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Offline DefCynodont119

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Re: Brown boxes.
Reply #100 on: February 07, 2020, 05:45:33 pm
Can't you just like, make new reflect maps? I don't see how re-texturing ships is so difficult. .

I'd just open it up in paint.net and recolor, then darken/lighten the reflect map until it looks right. (with PCS2 open in another tap so I can compare changes in real time) It's worked for me before.
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Re: Brown boxes.
Reply #101 on: February 07, 2020, 05:58:54 pm
You better delete the post before Nyx sees that. :p

Well I tried myself here and there, it's certainly more difficult than that; it doesn't look totally broken so you can just take your chance, but it's a non-professional solution with no 100% success guarantee.
 

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Re: Brown boxes.
Reply #102 on: February 07, 2020, 06:53:30 pm
Quote from: Nightmare on February 07, 2020, 05:58:54 pm
You better delete the post before Nyx sees that. :p
Behold...
Quote from: DefCynodont119 on February 07, 2020, 05:45:33 pm
I'd just open it up in paint.net and recolor, then darken/lighten the reflect map until it looks right. (with PCS2 open in another tap so I can compare changes in real time) It's worked for me before.
No.

You don't want to do it.

You really don't want to do this.

And I warned you.

The way to go is to open Gimp an unassemble the -reflect into separate RGBA channels. RGB is your specularity, while alpha channel is your gloss. From this point you can assemble specularity itself by assembling only RGB channels... Then go make your changes to both spec and gloss. For more detail, use this.
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Re: Brown boxes.
Reply #103 on: February 07, 2020, 10:24:19 pm
Quote from: Colonol Dekker on February 07, 2020, 05:07:08 pm
Is there no way a classically (pre 2012mvp format) trained modder can editify the cargo container texture into a template style format?



It's "Drone2Cargo3.dds" - not a PBR map yet. There are a few things to watch out for because of the geometery of the .pof.
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Re: Brown boxes.
Reply #104 on: February 08, 2020, 12:46:12 pm
Quote from: 0rph3u5 on February 07, 2020, 10:24:19 pm
Quote from: Colonol Dekker on February 07, 2020, 05:07:08 pm
Is there no way a classically (pre 2012mvp format) trained modder can editify the cargo container texture into a template style format?



It's "Drone2Cargo3.dds" - not a PBR map yet. There are a few things to watch out for because of the geometery of the .pof.

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Re: Brown boxes.
Reply #105 on: February 08, 2020, 02:39:59 pm
Ummm, that's the old/current TAC1, I thought we were discussing the unreleased one by Nyctaeus. .  :wtf:
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Re: Brown boxes.
Reply #106 on: February 08, 2020, 03:36:25 pm
Quote from: DefCynodont119 on February 08, 2020, 02:39:59 pm
the unreleased one by Nyctaeus. .  :wtf:

1) I didn't know there was one.

2) The neco-post is so abigiously worded as to not make that clear.

3) Going back to a version of the asset that is more usable to me as a modder is to me preferable to having the new shiney things (*inset rant about the graphics technology race is a stand-in for a specific kind of toxic behavior commonly associated with cis-males*)

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Re: Brown boxes.
Reply #107 on: February 08, 2020, 06:55:28 pm
Well... Old TAC1 is not that bad for it's age. And it will fit to NuChronos.
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Re: Brown boxes.
Reply #108 on: February 08, 2020, 07:16:20 pm
Quote from: Nyctaeus on February 08, 2020, 06:55:28 pm
Well... Old TAC1 is not that bad for it's age. And it will fit to NuChronos.

Uhm, if it didn't you wouldn't be doing a MediaVPs thing - as there is mandate for the MVP stuff to fill all functions of the retail assets they are supposed upgrades for.

Were you going for an applause line here? /playfully mean
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Re: Brown boxes.
Reply #109 on: February 08, 2020, 07:24:30 pm
Quote from: 0rph3u5 on February 08, 2020, 07:16:20 pm
Quote from: Nyctaeus on February 08, 2020, 06:55:28 pm
Well... Old TAC1 is not that bad for it's age. And it will fit to NuChronos.

Uhm, if it didn't you wouldn't be doing a MediaVPs thing - as there is mandate for the MVP stuff to fill all functions of the retail assets they are supposed upgrades for.

Were you going for an applause line here? /playfully mean

I think Nyx meant it would fit aesthetically.  :p

But yeah, the current/old TAC1 is good enough to still get away with using, and since the re-textures pack is for the current/old TAC1, I suppose if you really wanted to use these you could just have the current/old TAC1 model in your mod.

(I'm honestly surprised the Chronos and TAC1 are getting new models, they look fine as they are)
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Re: Brown boxes.
Reply #110 on: February 08, 2020, 07:28:30 pm
Nah it rather means that the cargo fits physically into it. Most freighters would react with much hurt if they were supposed to take bigger things that they can handle.
  

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Re: Brown boxes.
Reply #111 on: February 08, 2020, 09:06:39 pm
I mean it will fit geometrically, because new TAC1 share all scaling with current rework and retail model. Old variants of TAC1 will fit to NuChronos on the same principle.

I work on FSU stuff mostly on behalf of Inferno. EA use recolored variant of Chronos with three turrets as EAFr Belus replacement. Also it was requested by Mjn, as Chronos appears frequently in BtA.

In the end I always try to pick whatever is most used by multiple projects [if possible] for mutual benefit or if there is already existing mesh that requires completion. Inferno has priority, but Zephyrus or Fenris does not appear in Inf so it's not always the case.
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