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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Yeah but if it's coming out like a single projectile with a trail instead of a beam it's not going to convince anyone (and it WILL look like a projectile with a trail if it is a projectile with a trail)

Well, isn't that what Volition did with the Lucifer in FS1? That seemed to work just fine...
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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Well, isn't that what Volition did with the Lucifer in FS1? That seemed to work just fine...

I take it you haven't played without the Port in awhile, because it actually looked pretty bad back in the day.
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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Here's what it looked like way back when: http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL38D3D5954E105849&v=wH1tT8QNh14&feature=player_detailpage#t=417s

I forgot the Lucifer used to fire orange rainbows instead of beams.

 
Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Here's what it looked like way back when: http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL38D3D5954E105849&v=wH1tT8QNh14&feature=player_detailpage#t=417s

I forgot the Lucifer used to fire orange rainbows instead of beams.

Actually, that looks exactly right. I was remembering the Shivan Super Laser--the one I had used the cheats to force my primaries into; it looks just like that.

And come to think of it, though, it doesn't look half bad--make it a bit more varied and 'incoherent', and it'd look pretty interesting. It has a less efficient, solid look to it. More like a streaking blob of plasma.
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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
If we could have beams curving away from a target, or decohering near one, we would have done that. Unfortunately, the engine doesn't know how to do that.
What about a beam that has zero range and 1000 meters or so worth of beam fade distance? Not nearly as cool as curving beams, but it could still look pretty good.

And now I'll go don my asbestos underwear to prepare for the consequences of mentioning beam fade in any context. :p

 

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Is it possible to fire more than one beam from a single turret? if it was, you could make a special Serker (or whatever's needed) clone that has dummy beams that don't do any damage and have a different look (say one looks like the hue, another looks less blueish, and one is animated to look like it has a flux, then have those fired on invisible dummies around (and close) to a target.

To compensate the need to have more beams, you could make some of the dishes not fire at all or have a single fake beam with a screwy charge up that shuts off (It never fires basically)

 
Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Would Spoon's route work? He has curving 'beams' by making the shots secondaries with laser-like appearances and very long trails. It wouldn't quite be a beam, but it would have some in-story leeway given that the beam is supposed to be heavily messed with in multiple ways through ECM.
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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Now update for Tenebra! The image below is the state of things at the end of Tenebra.
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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Steele's going to have a very uphill fight against him when he fights to liberate Earth from the Elders.  Dammit, that Byrne is smarter than he looks saving First Fleet for a situation like this.  Hmm, I wonder what would happen to the balance of forces if the Fedayeen and Third Fleet decided the Elders no longer had mankind's best interests in mind...
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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Steele's going to have a very uphill fight against him when he fights to liberate Earth from the Elders.  Dammit, that Byrne is smarter than he looks saving First Fleet for a situation like this.  Hmm, I wonder what would happen to the balance of forces if the Fedayeen and Third Fleet decided the Elders no longer had mankind's best interests in mind...

That picture doesn't seem to include the Vengeance/Phoenicia battle group, which is a full-strength formation including corvette and cruiser escorts, nor the presence of the Agamemnon and Insuperable (a Titan/Raynor pair) being moved into position nearby, including their next-generation escorts and fighters, nor the possible Ilium/Pallas battlegroup, another full-strength formation with warship escorts and logistics train, which may be in position to surge through the node.

Not that the GTVA can realistically operate all these ships in Sol for any length of time, but the sheer strategic pressure here isn't quite captured by the picture.

 
Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Ah, I was wondering where all those ships that were mentioned after Her Finest Hour were.  Seems like the GTVA really does have the means to pull off one big decisive battle at Earth if they feel they can risk losing those assets.
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17:37:11   SpardaSon21: even the males?
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[21:51] <@Droid803> I now realize
[21:51] <@Droid803> this will be SLIIIIIGHTLY awkward
[21:51] <@Droid803> as this rich psychic girl will now be tsundere for a loli.
[21:51] <@Droid803> OH WELLL.

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[07:57:32] <Caiaphas> inspired by HerraTohtori i built a supermaneuverable plane in ksp
[07:57:43] <Caiaphas> i just killed my pilots with a high-g maneuver
[07:58:19] <Caiaphas> apparently people can't take 20 gees for 5 continuous seconds
[08:00:11] <Caiaphas> the plane however performed admirably, and only crashed because it no longer had any guidance systems

 

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Uh...the Phoenicia? Now I have to play the whole day to see her :)
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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
No, unfortunately, it does not since I have no way of knowing what ships are in which battlegroup, so the Vengeance/Phoenicia battlegroup only contains the ships seen in the ending cutscene, which is 2 Hecates, 1 Deimos, and 2 Leviathans.
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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Gaiain Effort Section please!

 

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Full GTVA representation please.

 

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
I don't think that would fit in that screenshot assuming the same scale, judging from what was listed over IRC :P
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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
The 5th Battlegroup will **** you up.

 

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Even though this recent picture looks a little worse than the previous one, is there still hope for me as a GTVA supporter?  :D

 
Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Plenty.  That picture doesn't show the new corvette and cruiser assets of the new battlegroups or the Agamemnon/Insuperable battlegroup that's waiting behind the node to jump in when Steele calls them in for his final assault.  That last battlegroup isn't deployed to Sol, but they're definitely a reserve formation.
17:37:02   Quanto: I want to have sexual intercourse with every space elf in existence
17:37:11   SpardaSon21: even the males?
17:37:22   Quanto: its not gay if its an elf

[21:51] <@Droid803> I now realize
[21:51] <@Droid803> this will be SLIIIIIGHTLY awkward
[21:51] <@Droid803> as this rich psychic girl will now be tsundere for a loli.
[21:51] <@Droid803> OH WELLL.

See what you're missing in #WoD and #Fsquest?

[07:57:32] <Caiaphas> inspired by HerraTohtori i built a supermaneuverable plane in ksp
[07:57:43] <Caiaphas> i just killed my pilots with a high-g maneuver
[07:58:19] <Caiaphas> apparently people can't take 20 gees for 5 continuous seconds
[08:00:11] <Caiaphas> the plane however performed admirably, and only crashed because it no longer had any guidance systems

 

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Even though this recent picture looks a little worse than the previous one, is there still hope for me as a GTVA supporter?  :D

You ask this question in every thread and you're still getting the fundamentals wrong every time.  :p The picture does not include all the GTVA ships in play, and if it did, it would not look worse than the previous one.