[Goober5000]

Judging by the sheer number of times a fs2_open.log is needed for troubleshooting something or another, I figured it was long past time to add something like this to the site.

As of today, typing

[fs2_open.log]

will produce

Please post your fs2_open.log file.  Instructions on how to do this can be found in this post.

[mjn.mixael]

So you mean I don't need to keep this in Notepad for such a situation? (for easy copy/paste)

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[Goober5000]

There's no reason anyone can't continue to use his preferred method.

[Arpit]

Ah.. fs2_open.log. Good. Good.

But.. hey... what about fred2_open.log ?

[Luis Dias]

OMG this is hilarious! You could have named it shorter though! MAKE A NEW BOOOTTTUN!

[rscaper1070]

MatthTheGeek will be pleased.

[Goober5000]

Okay, I've added [fred2_open.log].  And I've also added the aliases [fsolog] and [fredlog].

[jg18]

Any chance that mjn's version could become [fs2_open.log2] ?

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[The E]

I'm gonna veto that. As cute as the pic is, I like the pure text version much more.

[Goober5000]

I'm going to veto that as well, since as cute as the pic is, "investigate" is spelled wrong.

[FreeSpaceFreak]

Please post your fs2_open.log file.  Instructions on how to do this can be found in this post.

Hey, that's awesome! What are the odds for getting a forum bot to post these? (j/k)

[MatthTheGeek]

Bump

Could someone fix the two spaces between the sentences? It's pushing my OCD buttons in a bad way :<

[jg18]

Are we going to get into the one space vs. two spaces debate?

Even if two spaces is totally wrong, many people in the States and possibly elsewhere use it, and Goober (who presumably wrote the BBCode tag) is one of them.

EDIT: Speaking of OCD-ness, I always feel compelled to write my posts so that the capitalized 'P' in "Please" is grammatically correct in context.

[Kopachris]

Are we going to get into the one space vs. two spaces debate?

Even if two spaces is totally wrong, many people in the States and possibly elsewhere use it, and Goober (who presumably wrote the BBCode tag) is one of them.

I wouldn't take much stock in typographical advice from an article that uses straight quotes and leaves dialog from two different people in the same paragraph.  Not to mention the contradiction between "two spaces is unequivocally wrong" and "Is this arbitrary? Sure it is."  Personally, I find one-space paragraphs cramped.  The extra space between sentences makes it easier to skim through a paragraph if I'm looking for a particular sentence.  To use their own analogy, using one space after a sentence is just as "right" as having the salad fork on the left--yeah, the authorities tell us that's right, but it really doesn't matter.  It's just a style convention, like having punctuation inside the quotation mark versus outside.  Personally, I think if pretty much everyone else says two spaces is right, then the typographers are the ones who are wrong.  But it really doesn't ****ing matter. 

LaTeX adds extra space between sentences, though.

[Goober5000]

The capital P is the more important issue.  If I had thought ahead, I would have made [fs2_open.log] use lowercase P and [Fs2_open.log] use uppercase P, but that would affect several posts if I changed it at this point.

[niffiwan]

Those posts would all be oldish now though, why not change it so that new uses of the bbcode work "as expected"?

[Goober5000]

Yeah, might as well.  Done.

[AdmiralRalwood]

It's just a style convention, like having punctuation inside the quotation mark versus outside.

One of which is labelled the "Logical Style" for a reason.

The point was that all conventions are arbitrary, and that the only argument in favour of two spaces is "that's the way I was taught." Now, Kopachris has said that "[t]he extra space between sentences makes it easier to skim through a paragraph if I'm looking for a particular sentence", but that's just personal experience; I don't find it any harder to skim through a single-spaced paragraph to look for a particular sentence. Looking at his two-spaced paragraph just makes everything look "riddled with holes", as the article says. As it also says, "it also requires less work, which isn't nothing." (That's less work to type, not read; as the article also pointed out, there's apparently no difference in readability; just aesthetics.) If presented with two arbitrary choices that no one can clearly agree on a qualitative difference but one involves even marginally less work, it just seems common sense to go with that one.

Even if two spaces is totally wrong, many people in the States and possibly elsewhere use it

Nobody in this part of the States; not a single person used two spaces after a period throughout my entire school experience. Neither the teachers nor the students.

[MatthTheGeek]

Are we going to get into the one space vs. two spaces debate?

Even if two spaces is totally wrong, many people in the States and possibly elsewhere use it, and Goober (who presumably wrote the BBCode tag) is one of them.

._.

Where the **** does that come from? Never heard of this.

It doesn't even remotely try to make any sense. if you wanted more space after your point, why wouldn't you just make a font that has more space after a point?

[The E]

This is literally the most stupid argument I have seen on this board in a long time.

Matt: Just because you haven't seen a particular convention doesn't mean it does not exist or is stupid.