[General Battuta]

They are basically BuShips, BuWeps, BuPers, and BuInt all in one.

I just can't imagine this ever being true. The Security Council is one of the three branches of the GTVA government, not a military organ (though it doubtless has military representation.) If it works anything like the IRL Security Council, it's responsible for major strategic decisions, not micromanagement.

I agree with The_E on this one.

[The E]

I must admit I had the security council pegged as being similar to the American Joint chiefs of Staff judging from the tech room brakedown so more policy orientated rather than plan on the ground.  The_E's explanation sounds better but if the Corvettes were part of the 3rd fleet then surly it's Petrach's call so long as he can justify that his forces wont be exposed by their absence if asked.

For normal operations, I'd agree, but this is a mission where ships go through an old artefact to end up god knows where. Something like that, leading to a possible first contact situation, are a bit beyond what Joe Politician wants Sam Soldier to handle on his own, I think.

[Nohiki]

It's worth to notice that deploying two corvettes into an unexplored nebula full of shivans to lure out a destroyer will probably require higher authorization than deployment of jump node blocade... That was quite a risk compared to a blocade (like when the mjolnirs are massacring the NTF). Ask the Lysander how well it worked.

[NGTM-1R]

I'd buy two wings if you're out in the boonies, but if you're in, say, Capella, I would put big money on Corvette or Destroyer presence at all times.  The simple reason being that there is literally nothing of greater strategic value in any system beyond that jump node except for perhaps shipyards, and then only for select systems.

There's no real reason to deploy heavy forces to the node and expose them to attack. Leaving them back from the node gives you at least a brief window of uncertainty on the part of your opponent as to whether they're even there, and grants greater options for position once action is underway. Two wings is more than enough to provide security against piracy and a tripwire against a major enemy incursion. More heavily populated systems might require more force to protect and scan a larger amount of traffic, maybe.

[Solatar]

IIRC, two :V: missions take place at the Alpha Centauri node cluster.  There's one in FS1 after Vasuda gets baked, and one in the Templar campaign.

Evidence that suggests these nodes, at least, did not move - relative to each other.

[Dilmah G]

I'd buy two wings if you're out in the boonies, but if you're in, say, Capella, I would put big money on Corvette or Destroyer presence at all times.  The simple reason being that there is literally nothing of greater strategic value in any system beyond that jump node except for perhaps shipyards, and then only for select systems.

There's no real reason to deploy heavy forces to the node and expose them to attack. Leaving them back from the node gives you at least a brief window of uncertainty on the part of your opponent as to whether they're even there, and grants greater options for position once action is underway. Two wings is more than enough to provide security against piracy and a tripwire against a major enemy incursion. More heavily populated systems might require more force to protect and scan a larger amount of traffic, maybe.

I agree. I don't think an older cruiser for show would hurt either, as well as coordinating ship activity (making sure everyone whose been scheduled to jump, has jumped, etc). Although, that could probably be achieved by your two fighter wings, if need be.

[rscaper1070]

Man, that would be a crap detail. You go from blasting Shivans in the Great War to counting freighters at a jump node.

[headdie]

Man, that would be a crap detail. You go from blasting Shivans in the Great War to counting freighters at a jump node.

If I'm on a Fenris I would rather count freighters

[Droid803]

Man, that would be a crap detail. You go from blasting Shivans in the Great War to counting freighters at a jump node.

If I'm on a Fenris I would rather count freighters

Ayup. Freighters don't pose much of a threat to a Fenris, but Shivans sure do.

[headdie]

Man, that would be a crap detail. You go from blasting Shivans in the Great War to counting freighters at a jump node.

If I'm on a Fenris I would rather count freighters

Ayup. Freighters don't pose much of a threat to a Fenris, but Shivans sure do.

hence why i would rather count freighters.  Without Alpha 1 a FS1 era Fenris is a big old target against the shivans with only the Aten being a more hopeless warship

[Droid803]

The Aten has more hitpoints, thus is more likely to survive being sneezed on by a wing of interceptors.
FS1-era turrets may as well count for jack **** against Shivans.

[headdie]

The Aten has more hitpoints, thus is more likely to survive being sneezed on by a wing of interceptors.
FS1-era turrets may as well count for jack **** against Shivans.

and hp is useless unless you can fend of your attackers

[Droid803]

It lets you run awaaaay.

[headdie]

It lets you run awaaaay.

And that's why the Vasudans were winning the T-V war, all of our fighters and cruisers were chasing Atens while the Typhons went for the kill

[Hades]

It lets you run awaaaay.

And that's why the Vasudans were winning the T-V war, all of our fighters and cruisers were chasing Atens while the Typhons went for the kill

The Aten goes faster than the Fenris btw.

[rscaper1070]

Since we are kind of on the subject of the Fenris I was wondering if there is gravity on a ship that size. Is there any mention on how they produce gravity?

[MatthTheGeek]

We know there were gravity on Orions at the time of the Great War, and there doesn't seem to be any rotative device on it, so I'd expect artificial gravity to be mastered by Terrans at that point.

[Solatar]

I feel like I remember an argument where somebody mentioned that V had confirmed there was artificial gravity in ships.

Now that I see that in writing it doesn't look like a very good argument, but I'll try to dig up my source.

[NGTM-1R]

I feel like I remember an argument where somebody mentioned that V had confirmed there was artificial gravity in ships.

Now that I see that in writing it doesn't look like a very good argument, but I'll try to dig up my source.

It was aldo, discussing a dev letter in which they confirmed both artificial and anti-grav technologies.

[Solatar]

Is a copy of any of that extant?

I'm a historian, I like to have sources.   Plus, if it gets dug up, we can quickly refer to it in subsequent debates.