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Title: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: SpardaSon21 on November 04, 2013, 07:45:48 pm
Since the old thread is old, dead, and doesn't list names, here is a newer one listing HLP players and servers.  Add your name and server, and I will do my best to add you.

SpardaSon21: SpardaSon21, NA
NGTM-1R: NGTM_1R, NA
Scourge of Ages: Scourge_of_Ages, NA
Droid803: Droid_803, NA
Hartzaden: zastaver, NA
Scotty: Leaderoforcs, NA
CKid: CKid, NA
TrashMan: THE_TrashMan, EU
Veers: Veers, Asia
Gortef: Fetrog, EU
Hades: haides, NA
Husker: Worf359, NA
ssmit132: Typhlomence, Asia
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Scotty on November 04, 2013, 08:34:24 pm
Scotty: Leaderoforcs, NA.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: CKid on November 04, 2013, 09:34:24 pm
CKid, NA
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Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Hades on November 04, 2013, 10:33:21 pm
I know a ton of technical and mechanical things about World of Tanks, in case people want some help improving (knowing where to shoot enemy tanks, positioning, etc) and would be glad to help.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Droid803 on November 04, 2013, 11:39:21 pm
Well if we're going to post stats...

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No unicum like CKid, but looking to improve pad stats.

EDIT: wotlabs broke or something its not updating.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: SpardaSon21 on November 04, 2013, 11:53:06 pm
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(Yes I suck hard compared to you two. :P)
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Fury on November 04, 2013, 11:56:35 pm
False advertisement in topic title, not seeing any beam firing tanks here. :(
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Scotty on November 05, 2013, 12:04:44 am
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This paints me as much better than I actually am, for some reason.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: CKid on November 05, 2013, 05:54:38 am
Like Hades, I am pretty knowledgeable about world of tanks and it would be great to platoon with members of HLP. Just message me in game to set something up, although I will be a bit busy as the 2nd Campaign starts today. Mainly free on weekends.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: crizza on November 05, 2013, 11:47:35 am
Compared to these stats I suck^^
BTW, where do one get such stat-pics?
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Droid803 on November 05, 2013, 12:03:15 pm
Compared to these stats I suck^^
BTW, where do one get such stat-pics?
http://wotlabs.net/
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: crizza on November 05, 2013, 12:22:36 pm
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This is odd...really...
While this is my Nickname, I have 5973 battles, a win ratio of 50.03% and so on...


Edit: Scratch that, wrong server, thats me, on EU1:

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Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: CKid on November 05, 2013, 04:27:26 pm
Hey guys, I created a HLP channel on World of Tanks that members can join to form platoons, share after battle reports displaying high Exp wins or just to pop in to say hello. To join, just click the "channels" tab on the lower left corner of the screen, type in HLP and click find. The password is hlp. The channel closes down after a few days so I will keep up on recreating it. See you on the battlefield.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Scourge of Ages on November 05, 2013, 06:37:10 pm
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Ouch... I have about a 15% survival rating
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: CKid on November 05, 2013, 09:28:03 pm
Well, I would say the first day of the HLP channel was a success. Lot of members showed up and even platooned with Droid. Unfortunately clanwars interrupted things so hopefully things will calm down in the coming days so there would be more time for platoons.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: TrashMan on November 06, 2013, 04:02:01 am
THE_TrashMan of course

EU servers.

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Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Veers on November 06, 2013, 05:03:03 am
When I update the game.., I'll check my details. Haven't played in months :(

Pretty sure though

Veers : Asia
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: crizza on November 06, 2013, 07:29:07 am
The Marder II 38T is a pain in the ass so far...and I fear the whole line is nimble as hell.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Gortef on November 06, 2013, 08:53:40 am
Ok then here's mine. Fetrog (because of email screwups) on the EU cluster.

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Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Hades on November 06, 2013, 09:29:58 am
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Past month has been hell for winning, while my damage has been fairly ok. My 60 day has for the past few months been in unicum territory except for recently, which says to me that solo pubbing isn't worth it anymore.

P.S. E-100 best tank.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: CKid on November 06, 2013, 12:59:30 pm
The Marder II 38T is a pain in the ass so far...and I fear the whole line is nimble as hell.

The whole line is all about big guns and no armor. HE shells are very dangerous. I free expd to the Nashorn to skip the lower tier stuff and placed my Jagdpanther 2 crew in it. Plus it shares many of the modules that 1st TD line has. Its amazing when not spotted, farming damage with the long 88 is a breeze. It is NOT a carry tank, if you lead the attack, you are doing it wrong. You will need the support of your team to spot targets and to keep the enemy at a distance. These TDs like their personal space.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Hades on November 06, 2013, 07:38:40 pm
That's entirely true, though I find all TDs below tier 10 have a hard time of carrying because of their low HP, making taking hits when necessary not an easy task.

Also, you did good in skipping the Marder 38T and so. The 38T is literally a prenerf Marder 2 thrown up a tier and given worse gun dispersion, it's weird.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: CKid on November 06, 2013, 09:35:47 pm
Droid, check your PMs for the sound mods.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: crizza on November 07, 2013, 05:50:49 am
That's entirely true, though I find all TDs below tier 10 have a hard time of carrying because of their low HP, making taking hits when necessary not an easy task.

Also, you did good in skipping the Marder 38T and so. The 38T is literally a prenerf Marder 2 thrown up a tier and given worse gun dispersion, it's weird.
Puh...I have to disagree with you here. The Ferdinand and the JP2 are neat TDs, although the JP has not the thickset armor of the Ferdi, I'm better of with this tank.
The new german TDs on the other hand have on glaring weakspot: Their turrets...
I hoped that the germans would get a TD line which includes the Ferdi, but this won't happen I guess.

Concerning the Marder 2 T38, I'll grind free XP to skip it...it just riuns my stats and normaly I play for fun...
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 07, 2013, 12:07:28 pm
Ironically the 38T does really well for me.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: TrashMan on November 08, 2013, 01:52:03 am
Ironically the 38T does really well for me.

Me too.
Cammo net + binoculars + hiding in a bush behind the front lines and snipe away.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: crizza on November 08, 2013, 07:27:27 am
Dunno, every time I play the 38t, I end up with a team of dumb guys.
Just played sand river, the whole team rushed one flank, while I and a fellow 38t tried to defend the other flank...we were simply gutted.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Husker on November 14, 2013, 07:47:12 pm
Hey now, you forgot me.
Husker = Worf359, NA server. Winrate sucks, but I've gotten a ton of stupid players. A member of the clan WNx.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Scotty on November 14, 2013, 09:52:20 pm
EDIT: To my surprise, that little signature tag several of us posted updates automatically.  The more you know.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: TrashMan on November 15, 2013, 07:58:04 am
Bloody hell, some of the the new german TD's have ridonkolous guns.
The tier V has a 220/240 gun.
The tier 7 has 750 damage gun
And the tier 10? AUTO-LOADER 560dmg, 6 shells, 2 sec between shots!!!!
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: TrashMan on November 15, 2013, 08:03:33 am
Dunno, every time I play the 38t, I end up with a team of dumb guys.
Just played sand river, the whole team rushed one flank, while I and a fellow 38t tried to defend the other flank...we were simply gutted.

A pinfull lesson I learned.
If the whole team flanks - go with them. Cap their base before they cna cap yours, rather then die for nothing.

There is an exception fi you CAN hold them off a bit. More than once I made a heroic stand and kept the enemy busy long enough for our side to secure victory. Of course, I got butchered and didn't get much points, despite how cruical my contribution was. But a victory is a victory!... excpet I'm nto doign that these days anymroe. Screw victory, gimme XP and $$$.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Hades on November 15, 2013, 08:21:35 am
Bloody hell, some of the the new german TD's have ridonkolous guns.
The tier V has a 220/240 gun.
The tier 7 has 750 damage gun
And the tier 10? AUTO-LOADER 560dmg, 6 shells, 2 sec between shots!!!!
The tier 7 does not have a 750 damage gun (the tier 8 does, though). Of course, the only really good tanks in the new line would be the 8/9/10 ones. It's a line designed to make people free xp.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Rodo on November 15, 2013, 07:09:40 pm
Wow I just registered today and I'm getting my arse handed back to me everytime.
Between the incredibly difficult gameplay and the complexity of tiers/research/etc this is turning out to be a nightmare.

Say, what tank should I use for first missions?
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Scourge of Ages on November 15, 2013, 08:09:50 pm
What's your ingame name, Rodo? One of us could show you the ropes in a training room.

Most tier 1s are basically the same (except for the british medium, ugh). So pick whichever nation has tanks you want to drive, and use those. If you get a few hits on enemy tanks in a battle and your team wins, you should have enough to upgrade to a tier 2, and pick a specific class of tank.

Anything in particular you're having trouble with?
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Scotty on November 15, 2013, 09:31:51 pm
Pretty much that.

German tanks tend to be snipers, Russian tanks tend to be brawlers, American and British tanks are pretty much middle ground, though American tanks are more burst damage and Brits are more sustained.  French tanks put out "**** you" levels of damage but are otherwise made of paper.  I've not played Chinese tanks, but they're pretty much stuff other countries used with a different name, so meh.

Play the tutorial.  It really helps.  Seriously.  Then, if you're still not keen on the general idea of how to play, find one of us in-game and say something.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Quanto on November 15, 2013, 11:26:21 pm
elQuanto, NA
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Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 16, 2013, 06:07:09 am
Brits have relatively weak but rapid-firing guns with good penetration and shred you under weight of fire, with certain high-tier exceptions (FV215b 183 is called the Death Star for a reason). Americans do everything. Russians tend to brawl, unless they're KV-series or TDs, which snipe better. Germans tend to snipe, with very very few gold HEAT round-powered exceptions.

TDs snipe, mediums snipe at first and brawl once things thin out a bit, heavies snipe unless they're Russian and not KV-line in which case they brawl, light tanks tend to rely on mobility and some distance unless they're scouting passively in which case they rely on not being seen except for Panzer ICs and ELC AMXs which are tiny armored terrorists and go crashing through the enemy line swerving everywhere spraying gunfire because screw you.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Rodo on November 16, 2013, 07:46:02 am
idk, I really love the idea of driving a Tiger. I loved it on BF1942 and that's why I've been upgrading the German light tank.
My preferred way of fighting is high-movility + high ROF weapon + close combat in tight spaces. Other kind of gaming doesn't seem to be that interesting to me.
My name ingame I think it's rododavico.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: TrashMan on November 16, 2013, 08:23:32 am
idk, I really love the idea of driving a Tiger. I loved it on BF1942 and that's why I've been upgrading the German light tank.
My preferred way of fighting is high-movility + high ROF weapon + close combat in tight spaces. Other kind of gaming doesn't seem to be that interesting to me.
My name ingame I think it's rododavico.

Go for aemircan auto-loader line then.
T71 - auto-loades scout. Fast, good camuflage.
T69 - so far my favoritetank. 4 shots inteh canister, amazing against equal or lower tiers. Against highers, it lacks penetration power.
Tier IX is ... OK (or so I'm told)
The TierX is a monster that can put 4 450 dmg round in you in 8 seconds.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Scourge of Ages on November 16, 2013, 11:43:24 am
Tiger 1 or Tiger (P) are tier VII tanks, which you could probably unlock in about 1-4 months of dedicated grinding, 5-6 if you're casual about it. I'd highly recommend going for the tank you want to drive, you'll have more fun.

The whole German medium/heavy line can brawl or snipe, once you get to tier V and the Pz IV or VK 30.01H. The lights leading to tier V are not the best, but are useful learning experiences. And I'd also recommend you get a Pz I C because that little troll is FUN.

If the tech tree is a bit confusing for you: to get either the Tiger (P) or Tiger I, you'll need to go for the Pz 35 (t) > Pz 38 (t) > Pz 38 nA (which is annoying to grind) > Pz IV (which is fun) > than choose a VK 30.01 P if you want the Tiger (P) or H if you want the Tiger I.
I prefer to upgrade everything in a tank before moving to the next one, but if you want to go straight for the Tigers, look at the research tree for each tank to see what you'll need to upgrade to unlock the next tank.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Patriot on November 16, 2013, 12:38:12 pm
Also, NEVER sell your PzIV, it's a great way to build up credits. When you have unlocked everything on it, it becomes Elite and the crew can become real good, real fast, depending on much xp you get in a battle with it. This is done via a tickbox above the crewlist in your garage, says something along of the lines of Accelerated Crew Training.
This option gives the xp you earn in battle(which would normally go into the xp pool for the tank itself for module unlocking) and puts it in the crewmember with the LEAST amount of xp, bolstering it's xp gain. This can get you to 100% decently fast, of course having a premium account helps even more so.

I sadly stopped playing this game, as the RNG mechanics of whether or not i'll penetrate even though i KNOW it's a good shot(i used to have every tank's armor and weapon pen stats memorized) is In my opinion(very important, my opinion, not fact) utterly ridiculous in a tank combat game.
Exactly the reason i'm playing WarThunder these days, because the mechanics are much less RNG reliant, if they're not gone altogether.

But hey, don't let my dislike of a core mechanic of the game give you the idea this game isn't any fun. I had fun while i played, no doubt, but that mechanic kept nagging at me and at some point this summer, it became a detriment to my fun factor. :)

Also, Pz IC is the best tank in the game, bar none. Not even one of those big fat German Tier X's can give that giant grin on your face that just won't come off no matter how hard you try to suck in it xD


Also, a personal recommendation for tank-line choice would be down the US TD line, via the Hellcat to the T110E4. I stopped when i was ALMOST at the T30, and the T28 Proto was affectionately called the Battle Chariot(it's slow and open topped :P)
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: crizza on November 16, 2013, 02:12:11 pm
E75, every day, every time :D
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Scourge of Ages on November 16, 2013, 04:17:37 pm
I've prepared a brief on shootin' tanks, using our friend the KV 1S:

While this brief focuses on a single tank, you'll find that most of them are mostly the same for shootin'. The following are general exceptions: light tanks are mostly weak everywhere, some TDs are also weak everywhere though some have decent or good front armor, and artillery (SPGs) are also weak everywhere.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img713/6712/u18w.jpg)

When attacking, aim for flat parts of the armor. If your shell hits at too shallow of an angle, it will bounce. Remember this.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img132/883/l7i2.jpg)

This is the front of a tank. You'll see this view a lot. If possible, try to not look a tank in the face, they have their strongest armor there. Always try to flank to shoot in their squishy sides or rear. That won't always be possible though, so when faced with a tank head-on, aim for weak points: lower front armor, treads, cupola and any hatches/MG ports you can see. Some tanks will also have a weak mantlet (armor surrounding the gun itself), but that you'll have to learn on a tank-by-tank basis. EDIT: And in some cases, the angle that the mantlet presents makes it a good target despite the thickness of the armor.
EDIT: The KV-1S (pictured) does not have weak points at the MG port and veiwport as the image above suggests. That doesn't mean that other tanks won't have weak points that you can see.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img22/3250/fvh8.jpg)

A smart tanker will angle his armor, like so. This will cause more ricochets, because there are no bits you can hit straight on with a shell. Your best option is to reposition, or just aim at the treads to try to track the tank. It's not impossible to score a good hit, but it will be very difficult, usually, depending on the tank.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img822/3764/2thc.jpg)

This is pretty self explanatory, I guess. Try to flank behind enemy tanks, especially if your gun has low penetration stats.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Scotty on November 16, 2013, 05:13:58 pm
Gotta disagree on the Pz I C love.  That dakka gun is just too weak to really shine in anything higher than Tier 3.  Meanwhile, my Pz 35t eats Pz I Cs for breakfast.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: SpardaSon21 on November 16, 2013, 08:25:38 pm
My Matilda and its spaced track armor laughs at the 1C, too.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Rodo on November 16, 2013, 09:43:51 pm
I finally went with the french, cause everyone hates them. Currently with the Hotchkiss.
Thanks for the tips on where to fire, I get plenty of bounces and the tips help.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Hades on November 17, 2013, 05:55:06 am
-snip-
A few things that are wrong with that guide: The UFP (or upper bit of your circled 'red zone' that's below the turret can be shot through like paper by tier 6 heavies and mediums (even tier 5 heavies). Another thing to note is, at closer ranges, it becomes a much more reliable weaskpot (despite being 10mm thicker) because you'd be shooting down into the UFP, adding angles and adding effective thickness to it. This is a constant throughout the game.

The upgraded turret (the one everyone uses which should have been in the picture) can be shot through by other tier 6 heavies if they shoot the flat spots right next to the mantlet but not the mantlet itself. The commander's cupola can be an effective weakspot too, depending on if you have to shoot up to hit it or not. Shooting the tracks directly from the front will do 0 HP damage. At best, it'll track the tank, which can or can not be useful depending on the circumstances.

The side of the turret is also fairly paperish too at the angle presented (hull armor moreso). However, at that angle, tracks can eat up shots and keep you from penetrating someone, so you'd want to shoot between the 3 small ueppr wheels and the lower set of small wheels, since the tracks don't have a hitbox in this area (or hit the thin strip of armor above that and/or turret side)

Those circular things in the back aren't weakspots, though that machine gun port is.

Also, the machine gun port and driver's slit are both not NOT weakspots in the hitbox as your image suggests. They're the same angle and thickness as the armor around them on the bitbox.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Quanto on November 17, 2013, 10:28:58 pm
I finally went with the french, cause everyone hates them. Currently with the Hotchkiss.
Thanks for the tips on where to fire, I get plenty of bounces and the tips help.
Being a french tank specialist myself (cause I'm a hipster), I don't think the french hate has any merit. The line requires a lot of skill, good driving, and intelligent decision making. Playing well in French tanks will make you godlike in other vehicles (american and russian tanks will be easymodo especially). Get good in an ELC, AMX 13 (75 & 90), ARL44, and the 50ton autoloaders, and you will love the ***** tears that pour out of the faces of Kraut-loving tankers.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Hades on November 17, 2013, 10:54:41 pm
Being a french tank specialist myself (cause I'm a hipster), I don't think the french hate has any merit. The line requires a lot of skill, good driving, and intelligent decision making. Playing well in French tanks will make you godlike in other vehicles (american and russian tanks will be easymodo especially). Get good in an ELC, AMX 13 (75 & 90), ARL44, and the 50ton autoloaders, and you will love the ***** tears that pour out of the faces of Kraut-loving tankers.
Depends on the French tank. The Foch 155 is blatantly OP, the Foch 50B is probably UP since it's useless compared to the T57 and Batchat, and the Batchat is in a nice spot between the 50B nd the 155 (also it's basically a tier 10 light tank)

The lower tier lights due take quite a bit though, boy. The 90 takes a lot of skill to use well, but I bet you missed out on its glory days just after release when it was OP. Is the 75 still crap, though? I mean, I know it's worse than the T71, but the T71 is admittedly pretty cool.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Quanto on November 17, 2013, 11:05:33 pm
[Depends on the French tank. The Foch 155 is blatantly OP, the Foch 50B is probably UP since it's useless compared to the T57 and Batchat, and the Batchat is in a nice spot between the 50B nd the 155 (also it's basically a tier 10 light tank)

The lower tier lights due take quite a bit though, boy. The 90 takes a lot of skill to use well, but I bet you missed out on its glory days just after release when it was OP. Is the 75 still crap, though? I mean, I know it's worse than the T71, but the T71 is admittedly pretty cool.

Those are all the cookie cutter things I hear from everyone who can't figure out how to drive a french tank.
The 50B is more than adequate in combat, and the T57 has a lot of nice things about it, but the 50B is in no way Under Powered, it fills its role well, and carries plenty of matches.
I hated the **** out of the T71, its too tall, its not fast enough, and its cammo rating isn't as good as the 13/75.
The 13/90 and 50/100 are both META in 7/42 battles; absolute must-have tanks. Never, EVER, sell them.

Another thing I would point out, is that the Batchat is not just a "Tier10 Light".
A light tank has a permanent cammo rating (meaning, that full cammo is active both while stationary, and on the  move), the Batchat is a Medium, it does not get the light tank cammo benefits. The batchat is best driven as a stealthy flanker, with BIA, Cammo, and Sixthsense with Clutch Breaking and Snapshot.
Active and passive scout in a Batchat is wasteful of its DPM, especially when there are plenty of suicide T71s in every pubmatch.
In clanwars its different because no caller wants to waste a slot on using a teir8 scout (13/90, WZ132). But even then, the Batchat driver can't let himself be killed early or the whole team could suffer as a result, the Burst Damage is too important to waste as a mere scout.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Husker on November 18, 2013, 07:58:33 am
Although, the early II-IV French lights towards the BatChat are quite...painful. After the AMX 40, I hear it gets a lot more fun, though.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Hades on November 18, 2013, 07:59:24 am
Those are all the cookie cutter things I hear from everyone who can't figure out how to drive a french tank.
It's all things anyone in the competitive scene says.

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The 50B is more than adequate in combat, and the T57 has a lot of nice things about it, but the 50B is in no way Under Powered, it fills its role well, and carries plenty of matches.
IT has far worse gun control than the T57, lower DPM than it, and less health. It's also bigger. It's also slower and MUCH larger than the Batchat, with less burst damage, worse camo, and similar gun control. Then again, the Batchat and T57 are both pretty much the clan wars meta right now.

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I hated the **** out of the T71, its too tall, its not fast enough, and its cammo rating isn't as good as the 13/75.
The 13/90 and 50/100 are both META in 7/42 battles; absolute must-have tanks. Never, EVER, sell them.
Newsflash, the T71 is near exactly the same height as the 75. However, even if its camo is slightly worse, it's got a better gun, better gun control, better mobility (turning and such) and better alpha. Sorry, it's just blatantly better.

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Another thing I would point out, is that the Batchat is not just a "Tier10 Light".
A light tank has a permanent cammo rating (meaning, that full cammo is active both while stationary, and on the  move), the Batchat is a Medium, it does not get the light tank cammo benefits. The batchat is best driven as a stealthy flanker, with BIA, Cammo, and Sixthsense with Clutch Breaking and Snapshot.
Active and passive scout in a Batchat is wasteful of its DPM, especially when there are plenty of suicide T71s in every pubmatch.
In clanwars its different because no caller wants to waste a slot on using a teir8 scout (13/90, WZ132). But even then, the Batchat driver can't let himself be killed early or the whole team could suffer as a result, the Burst Damage is too important to waste as a mere scout.
The Batchat is typically used in a scouting role (as well as fire support) in clan wars. Of course, it's there for its damage, but its high mobility, low size, and high camo means that it's the best tank to use for scouting and so it gets used for it early on in the battle.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: crizza on November 18, 2013, 11:37:30 am
You gotta love these battles when you in your trusty ol' Jagdtiger and when three enemies come rushing towards you you realize...the lemming train went elsewhere.
But it is still hilarious if your parking under a ledge and someone decides to kill you by parking on top of you^^

Managed this several times with my E75...
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Rodo on November 18, 2013, 11:50:54 am
what the hell are you guys talking about? I just want to shoot stuff.
AMX 40 for me right now, say: crew ppl can learn just one skill or you can stack a few of these on the same guy?
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: crizza on November 18, 2013, 12:05:58 pm
The AMX40...slow as hell, ugly as well, but damn, playing this was so much fun, it's so bouncy^^
each crew can only learn one skill at a time, once this skill reaches 100%, a new one can be chosen..
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Rodo on November 18, 2013, 12:35:01 pm
But if learned the effects stack up right?
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Scotty on November 18, 2013, 12:52:48 pm
Yes.

However, there are differences between Skills and Perks.  The description of whatever skill/perk it is will tell you in the description which it is.  Skills come into effect immediately and incrementally, meaning that a 75% in that skill is better than a 50% in that skill is better than a 25% in that skill.  Perks, however, come into effect only once you hit 100% again, so that 75% is the exact same as the 50% as the 25%. 

If you for some reason drop below 100% qualification again, all of your skills and perks stop working until you get it back up.  Experience saved up and not spent on another new skill/perk immediately is used toward regaining 100% qualification on the next skill, so sometimes it's beneficial not to take a new skill until you hit the next tank.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Patriot on November 18, 2013, 01:08:16 pm
I was going to explain quite a few things here, but why do it with words, when i can just point you to this video.
Mr. Quickybaby here is an awesome WoT player, and can be seen here, teaching you crew skills


Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: SpardaSon21 on November 18, 2013, 01:13:56 pm
I was lucky enough to have a friend gift me a TOG II* so we could TOG platoon, and I have to say a TOG platoon is one of the most fun things out there in WoT. :D
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Patriot on November 18, 2013, 01:29:54 pm
KV-2 mortal enemy of TOG
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Rodo on November 18, 2013, 01:31:45 pm
I still get my ass handed back to me, but I kinda cope with it. The most frustrating stuff is to find my weapon completely ineffective against other tanks. I only get bounces or criticals on the tracks and the game keeps putting me against tier V's and VI when I'm only IV.
Still, I love the challenge and gonna keep pushing dem bastards till they break.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 18, 2013, 01:54:00 pm
That's the tragedy of French low-tiers. Realize that your armor is so good you can't actually penetrate yourself through the glacis with any of your guns, and you'll learn to cope.

You'll discover the other tragedy when you hit the AMX 12t.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Rodo on November 18, 2013, 02:01:30 pm
Had a hilarious stand up with the AMX 38, this other guy was on the rival team and we crossed ourselves on an open road. Started shooting at each other right away (as I always do, gotta remember not to do that).

Since none of our rounds penetrated he decided to ram me and we ended up crashing front to front shooting each other for like a hole minute or so until one of my teammates came round his back and holed him.

I landed like 8 crits on his turret, not sure if I killed the commander or what cause he kept firing nevertheless.

Now that I think about it, was not that hilarious  :doubt:
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Hades on November 18, 2013, 02:16:43 pm
use gold rounds, they make armor a fantasy
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Scotty on November 18, 2013, 03:28:24 pm
They also make your bank account a fantasy at low tiers.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Hades on November 18, 2013, 03:40:48 pm
Not if you have the sense to use them sparingly and when necessary...
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Rodo on November 18, 2013, 04:08:16 pm
Not gonna invest any kind of money on this as of yet, maybe later.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Scotty on November 18, 2013, 04:16:28 pm
You can get "gold" ammo with credits.  It's just prohibitively expensive to use more than a few rounds a game.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Husker on November 18, 2013, 04:37:33 pm
I love the Brit Churchill I. I also love sniping with it, though everyone tells me to charge. It's a Churchy, it can't charge lol.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Scourge of Ages on November 18, 2013, 04:55:32 pm
My B1 makes gold rounds a necessity. I like when I can pen other tanks with standard AP, but it's unfortunately pretty rare when shooting into front armor. I throw gold and take the credits loss. But then... there are times when I have a good side or rear shot, or are facing lights at lower tiers... B1 is a fun tank sometimes.

Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Veers on November 27, 2013, 10:55:30 pm
Got myself back online, either using my British Matilda (Tier IV) or my US M5 Stuart (Tier IV).

Also, it says my server is just W.O.T.  so I have no idea if I'm still on an Oceanic /Asian server or what. Ping hasn't changed though
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: mralexs on December 03, 2013, 07:07:15 pm
Heres mine
(http://mywotstats.com/Player/SigCustom/1003056206/NA/SigCustom.png)
I suck  :sigh:
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Droid803 on December 04, 2013, 02:02:32 am
Don't worry about your stats, you've just started. Everyone sucks when first learning to play the piano, etc.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Veers on December 04, 2013, 04:23:56 am
Question, how is everyone posting their stats?

I cant find an option or anything to do so
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: CKid on December 04, 2013, 06:58:15 am
Step 1: Goto http://www.wotlabs.net/
Step 2: Type in your player name and make sure you are on the correct server
Step 3: Halfway down the screen, find FORUM SIGNATURE IMAGE. Select a shade and the link for the signature will be displayed just below.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Rodo on December 04, 2013, 07:53:23 am
That's not working for me, says there's no data for my user. Is it because I'm on NA-east and there's no NA-east option?
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Patriot on December 04, 2013, 09:45:17 am
The default server is NA, east and west is in-client separation and doesn't influence stats whatsoever.

here's my stuff, though i haven't played in months

(http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/HerrFlex/signature.png)
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Scotty on December 04, 2013, 10:22:09 am
It's probably because you haven't played enough.  I want to say you need a minimum of 2000 battles to use wotlabs.  Whatever mralexs just used isn't wotlabs, and obviously records with a sample size less than 2000.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Veers on December 04, 2013, 04:04:25 pm
Yea, Wotlabs requires atleast 2000 battles, I'm somewhere betweeen 300 and 500 iirc.

Nice site though, very helpful
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Oddgrim on December 04, 2013, 04:25:17 pm
Heres mine, although have not played in some time.
(http://mywotstats.com/Player/Sig/511924233/EU/Sig.png)
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: CKid on December 16, 2013, 06:05:43 pm
Just a heads up for the WoT players. http://worldoftanks.com/en/news/22/holiday-specials-2013/

Tons of specials beginning today. Looks like the best one is the double exp for wins and loses thats starts on the 20th. If you got more time on your hands than you know what to do with, you can try and get a "free" IS-6.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Rodo on December 16, 2013, 07:50:17 pm
Here's mine.

(http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/rododavico/signature.png)

Le sucky bastard.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Scourge of Ages on December 23, 2013, 11:25:21 pm
Game updated! 8.10! Japanese tanks! New graphics!
Banzai!
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Patriot on December 24, 2013, 07:06:14 am
New graphics!

saywut
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Rodo on December 24, 2013, 07:08:49 am
Shadows and lighting DO look really good now, the entire bunch of maps seem more realistic.
Also, prepare to be flooded with jap tanks, it seems to be mating season or something  :p
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Scourge of Ages on January 01, 2014, 10:32:20 pm
http://worldoftanks.com/en/news/17/HappyNY/

Not sure, but I think it's three days of free premium time!
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Veers on January 01, 2014, 11:14:22 pm
As I'm well below the 2000 minimum. Not much shows up

(http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/sea/Veers/signature.png)
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: CKid on January 03, 2014, 03:23:52 pm
http://worldoftanks.com/en/news/17/HappyNY/

Not sure, but I think it's three days of free premium time!

Geez, how the heck did I miss that!?

Any who, a video was released explaining what kind of new stuff awaits us this year.

http://worldoftanks.com/en/news/33/asap-16/
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Husker on January 03, 2014, 06:42:08 pm
Yeah, cool! Except I can't experience any of this because on my main comp I have no Internet.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: CKid on March 21, 2014, 05:14:37 pm
 :bump:

Its sooooo beautiful....


Also, historical battles come out next update.

Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Droid803 on March 21, 2014, 05:56:52 pm
>StuG III and Pz IV split

So...time to rebuy the StuG and a Panzer4 for free garage slots?
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Rodo on March 21, 2014, 07:01:46 pm
I just got the Hellcat for historical battles, it's a bump I didn't keep the Tiger I for this.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: CKid on March 21, 2014, 07:12:26 pm
Here is 3 confirmed historical battles and their tank line up

Lake Balaton offensive

Map: Erlenberg
Vehicles:
USSR – IS, T-34, T-34-85, ISU-152, SU-100, SU-76
Germany – Stug III, Tiger II, Panther, Pz IV, Jagdtiger(lol), Jagdpanther

Battle of Kursk

Map: Prokhorovka
Vehicles:
USSR – SU-152, KV-1S, SU-85, T-34, T-70, SU-76,
Germany – Ferdinand, Pz IV, Panther, Tiger I, StuG III, Pz II, Pz III

Ardennes Offensive

Map: Erlenberg
Vehicles:
USA – M10 Wolverine, M18 Hellcat, M36 Jackson, M4A3E8 Sherman, M4A3E2 Sherman Jumbo
Germany – Jagdpanther, Pz IV, Panther, Tiger I, StuG III, Tiger II
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Rodo on March 21, 2014, 07:17:14 pm
Ahhh! Tigaaaa tuuu I got yesss.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: SpardaSon21 on March 22, 2014, 01:01:30 am
I am not looking forwards to the Ardennes Offensive as the Americans.  Our top tier tank is 6, and not even a single heavy tank in our list, and the Germans get three tier 7 tanks in their list and a tier 8 heavy.  Unless we get a ****load more tanks than they do, the disparity in hit points will be staggering, not to mention they'll simply have way more 88's than we'll have 90mm's.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Droid803 on March 22, 2014, 02:38:21 am
Those poor SU-76s. Tier III having to go against tier 8s (ferdis) and 9s (jagdtigers).

I am not looking forwards to the Ardennes Offensive as the Americans.  Our top tier tank is 6, and not even a single heavy tank in our list, and the Germans get three tier 7 tanks in their list and a tier 8 heavy.  Unless we get a ****load more tanks than they do, the disparity in hit points will be staggering, not to mention they'll simply have way more 88's than we'll have 90mm's.

They'll never see your (probably 76mm-armed) hellcats, don't worry.

EDIT:

Battles end up looking like this (http://i.imgur.com/rhuOvyg.jpg) apparently. Who whudda thunk?
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: crizza on March 22, 2014, 06:02:34 am
I thought they were boasting that historical battles would be somehow fair, like 5 Tiger against a ****load of T-34^^
But with the same numbers on every team...well
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Patriot on March 24, 2014, 05:25:13 pm
Well, that being test server, i have seen videos of Historical Battles being balanced in the way crizza mentioned.

A JagdPanther, a JagdTiger and a Tiger II against around 7 Russian tanks, of which 5 were IS's
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Rodo on March 24, 2014, 06:32:12 pm
They will turn out being a challenge, on whichever side you are playing. It's not like they are giving you a fully upgraded Tiger II or Ferdi anyway.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: CKid on March 24, 2014, 07:40:09 pm
Well, that being test server, i have seen videos of Historical Battles being balanced in the way crizza mentioned.

A JagdPanther, a JagdTiger and a Tiger II against around 7 Russian tanks, of which 5 were IS's

It depends on the historical battle that you select, 1 battle will have even teams, others will have more uneven teams. Having played it, you can very well be out matched depending on the tank you select. A stock T-34 cant pen a tiger so you have act as a scout for your TDs.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Droid803 on April 18, 2014, 01:16:53 pm
So yay! 9.0 is out.

Shiny graphics! ...except there's a bit of FPS dip so I had to lower my settings and things look about the same as before (though I've heard good things about how the tanks with HD suspensions handle, yay)
Historical battles! ...except every single person in the queue is queuing in a Tiger or Tiger II, haven't managed to get in one yet because there aren't enough players to form my team (queuing in an IS for about 2 minutes, I was the only person queuing as a non-german-heavy...)
Map changes! ...this one's working totally fine! Yay. Played on the edited Malinovka and Severgosk, interesting changes.

I've also heard reports of people getting wild CTDs during battles. Didn't run into any yesterday, so fingers crossed. (though I suppose this accounts for the greater number of 'afk' players I noticed...)
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Rodo on April 18, 2014, 01:51:50 pm
I've also heard reports of people getting wild CTDs during battles. Didn't run into any yesterday, so fingers crossed. (though I suppose this accounts for the greater number of 'afk' players I noticed...)

It's true, I just had a crash while playing on my hellcat. Reloaded and half way into map load a crash again, tried a third time and the same.
Not gonna try anymore today, I got the double bonus anyway.

Historical battles are just bogus, I could never queue as Tiger II as you say, but managed to get a few games on my hellcat. Won every single time. Seems like winning a historical running as German will be the tough mission to achieve.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: NGTM-1R on April 18, 2014, 02:46:47 pm
I've also heard reports of people getting wild CTDs during battles. Didn't run into any yesterday, so fingers crossed. (though I suppose this accounts for the greater number of 'afk' players I noticed...)

I was basically cheated out of a six-kill win by a CTD yesterday; my first attempt to relog also did so.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: crizza on April 20, 2014, 05:49:16 pm
CTD?
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: CKid on April 20, 2014, 06:35:48 pm
Crash To Desktop
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: NGTM-1R on April 20, 2014, 10:45:37 pm
I've confirmed if you crash, you can't get back into the game while that match is ongoing; you'll keep CTDing.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: ssmit132 on May 10, 2014, 03:30:15 am
I've got World of Tanks now, so here's my details:

ssmit132: Typhlomence, Asia.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: TechnoD11 on November 07, 2014, 09:42:30 pm
hopefully I'm not just digging up an old thread here, but here's my details

TechnoD11
Server: NA

(KV2 Best Tank  :lol: )
(http://drongo-lab.ru/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/5049f22.jpg)
(http://image.spreadshirt.com/image-server/v1/compositions/106970529/views/1,width=280,height=280,appearanceId=5.png/russian-bias_design.png)
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: StarSlayer on November 07, 2014, 10:35:50 pm
UID: TheStarSlayer
Server: NA

You'll find me in the burned out M4A1 76(W)
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: Patriot on November 08, 2014, 04:07:52 am
Not sure if i gave my ID yet, but eh

ID: HerrFlex
Clan: MWV
Server: NA(i know, a silly european playing on an NA server)

You can find me either ninja-moding in a T28 Proto/T30 or prowling the field in T-34-85/SU-85/SU-122-44 as those are my currently available tonks
KV-2s are for sissies! :D <3
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 08, 2014, 05:40:26 am
Really should have kept my KV-2, the derp's become good again.
Title: Re: World of Tanks: Beams und Panzer Edition
Post by: CKid on November 09, 2014, 11:20:01 am
With all the paper armour (Japanese tanks, German second medium line, waffenträger line, and high tier lights) running around, the derps have a place again. There's been a number of times that my T49 has one-shoted targets.