[Snail]

Just release it already!

[Dragon]

I have an idea for it, it'd make a great corvette support for Zagreus.
I'll most likely use it if it'd be released.

[Snail]

See! Lots of people could use it. Woolie could also use it in one of his campaigns since he makes extensive use of ships of that style.

[Woomeister]

Well we are talking 200-600 polygon ships here, not stuff like we've been showcasing in the eyecandy thread. These are more the type of things that I'd dump in a huge zip alltogether because they aren't worth being released as singular official use ships nowadays. Plus we have to revamp the tables to remove armour coding and none released weapons as well as making them compatable with the mediavp textures so they can be used for anything.

[Snail]

None of that is really necessary. All of that can be done by the end user. If the end user wants to use it, they should be the ones doing the work, basically.

[Dragon]

If you'd dump that in a huge .zip, then do just that.
Just upload it somewhere else than to Fileplanet.
Everybody who'd like to use one of these ships would have to edit tables a bit, but that shouldn't be a problem for anybody who's using custom ships anyway.

[Woomeister]

We'll end up getting flooded with 'it doesn't work' posts if we don't unless we state its a full model dump, but single release ships have to be fully useable at least or there's no point releasing them separately.
I do want to keep a specific level of quality control on things getting released, so that we don't get loads of complaints later.

[Dragon]

Making a full model dump is exactly what I suggested (I guess that only a few of these ships are good enough to warrant a full release).

[Woomeister]

If you'd dump that in a huge .zip, then do just that.
Just upload it somewhere else than to Fileplanet.
Everybody who'd like to use one of these ships would have to edit tables a bit, but that shouldn't be a problem for anybody who's using custom ships anyway.

If it was a true model dump then yes I would just dump the pofs with no other files or support, but that would take time to build and Mobius wants this ship released right now, so it has to be fully useable as a standalone release model. Some models would need to be returreted though if they use our custom turret maps as those wouldn't be in the pack.

As for the stuff dumped from the anniversary release I'm withholding that for a specific reason. I actually want to release them separately with FULL Inferno compatability with that release as if they were never cut. So if you want to have the Ryujin back in there, then you have the choice to download it separately. But if it gets released now that will not happen as I'll consider it done and not worth the bother as others can do it themselves then since they have the files they need to do so. But of course if you can't mod then you're out of luck until someone shares their version.

[Mobius]

I think all released models should have a working table entry and adequate tech descriptions. I'm not a big fan of POFs and texturers literally thrown to the public with a big "do the rest of the job yourselves, dear end users" written on the package.

[Dragon]

They should, but table entries could be unaltered from Inferno ones, since most designers change armament anyway.
Release with full compatiblity to Inferno would be a great thing though, far better than a single modeldump.

[Mobius]

I would personally prefer full compatibility with vanilla FS2 or the FSPort over compatibility with Inferno. It makes things so much easier for the end user.

Table entries will be obviously changed, of course, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't provide them or people will have nothing to work on. Also, I strongly believe each released ship should have a tech description explaining what it was meant for.

[Woomeister]

They should, but table entries could be unaltered from Inferno ones, since most designers change armament anyway.
Release with full compatiblity to Inferno would be a great thing though, far better than a single modeldump.

We use different Ai settings, armour code settings and sometimes even sound offsets for engines, it's not as simple as just changing weapons to get it to work with another mod, everything has to be checked.

[Snail]

Okay OKAY I ADMIT IT i just wanted that particular ship for my campaign can I have it now please

[Mobius]

Be patient.

[Snail]

nOOoOoOoooooooo

[Mobius]

What's up, now?

[Black Wolf]

What was the fenris textured cruiser thing that kind of had downward sloping sides and a fairly flat design? I remember that thing being pretty cool.

[Snail]

What was the fenris textured cruiser thing that kind of had downward sloping sides and a fairly flat design? I remember that thing being pretty cool.

Probably the Bellerophon.