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Offline Goober5000

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Originally posted by Charismatic
The hades was a cool ship. Wish the Good guys owned it. Id love to see it used agienst shivans, maby even test it out agienst a Sathanis.
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See!! A Hades can kill a Sathanas!


I'd sure like to know what campaign that's from... :)

 

Offline Taristin

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I'd ask Bobbaou, it seems to be his (bobb04.jpg)
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Offline Mad Bomber

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Part of the now-defunct Eden Project (mine from a few years back) involved the Hades Mark II class superdestroyer, with a punishing 66 turrets. The first of its class, the GTD Aeneid, was commanded by none other than the former Blue Lion Alpha 1. It would have showed up in the second campaign to protect the GTVA from a Shivan invasion via Ikeya.

Of course by the third campaign Alpha 1 would have gone EVIL :drevil: and you would have had to team up with the Pegasite government to stop him. Basically he tries to open another Knossos far beyond Adhara and threatens humanity. "If you don't put me in control YOU'LL ALL DIE BY SHIVANS!!11one"

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Man, am I glad I've learned better plotwriting skills for ETF since then. :D
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Anyhow, the Hades was kinda thrown out there in the last mission of ST. I like the design but, there was no buildup. No mysteriousness. Basically you do unrelated odd jobs for the GTI (escape pods, Ratna, kill all bystanders!, poke Ross 128) until you learn that half of it's gone rogue. And the way you learn it is by losing the Krios.

I mean, sure the Rogue GTI might have had the ability to stay completely secretive until then, but a good writer wouldn't randomly spring them on the player halfway through the campaign. Same with the Hades. It just gets sprung on you, conveniently showing up the second the Jotunheim is debris.

Having something like the Krios' 1st officer take over in a suspicious manner, and then try to kill you would be much more interesting. Hints to the Hades before the last mission's command briefing would have made the campaign much spicier.

Besides which, what the hell was Project Eumenides? :confused:

This sorta thing is why I want ST:R to come out.
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I think Project Eumenides was the research of Shivan weapons. who knows? ;)

Also, addressing the point of the Hades turning up at that point, maybe it could be that the Joutenheim Installation sent out a coded distress call on a frequency unknown to the GTA, and the Hades showed up right when the Joutenheim was destroyed.

my guess is that the ST developers had a hell of a lot of stuff for the expansion, but were on a tight schedule and couldn't add all of it, so they just threw the campaign together with intended material missing.
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Originally posted by Charismatic
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Offline Charismatic

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Just promoting your campaign (As in your siggy).
I pay enough fines to the cops now anyways. 350$ for a dam fire, jez.

ST:R ?

Cobra, isnt the, distress signal on unknown frequency thing a little far out? (Dont get mad if im wrong on this, its been years sence i have played ST)
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Offline Taristin

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I pay enough fines to the cops now anyways. 350$ for a dam fire, jez.
 


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Offline Charismatic

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I had a fire in the woods, cops saw smoke, they gave me dam citation and called fire department for a Small fire. They didnt need to do that. Now i have to pay 200$ for the FD and 156.20$ for the citation. Dam them..
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Offline IceFire

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meh, the problem is the :v: developers put too much hitpoints on the Hades' main hull instead of distributing them equally across the Hades' hull and subsystems. kinda weird tho, they did with the other ships. or is that just me?

I think the idea there is that because it was just a prototype and not even finished.  So while the ship was tough, the subsystems weren't yet fully completed and therefore vulnerable.  Or someone screwed up :D
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Offline BlackDove

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GTA caught GTI with their pants down.

That was all there was to it.

The completed Hades in my mind (conclusion which you'll probably come to if you use common sense) is _very_ badass.

 
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Originally posted by Charismatic
The hades was a cool ship. Wish the Good guys owned it. Id love to see it used agienst shivans, maby even test it out agienst a Sathanis.

GTI REBELLLLION!

I hope Someone finishes some of those many hosted projects on HLP somday soon.


I'm making a mission where a Hades battles a Sathanas (the Sathanas is softened up by bombers first, though)
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Offline Charismatic

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Well sene someone posted a Hades Vs Sathy, how about a Hades Vs Colossus? Who would win? GTI vs GTVA. Main caps. Just imagein it... ahhh
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Offline Ace

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The "Hades MK2" idea is a very popular one.

My first real campaign, Darkness Rising (oddly enough the same title as the OEM version of FreeSpace) dealt with a Hades MK2 and a GTA senator who was seceeding after the events of Silent Threat.

Dark even did a nice, brown, reskin intended to make it look like more of a Terran-Vasudan hybrid.

There were some jury-rigged beam cannons in the game. Including one used by an experimental fighter. (a reskinned Anubis since new fighter models hadn't been able to be ported in-game yet)

Of course, it is a rather painful to play campaign now due to its cheesiness.
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Offline pyro-manic

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In answer to the original question, I think it's fugly...
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Offline Taristin

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I like it's design, and I like it's textures. I'd like to see it redone, however, and used better.
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Offline Roanoke

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PSYCHO did quite a nice reskin ages ago.

 

Offline Taristin

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It doesn't need a reskin, though. It needs to be remodelled!

Hmm. this gives me an idea, actually...
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i liked the GTXD Nova one. it looked kickass. i even did an overhaul of its weapons by replacing it with Star Trek weapons a couple of years ago. :D
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Offline pyro-manic

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I like it's design, and I like it's textures. I'd like to see it redone, however, and used better.


Oh, don't get me wrong - the concept's great, but the execution was dreadful. Someone was doing a high-poly Hades-esque thing a while back, and that was excellent. (Was it Anaz or Raven or one of those other shady characters...?)
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Offline Roanoke

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Raptor ?