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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
WHEN IS FINISHED BP WAR IN HEAVEN

 

Offline The E

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When it is done. Stop yelling.
If I'm just aching this can't go on
I came from chasing dreams to feel alone
There must be changes, miss to feel strong
I really need lifе to touch me
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when is done and finished

 

Offline The E

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As stated numerous times, we can't tell you, because we do not know. Best guess right now is "sometime in 2012", but even that comes with a big question mark.
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Hurry uuuuuupp!  :(  :( :(

 

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isn't that "you most make update" guy?
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Yes, it is he.
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Offline qwadtep

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Hey, can anyone confirm if Delenda Est is broken? The beam jamming doesn't seem to work anymore.

 
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I didn't notice any problems when I played through Delenda Est a few days ago. Which ships that weren't supposed to be able to fire their beams did so, and when?

 

Offline Aesaar

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In my experience, the two Aeolus cruisers have a tendency to fire their beams.  Not really much of an issue, considering what the SGreen is like. 

Just throwing this out there: the Carthage looks awesome firing BBlues and TerSlashBlues.  I'm sure there's a reason it doesn't have them as standard, but it looks great.

 
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Yeah, I've noticed the Aeolus cruisers firing their beams as well. I interpret beam jamming as ECM against specific targeting systems, rather than blanket ECM against every direct-fire beam in the area. The Wargods know the stats on the SGreen, and assign their jamming accordingly. :p

 

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Just throwing this out there: the Carthage looks awesome firing BBlues and TerSlashBlues.  I'm sure there's a reason it doesn't have them as standard, but it looks great.

It's a Combat Evaluation Unit destroyer, one of the few Orion-class destroyers that are spared the trip to the scrapyard and are instead retrofitted with the newest armaments. In addition to the new beam weapons it has, the Carthage also has a prototype subspace drive similar to the Atreus', allowing it to make quick, short-range jumps, as well as a reinforced hull that can shrug off significant damage from weapons of mass. It is probably not economical for the GTVA to retrofit every single Orion that survived the Second Shivan Incursion, but the Orion is a very rugged and durable design, which makes it a perfect vessel for the Alliance's engineers to slap on their new toys and see how they work on the field. At the very least, it's still better than using a Faustus cruiser to test things. :P
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Offline MatthTheGeek

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The Carthage doesn't mount and will never mount blue beams. Why ? because contrary to green beams, who were designed with compatibility with older power grids in mind (which is why you can see them mounted on Fenrises and stuff), blue beams were designed with and require the newer designs with newer meson-based power grids to operate. You just can't replace a green beam with a blue beam without changing the whole power grid and reactor system, and you'd be better at building the whole ship from scratch at that rate.

The issue is similar to Capella-era Vasudan beams. We know for example that the Typhon had power grid issues, whereas the Terran warships could mount green beams left and right with no trouble.
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Well, that explains why Deimos corvettes still use the TerSlash...
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Offline rubixcube

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I recently tried BP WIH with all FS2 era ships retrofitted with blue beams, the mod is actually still fairly balanced, sort of.
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Offline crizza

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Well, that explains why Deimos corvettes still use the TerSlash...
The Question remains, how difficult it is to change the powergrid and reactor of Deimos, which have yet to be built.

 

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It would be stupid. Deimoses are still built because they are efficient AND cheap and easy to maintain. Meson reactors and blue beams AREN'T cheap.

If you really want blue beams, you open your purse and build a true Diomedes or Chimera. There's no point in trying to adapt old designs with new tech when you already have new-gen ships fine-tuned for those.
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666maslo666: Releasing a finished product is not a good thing! It is a modern fad.

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Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

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batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
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Ask the Vasudans how well refitting the typhons for beams worked out for them
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Offline crizza

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Yeah, yeah, I know about the Typhon and so on and honestly, I just forget about the Diomedes, or the other new vets.
This is a rather personal thing, since I'm in love with the Deimos since I first played the game after it was released^^

 

Offline -Norbert-

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Considering it's depicted on the cover of the box, even before playing FS2, in my case :P