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: karajorma on July 12, 2007, 08:22:45 am
I'd suggest going into that folder and dragging the whole Freespace2 folder to somewhere like C:\Games\Freespace2 instead.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 12, 2007, 09:00:38 am
ya but why is it must move to the games folder?
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 12, 2007, 09:21:40 am
All FS2 Downloaded items have been sucessfully moved to the following location and a shortcut launcher file was created in the desktop and i right clicked the shortcut file and it did show where the original launcher was. What do i do next......awaiting orders......
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: jr2 on July 12, 2007, 09:38:02 pm
Change that to the new location... also, be sure the "start in" folder is correct.

It'd be easier, though, to delete the old shortcut, find the "launcher.exe" file in the new location, right-click > send to > desktop (create shortcut)
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 13, 2007, 01:05:05 am
The original launcher is in C:\Games\FreeSpace 2 folder.....then you said that create / copy paste a shortcut launcher in the desktop before this reply right? thats what i did.....so what do you mean by change that to new location?? you mean create another shortcut to somwhere else [ like C:\Games\ ] and link the desktop shortcut to the another shortcut [ C:\Games\ ]or what?
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 13, 2007, 01:17:10 am
Now another error is here saying whenever i open the launcher and press run :  Web Cursor bitmap not found
Now guyz this is annoying.........................!!
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 13, 2007, 01:37:58 am
hey guyz the problem which i wrote was not thr launcher one.....its the FreeSpace2: FreeSpace2 Launcher :volition.inc........if i go through the launcher there is too many errors..................
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: jr2 on July 13, 2007, 02:12:03 am
Wait until I get home... I'll IM you through this...

The rest of you guys pray for my sanity... :/
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 13, 2007, 06:28:51 am
haha lol.........hope you know my IM [email protected]
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 13, 2007, 09:56:16 pm
i am uninstalling the Openinstaller which i installed and installing the online installer which is in page 1 of this topic......
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Turey on July 13, 2007, 10:29:13 pm
i am uninstalling the Openinstaller which i installed and installing the online installer which is in page 1 of this topic......

It won't work.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 13, 2007, 11:23:20 pm
how come it won't work?? that time before i download the 1nd link which you gave me, i downloaded and installed the one on page 1 of this topic and it was downloaded sucessfully and the launcher worked and i saw the updated ones and i thought that was a problem and i go and uninstall it, yet that one on page 1, the video was not that smooth.....it stopped a half way but the audio was continuing perfectly but the video stopped for a while and then continued.......but at the mission where you kill the behemoth both the audio and video got stuck and my computer and the game got hanged.....so what do i do now??
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: jr2 on July 14, 2007, 01:17:03 am
Wait a bit until I remember to contact you tomorrow... I've got the day off... So, about 7-8 hrs from now, I'll be off work & @ home... what time are you available?  Post it in hours from your current time & I'll figure it out by your posting time, which is auto-converted to my time zone.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 14, 2007, 01:20:06 am
Tomorrow evening at about..... at 1535hrs i will be available and the time now here is 1408hrs ........
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: jr2 on July 14, 2007, 01:22:49 am
So, in 25 1/2 hours?
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 14, 2007, 03:48:22 am
what do u mean by 25 1/2 ?? 0130??
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: jr2 on July 14, 2007, 03:50:11 am
1408 hours today + 25 1/2 hrs (2530) = the next day, 1538 hours
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 14, 2007, 04:19:59 am
today is saturday.....you mean monday 1535hrs? or sunday 1535hrs?
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: jr2 on July 14, 2007, 08:13:32 am
Today is Saturday... it is now 9:00 AM.  I'm off all day & won't have to return to work until 10:00 PM Monday night.  I'm going to try IMing you.  btw, my name is Joshua R... (:p to -Joshua-)
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 15, 2007, 06:10:12 am
2 question friends......is there a way to choose other ships like, GTVA Colossus, GVD Psamtik, Orion, Fenris, Triton.etc? [ in single player mode ] And is there a way to join the opposite side and choose ships of theirs like, SJ Sathanas, SC Rakshaksa and Seraphim?? [ in single player mode too ]
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: karajorma on July 15, 2007, 06:45:41 am
You can't fly the capships of either side unless you play a mod.

I believe that there are mods that allow you to play as Shivan fighters though. Not sure how many of them have missions though.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 15, 2007, 07:04:57 am
oh ok
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 18, 2007, 09:01:26 am
another problem here........help me out some one......i require updated tango1_fs2.vp and warble_fs2.vp ....... i copied and pasted that 2 from FS2 Colossus......helm, the FS2 SCP was downloaded fully but dunno what is the matter.......since i copied and pasted the 2 files from the FS2 Colossus to the FS2 SCP, the full version of Freespace 2 game went fine all the way until the last mission which is the destroy 12 escort figthers where Admiral Koth will come in.........after that i accepted the next mission but there were musics and every thing except for the voice......i tried  playing without the tango1_fs2.vp and warble_fs2.vp.......it was absolutely dull.......no music, no voice, no nothing.......i guess that those to files were not updated and i can't update it myself.........so if any of you guyz can get me the link for the 2 updated files, i would be much more thankful......hope you guyz understand my situation...........kindly help me ASAP.....stu_fs2.vp also....oh ya and guyz try giving me only stu_fs2.vp.......i suspect that one......the last  2 days ago i remember having the stu_fs2.vp size was 237 something......now the size is only 97something......only FS2 colossus has 97something.....i remember dragging the stu_fs2.vp from FS2 Colossus to FS2 SCP and somehow i got them mixed up and deleted the stu_fs2.vp 237 something.....i require that now i suppose........just try giving me that and i won't disturb you guyz again anymore.......sry for causing too much trouble...there is no error with the file.......if possible help me get the 3 links ASAP........tango1_fs2.vp , stu_fs2.vp and warble_fs2.vp
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: karajorma on July 18, 2007, 11:35:03 am
I did tell you that you'd need to get those files if you wanted to play FS2 on Colossus. You'll need all 3 Tangos, The high res interface files and everything else.

Running on Colossus is only a stop gap for the first 3rd of the campaign. After that, you're buggered.

Run Turey's installer and update your retail install.
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 19, 2007, 01:26:07 am
can't i just get the 3 tango's links only?? instead of wasting time downloading the whole game for 3 days 2 nights??thats how i feel.......its not only 3 days 2 nite....more than that...in between the computer go restart itself.......thats y.......can't get file by file like the one in http://fsport.hard-light.net/website/ ? i suggest that would be very fast...no need to wait for days and nites......just 1hr 2hr if not 30mins.......
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Turey on July 19, 2007, 01:54:26 am
can't i just get the 3 tango's links only?? instead of wasting time downloading the whole game for 3 days 2 nights??thats how i feel.......its not only 3 days 2 nite....more than that...in between the computer go restart itself.......thats y.......can't get file by file like the one in http://fsport.hard-light.net/website/ ? i suggest that would be very fast...no need to wait for days and nites......just 1hr 2hr if not 30mins.......

Same place the Installer gets them from:
http://fringespace.org/downloads/scp/retail/
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 19, 2007, 01:59:47 am
thx..now let me try out and see if its working
Title: Re: Freespace2 Online Installer
Post by: karajorma on July 19, 2007, 03:06:46 am
Don't ask the same question on multiple threads. It just gets you conflicting advice.