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Offline CT27

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Sorry.

A different question then...  :p

Were there different models of Hecates made?  The Hecate that's in the 'middle' of the GTVA destroyers looks bigger than the other two.

 

Offline aeon48m

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Sorry.

A different question then...  :p

Were there different models of Hecates made?  The Hecate that's in the 'middle' of the GTVA destroyers looks bigger than the other two.
No, just a tidbit of image editing.
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Offline Crybertrance

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Even though this recent picture looks a little worse than the previous one, is there still hope for me as a GTVA supporter?  :D

I guess the correct question would be:

"Even though this recent picture looks a little worse than the previous one, is there still hope for me as a GTVA UEF supporter?  :D "

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Offline CT27

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater

That picture doesn't seem to include the Vengeance/Phoenicia battle group, which is a full-strength formation including corvette and cruiser escorts, nor the presence of the Agamemnon and Insuperable (a Titan/Raynor pair) being moved into position nearby, including their next-generation escorts and fighters, nor the possible Ilium/Pallas battlegroup, another full-strength formation with warship escorts and logistics train, which may be in position to surge through the node.


What kind of destroyers are the Vengeance/Phoenicia and Ilium/Pallas?

 

Offline Mars

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Vengeance/Phonecia is probably a pair of Hecates (we know one is a Hecate), though there is a small chance that the Vengeance is an Orion.

 

Offline starlord

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
we know the meridian has withdrawn, but what of the hood and requiem? are those still in sol?

 

Offline Crybertrance

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Vengeance/Phonecia is probably a pair of Hecates (we know one is a Hecate), though there is a small chance that the Vengeance is an Orion.

Nope, both destroyers are Hecate class (from: Debriefing and Tebra outro mission file)
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Offline crizza

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
we know the meridian has withdrawn, but what of the hood and requiem? are those still in sol?
The Hood is still in system, while the Requiem was forced to withdraw after an ambush.
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Offline Crybertrance

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
we know the meridian has withdrawn, but what of the hood and requiem? are those still in sol?
The Hood is still in system, while the Requiem was forced to withdraw after an ambush.

The Requiem's ambush was well before the events of WiH iirc.
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Offline Crybertrance

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Why does the UEFg Masyaf have a registry of FA 1337? Since the "A" in FA is for Artillery and the Masyaf is clearly not an Artillery ship?
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Offline SF-Junky

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Why does the UEFg Masyaf have a registry of FA 1337? Since the "A" in FA is for Artillery and the Masyaf is clearly not an Artillery ship?
Eh, actually is the Masyaf clearly is an Artillery ship.

 

Offline The E

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
All Narayana-class Frigates are classified as "FA".

By the way, "FA" does not stand for Artillery Frigate. FG means "Frigate/General", FA stands for "Frigate/Assault"
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Offline Crybertrance

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Why does the UEFg Masyaf have a registry of FA 1337? Since the "A" in FA is for Artillery and the Masyaf is clearly not an Artillery ship?
Eh, actually is the Masyaf clearly is an Artillery ship.

IIRC the pre-fit Narayana (like the Masyaf) is not an Artillery frigate, it was meant to be a Heavy Assault frigate. But the Tev incursion caused the Council of Elders (?) to have them upgraded with Artillery guns, so that they could outrange the beam weapons on most Tev warships.

All Narayana-class Frigates are classified as "FA".

By the way, "FA" does not stand for Artillery Frigate. FG means "Frigate/General", FA stands for "Frigate/Assault"

Oh, I thought that the FA was Frigate/Artillery and FG, Frigate/General. Thanks for clearing that up The E!
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Offline CT27

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
What class are the Illium and Pallas?  General Battuta's post is the first I've heard of them.

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Why does the UEFg Masyaf have a registry of FA 1337? Since the "A" in FA is for Artillery and the Masyaf is clearly not an Artillery ship?
Eh, actually is the Masyaf clearly is an Artillery ship.

No it isn't, it lacks the usual Narayana main guns. I think you can even see this on the model (unless we screwed something up).

 

Offline crizza

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
What class are the Illium and Pallas?  General Battuta's post is the first I've heard of them.
Puh...difficult.
Given Battuta mentioned them as a fully operational battlegruop with warship escort and logistic train, my first thought was "Another Raynor and Titan pair" but after all named combos consisted of a member of the house of Atreus and a name of venerable navy ships it doesn't see to fit.
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Offline Aesaar

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
I think Battuta mentioned on IRC that the Ilium and Pallas are also Hecates.  Maybe one is an Orion.

 

Offline Ranger1

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Why does the UEFg Masyaf have a registry of FA 1337? Since the "A" in FA is for Artillery and the Masyaf is clearly not an Artillery ship?
Eh, actually is the Masyaf clearly is an Artillery ship.

No it isn't, it lacks the usual Narayana main guns. I think you can even see this on the model (unless we screwed something up).

I still have no techroom entries with WIH pt3 so I just checked in the dreamscape mission.  It is not an artilary ship.  2 what appear to be landing bays replace the big guns.

My ship tally is a little different since I destroyed every last one of the escorts in "Her finest hour", including the fleeing deimos with the gas miners, and captured the Carthage and saved the Santuary.  On medium of course.  Hard is too damn hard for me...lol
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Offline Mars

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Tally is the same - the list is for immediately before Artemis. A revised list could be very hard to make, because what ships players destroy or fail to destroy is largely determined by fate. The UEC Vilnius for instance could be rescued, but it was likely destroyed. By that same token, most Deimos corvettes have the capability of being disabled (but not all.) Even forces that were not destroyed but are present on that list (like the massive battle ships) may have been rotated out. Nor is a single Custos or Cretheus listed, even though we know that they should exist prior to the middle of the war.

Combine that with the knowledge that the Tevs DO have things like the Aegis variant of the Diomedes, but we haven't seen it thus far, the fact that the UEF has taken massive losses between Act II and Act III - losses that we have very little idea about the details of, the fact the Tevs are flexing in several battlegroups, the fact the SOC and Fadayeen probably don't list their forces in detail, and you realize that making a detailed orbat at this stage of the war is probably actually impossible without massive Dev guidance.

 

Offline CT27

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Re: Forces deployed in the Sol Theater
Just to make sure I have the count right:

Assuming nothing happens between Tenebra and the final release part of WIH, the GTVA will have six destroyers in Sol (or were the new destroyers not already in Sol in the end scene)?
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