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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Stormkeeper on July 08, 2008, 11:24:31 am
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Just curious. What happend the first time you had to dive, did you live or die. If you died, how many tries before you succeeded?
For me, I was drinking water. When I heard him scream, I freaked out, spat the water out, dropped the cup and got splatted.
Second time around, I was ready, I dived, and triggered the Shivan patrols. :doubt:
Third time, I decided to pull up and ... well. You know.
Fourth time, I turned around and ran like hell... not fast enough.
Fifth time, I dived and survived!
And recently when I was re-playing the FS2 campaign, I kinda forgot about this mission and was getting a snack and came back to see "Stormkeeper has been killed by SJ Sathanas"...
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The first time (on retail) I was mostly wtf since back then I was using a really dark monitor and couldn't actually see what was coming at me -> boom. On my second try, I revised the word "dive" in my mind and came to the conclusion that the proper direction would be "down" -> success.
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Was playing co-op with someone, heard “dive" and was promptly hit with huge lag. Had a great little moment of panic. Made it out anyway, though.
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I kept trying to pull up, because it looked like it would work better...and forgot that the Sathanas flares out on the rear end...
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Dove flawlessly. Most times on coop the other people die due to lag.
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Wait, you can play this on co-op?
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There's a four-player version of the Main Campaign out there somewhere IIRC.
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No, it's the multi mission "Into the Lion's Den".
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These are not mutually exclusive. :P
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Took me 4 times to survive this mission! First time, it took a while to understand I had a 6km piece of metal coming towards me at 400m/s. Too long as it became apparent I had become the fly splat on the Sathanas' windscreen.
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The multiplayer version of this question would be ho many time have you had to restart the game because some noob got run over by the Sath?
There is another outcome. Run over and survived. Granted that doesn't happen too often or if it happens at all in single.
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There is another outcome. Run over and survived. Granted that doesn't happen too often or if it happens at all in single.
Occasionally I'll get swatted by the Sath, and will end up ridiculously far away with 1-5% health left.
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I was used to playing more conventional flight sims at the time, with little inconveniences like gravity and solid ground, so given a choice of directions, my first instinct was to pull up. I cleared the forward flak battery but my luck and burners both ran out about a split second thereafter.
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I was too busy trying to turn down the speaker volume during Snipes' scream to actually manage to dive...
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I dove. I follow my orders. I can live with being a pawn as long as the game makes sense. And it made quite a bit of sense to dive in that situation.
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Wait, you can play this on co-op?
If you download the game via Turey's Installer, you can get a full-on four-person co-op version of the campaign. They can be played as single missions or as a multiplayer campaign.
Actually, we never had anyone run over due to lag in co-op. The brief host-still-joining lag, fortunately, kept everything -- including the Sathanas -- frozen.
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So does doing about a 135 degree twist while pulling up and to the left. The real trick is pouring a beer while doing it. :pimp:
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Wait, you can play this on co-op?
If you download the game via Turey's Installer, you can get a full-on four-person co-op version of the campaign. They can be played as single missions or as a multiplayer campaign.
Actually, we never had anyone run over due to lag in co-op. The brief host-still-joining lag, fortunately, kept everything -- including the Sathanas -- frozen.
Actually, you can just download the multiplayer missions VP. Follow the multi link in my sig.
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I remember the firs time I played that mission...I was stretching when the mission started and most missions that not a problem but I remember rushing to grab the joystick again and angled the fighter down while hammering the afterburners. I barely made it...it was quite the rush :)
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I was one of those who was caught completely off guard. I just freaked out and so my dive was late. Too late.
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Actually, you can just download the multiplayer missions VP. Follow the multi link in my sig.
Ah. Mmkay. I just need to round up some friends of mine who've never played FS2 and watch them splat themselves. I should probably fraps it too.
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I went "I'm not listening to you" and pulled up.
BAD END.
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You forgot to put "I don't remember" in the poll. :P
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I remember the first time I heard that screaming
DAMN! That freeked me out!! but I got away with the afterburners at the end.
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You forgot to put "I don't remember" in the poll. :P
:lol:
There, fixed.
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You forgot to put "I don't remember" in the poll.
Pfft. Only thing you forgot was to get out of the way, just like most all the rest of us.
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Just Ran right into SJ Sathanas and died :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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I'd been somewhat spoiled on the event by the time I finally snagged a copy of FS2, but hearing the yell in context still startled me enough that I didn't make a move right away. At that point, I just figured "Screw it" and afterburned straight ahead. :p
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I don't remember exactly, but I think I did what I was told. :cool:
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i really cant ****ing remember, that was like back in the 90s
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went up and died... then i dove and lived...
but i wasn't satisfied, i wanted to pull up and live, so i would get myself killed to do it again and again until i gave up and took the dive XD
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When I heard "Dive" the first time I survived, however I had played a non-english version before.
The translation was more like "move left/right", so I died many many horrible deaths at first...
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I went up and lived.... how did I do that?
:wtf:
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I've done it before.
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I went up and lived.... how did I do that?
:wtf:
It's possible, but it requires a certain degree of luck.
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I'm pretty sure the first time I heard that phrase I freaked out and tried to swerve to the left (I know I'm weird) I ended up splattered the first few times before I got it right.
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I went to the left myself. And lived to tell!
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I managed to type in the invulnerability code before I was hit
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I managed to type in the invulnerability code before I was hit
:lol: That's some fast typing.
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I managed to type in the invulnerability code before I was hit
:lol: That's some fast typing.
Yes indeed.
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I hit full burners and went straight ahead. I almost got through the Sathanas before I died, too.
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I managed to type in the invulnerability code before I was hit
:lol: That's some fast typing.
Yes indeed.
I've had a lot of practice.... I can go up to 400 WPM (at least in my own estimation)
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I spilt hot coffee in my lap and swore profusely, then died! :lol:
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I dived, but got hit anyways...
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The first time i listened and dived
the second time i had my headphones way too loud and it scared the living **** out of me sooooo...
(http://ignitenow.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/roadkill.jpg)
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I dived and survived! :)
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I went up.
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the poll is missing: Eeacted to late but still tried. Without success. :lol:
One of the best moments in Freespace2. However, I made it after the first death.
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Fixed. Well. At least you tried. :lol:
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I hit full burners and went straight ahead. I almost got through the Sathanas before I died, too.
:wtf:
I spilt hot coffee in my lap and swore profusely, then died! :lol:
:wtf:
I dived, but got hit anyways...
:wtf:
Did you hit the afterburner?
I dived and survived! :)
:D
I have never been hit by that Sathanas before. Even on my first try, I dove and hit my burners.
Another way is to turn left or right and afterburn in that direction. I've tried it before and lived, so I know it works.
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I hit full burners and went straight ahead. I almost got through the Sathanas before I died, too.
:wtf:
He means that it almost jumped fully out before he died.
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I kept trying to pull up, because it looked like it would work better...and forgot that the Sathanas flares out on the rear end...
Ditto.
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He freaked me the **** out (in that "WHY ARE YOU YELLING AT ME, I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG, BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWW" kind of way), I froze up, and the cap hit me and killed me.
In my defense, I was 13 years old.
I'll remember that moment for the rest of my life though.
Now that's something a good level designer does.
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I think the reason why I'm able to survive everytime is because I used VPVIEW32 and visited YouTube and Interplay before I actually got to that mission, so I knew what was coming.
Readiness is your only protection.
When I first heard Snipes scream, I thought he was telling some Shivans to die. :wtf:
If I didn't use VPVIEW32 and visit YouTube and Interplay, I think I would probably end up like BlackDove on my first attempt.
By the way, BlackDove, you said your screen name is inspired by Snipes. Is this the event that inspired you to choose this screen name?
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There is another outcome. Run over and survived. Granted that doesn't happen too often or if it happens at all in single.
Occasionally I'll get swatted by the Sath, and will end up ridiculously far away with 1-5% health left.
Yup. My first time, I saw the Sathy incoming and automatically pulled up, not processing Snipes' command until it was too late. IIRC next time I couldn't dive correctly and died, so I tried pulling up and got left with like 1% hull, so I retried the mission.
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There is another outcome. Run over and survived. Granted that doesn't happen too often or if it happens at all in single.
Occasionally I'll get swatted by the Sath, and will end up ridiculously far away with 1-5% health left.
Yup. My first time, I saw the Sathy incoming and automatically pulled up, not processing Snipes' command until it was too late. IIRC next time I couldn't dive correctly and died, so I tried pulling up and got left with like 1% hull, so I retried the mission.
There's a Discovery Channel program called "I Shouldn't Be Alive"... :nervous:
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There is another outcome. Run over and survived. Granted that doesn't happen too often or if it happens at all in single.
Somthing happened in that mission where you take out Sath#1's beam turrets. I had just managed to take out the 4 beam turrets and the Flack cannons WITHOUT CHEATS when the bloody ship jumped out and threw me 6-7 km from the node with 30+% hull. Failed the mission because the Beleth survived. First time. Second time the rest of mission was self-playing.
And this was on medium difficulty.
Never happend to me in the Dive! dive! Dive! incident though. I usually do dive.
First time i pulled up and got smaked in the face by those flares at the back for my troubles
on a couple of occasions ive gone in random directions and survived
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There's a Discovery Channel program called "I Shouldn't Be Alive"... :nervous:
Today's episode:
4 pilots enter hostile territory on a dangerous mission. Upon entering the system, they are greeted by a Juggernaught hurtling to them at high rate of speed. Snipes, the most experienced of them, immediately calls for them to dive.
Snipes: "DIVE, DIVE, DIVE! HIT YOUR BURNERS PILOTS!"
However, one of them, Alpha One, pulls up instead, forgetting that the Juggernaught flares out at the end. By the time he realises it, its too late. The Juggernaught hits his fighter at over 40ms, sending him flying. Incredibly, he's still alive, but just barely. Alpha One limps his fighter over to his wing, fighting to keep his systems alive. Unfortunately, he has no way of leaving the system until his jump drives reactivates ...
Because the objectives of the mission were top secret, we have no way of knowing what else transpired in the system. But incredibly, Alpha One returns home, bruised and battered, but still triumphant. We were unable to interview the famed Alpha One, but rumors circulating him range are numerous:
Jack Niven: "~+I. I'm telling you that's what he did. How else could he survive our exe-- Uh. The NTF ambush on him?"
Alpha 2: "He survived because he can live with being a pawn because the game makes sense to him!"
Fred: "He probably had ship-guardian."
Snipes: "What, do I look like Alpha One to you?"
However, the most popular, and heavily reinforced rumor, is this one, put forth by an unnamed source from within the GTVA:
Danmmoc: "No one can recoginze me, right? Since my name is spelled backwards? Okay.... You wanna know why he survived? Its simple. Because. Simply because he's Alpha One. That makes you automatically immortal."
And there you have it. The numerous reasons why Alpha One survived. We may never really know ourselves, but I'm sure Alpha One is saying to himself, "I shouldn't be alive."
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i tried Diving without using the afterburners.....was scraping at the bottom of the santh...survived w/ 30% hull left...didn't survive the mission due to it being at the max difficulty.
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By the way, BlackDove, you said your screen name is inspired by Snipes. Is this the event that inspired you to choose this screen name?
'Black Dove' is Snipes' codename in the encrypted message in the Command Briefing in 'As Lightning Fall'.
Although that doesn't fully answer the question for you :p. Only BlackDove himself can answer it truly! :lol:
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I dove and lived. Bit of a shocker though, since most missions you have at least 30 seconds to figure out what's going on before any action is necessary. But I was paying attention and made it.
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By the way, BlackDove, you said your screen name is inspired by Snipes. Is this the event that inspired you to choose this screen name?
Not so much inspired, as much as "ripped off". I was a kid, Snipes was cool, I saw his alternate (one time only) callsign was Black Dove, and I took it. He was cool, I wanted to be cool, general childlike mentality.
Once I took it, I used it everywhere, and so that was that.
Many people did the same thing. Like Raa, before he was Raa here, he was "Snipes" on VolitionWatch. Everyone thought Snipes' character in the game and the voice actor was a bad mother****er and wanted to associate with him.
Though that's off topic. Answer relating to the topic is both "yes" and "no", the event was just one of the things that pushed me in the direction to use it, but not the defining moment.
tl;dr - boring ****, skip if you didn't read it
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I DID read it. :)
I just scraped my fighter over a piece of debris just now in JAD and lost 29% hull integrity...in a Herc II.
Somehow, I feel that fighters are a bit too fragile when it comes to collisions... :rolleyes:
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Somehow, I feel that fighters are a bit too fragile when it comes to collisions... :rolleyes:
I think the opposite. Crashing into the side of a destroyer would be likely to kill you, but in FreeSpace you just lose like 70% hull.
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Collision with debris does waaaay too much damage. (Especially to capships). A chunk of SD lucifer moving at 25m/s will plow straight through an Orion, or another Lucifer.
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Quite so... :nod:
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Try getting a Ravana to jump in through a Demon debris field. It'll probably die even before its beams are freed. :drevil:
A piece of flying Sathanas can knock the Colossus' hull from 100% to 80%.
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:wtf: Who's Jack Niven? I've heard of Larry Niven (wrote "The Draco Tavern") but never Jack.
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:wtf: Who's Jack Niven? I've heard of Larry Niven (wrote "The Draco Tavern") but never Jack.
Jack Niven is an NTF squad commander who tries to kill Alpha 1 in ...But Hate the Traitor.
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If I were Jack Nivens I would have made a run for it if Alpha 1 managed to kill 3 other fighters single handedly while under fire from 3 other Mrymidons . . . if he managed to live that far.
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If I were Jack Nivens I would have made a run for it if Alpha 1 managed to kill 3 other fighters single handedly while under fire from 3 other Mrymidons . . . if he managed to live that far.
If I were Jack Niven I would've killed Alpha 1 on the flight deck, not let him get back into a damn fighter craft.
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Jack Niven should have done that, except that Alpha 1 was way to skilful/the NTF were so easily fooled that Alpha 1 was the most loyal NTF fighter that ever breathed. :drevil:
Alpha 1 should have been promoted after being only one of the two survivors of a "Vasudan ambush" :)
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Actually, Alpha 1 and Snipes were lucky that the NTCv Sevrin took their place in being hanged.
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If I were Jack Niven I would've killed Alpha 1 on the flight deck, not let him get back into a damn fighter craft.
If I were Jack Niven, I'd have put SEVERAL reactor killers on Alpha 1's ship.
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If I were Jack Niven, I'd have put SEVERAL reactor killers on Alpha 1's ship.
Or perhaps the NTF should've sent an Orion to run him over... :drevil:
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Ehh, the GTVA would have sent in 99 99th Skulls.
It's just one of those really annoying things that happen in all storylines: The villains gloat and don't kill the good guy when they have the chance, then get bitten in the ass for it.
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Ehh, the GTVA would have sent in 99 99th Skulls.
It's just one of those really annoying things that happen in all storylines: The villains gloat and don't kill the good guy when they have the chance, then get bitten in the ass for it.
It's a method of storytelling, though, so get used to it. I think the James Bond movies tend to do things like this... :drevil:
Things like "Before you die, let me tell you my plan." or "This weapon is invincible, but it has one small weakness, and that is..."
Now where's that Evil Overlord list?
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Well, it would have been a bit abrupt ending for FS2 if there would just have been a briefing saying "We know all about you! You stole the Sunder and framed loyal NTF members to be responsible for the destruction of it. Prepare to die. *zap*". Right?
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Exactly. Which is why rules 6 to 9 of Peter's Evil Overlord List will always be violated:
6. I will not gloat over my enemies' predicament before killing them.
7. When I've captured my adversary and he says, "Look, before you kill me, will you at least tell me what this is all about?" I'll say, "No." and shoot him. No, on second thought I'll shoot him then say "No."
8. After I kidnap the beautiful princess, we will be married immediately in a quiet civil ceremony, not a lavish spectacle in three weeks' time during which the final phase of my plan will be carried out.
9. I will not include a self-destruct mechanism unless absolutely necessary. If it is necessary, it will not be a large red button labelled "Danger: Do Not Push". The big red button marked "Do Not Push" will instead trigger a spray of bullets on anyone stupid enough to disregard it. Similarly, the ON/OFF switch will not clearly be labelled as such.
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Well, it would have been a bit abrupt ending for FS2 if there would just have been a briefing saying "We know all about you! You stole the Sunder and framed loyal NTF members to be responsible for the destruction of it. Prepare to die. *zap*". Right?
Well, GTVA Command seems to do that every so often in debriefings.
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You mean the traitor/desertion debriefings?
I wonder who'd be stupid enough to run from a mission and run back to base to get hanged. Or become a traitor and return to base.
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Me?
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Me?
You CANNOT be serious. :wtf:
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Well, it would have been a bit abrupt ending for FS2 if there would just have been a briefing saying "We know all about you! You stole the Sunder and framed loyal NTF members to be responsible for the destruction of it. Prepare to die. *zap*". Right?
Well, GTVA Command seems to do that every so often in debriefings.
I hope you noticed that I used the word "briefing", referring to a silly scenario where the "briefing" (not "debriefing") of ...But Hate the Traitor would include the said execution, thus causing "sudden death" during the game, leaving the player with a high sense of wtf.
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You mean the traitor/desertion debriefings?
I wonder who'd be stupid enough to run from a mission and run back to base to get hanged. Or become a traitor and return to base.
I don't think you get hanged for desertion, "Wilfully firing on Allied ships is a Capital Offence" but there's nothing mentioned about desertion being one AFAICR.
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There are desertion persona wav files :p
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That's if you fly too far away from a certain point, I think.
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If you go 600km away using SCP, you get self-destructed.
But I meant that when you return to base without authorisation.
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Depends on the mod you play :nervous:
you could get re-assigned, lose your homebase, and end up losing th war against the french. just get a ticking off.
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"Congratulations, Alpha 1! For your incredible fighting skills against the Vasudans, your unequaled record of capital ship kills, and the disappearance of Admiral Bosch into the nebula, YOU have been made the head of the NTF!"
"****!"
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A few days ago, I reached Into the Lions' Den. I dove and lived. Again. :D
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Well, I hit my burners :( but died because I flew straight. I think I turned around everywhere the next time to see what was coming...
3rd time lucky I think. Just follow the AI.
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Well, I hit my burners :( but died because I flew straight. I think I turned around everywhere the next time to see what was coming...
3rd time lucky I think. Just follow the AI.
Speaking of the AI...do they even use their afterburners?
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Speaking of the AI...do they even use their afterburners?
no, they just have the perfect waypoints.
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Am I right to assume that they're also placed slightly lower than the player? :mad2:
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Yeah, most likely.
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Yeah, most likely.
Well crap.
Oh, look, 555 posts...
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DEM and JAD should be voice acted :p
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Yeah, it's a little weird playing JAD with MS Sam
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Yeah. Sometimes, I have to purse my lips when I hear MSS's voice from a female pilot.
Hey, make him say "soif".
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MSS makes a funny choking noise when it tries to pronounce "Soyuz" (INFR1). probably the same thing happens with "Soif".
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El-Oh-El (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Sam) :drevil:
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"SOOOOIIFFF!"
lol damn, that just made my day.
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I tried it out with my PC's Microsoft Sam, and it came out the same way.
"Soif" is pronounced as "swarf", and that isn't very difficult to pronounce properly. By rights, your voice should not go hoarse when you pronounce it, but when it comes to Microsoft Sam... :wtf:
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Is the "soy" thing a glitch?
Since I know the "crotch" turning into "crow's nest" is probably intentional.
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Maybe, but I'm not sure, because I don't like using Microsoft Sam. In fact, I prefer the Office Assistant over him.