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Title: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: joelever on March 13, 2012, 11:53:55 pm
I'm posting this model after making some changes to it that were suggested by other members . I'm new to modeling so there maybe some problem I don't know about but it seems to work for me.

Named after Arthur C. Clarke's book: The Hammer of God

Download link: http://www.mediafire.com/?2ndz95fjmeo3mdd (http://www.mediafire.com/?2ndz95fjmeo3mdd)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7209/6835050442_8c801efe11_b.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7051/6835050776_e5205d1a33_b.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7192/6981178457_db5d744c66_b.jpg)

Title: Re: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: TwentyPercentCooler on March 14, 2012, 06:50:22 am
Looks very nice! I like the practicality. Thick, sloped armor plating makes the hull look durable, and the turrets are excellently done. Also...Phalanx CIWS, IN SPACE.

One little complaint: compared to the rest of the model, the bridge area looks terribly fragile for a military ship. It's a pretty easy target. Maybe see what it looks like if you were to place the bridge window on the front of the command deck, right in-between the two rear CIWS-looking turrets. It also might make the profile a little more streamlined. From an aesthetic standpoint, it just looks a little awkward to me, BUT, it's not a big thing. Is there a hangar bay in the front?
Title: Re: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: TacOne on March 14, 2012, 11:58:12 am
Nice design. Looks like a heavily-armoured corvette/destroyer (which I guess was the point).
The Phalanx and RAM turrets look a little out of place (on one hand they look anachronistic, but on the other hey why change what works).

I like the scorched hull with freshly painted over decals a lot, but the weird texture clipping around the nameplate is a bit jarring.

Overall it looks really cool.
Title: Re: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: General Battuta on March 14, 2012, 12:31:02 pm
I love your turret designs, but I worry about the arrangement. The ship seems to have big blind spots.

Your art style is great, really fresh.
Title: Re: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: crizza on March 14, 2012, 01:45:21 pm
 :eek2:
Sweet mother of...
I like this ship.
Can we get more pictures, maybe taken from below?
'Cause it looks like the defense turrets are all locate on its upper hull.
Title: Re: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: joelever on March 14, 2012, 03:09:32 pm
There is a hanger bay in the front of the ship.
I think the missiles help out with blind spots and there are smaller turrets that are hard to see form the pic's that help with bomber or fighter attacks.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7047/6836692954_2dc2f47220_b.jpg)
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Title: Re: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: Hellstryker on March 14, 2012, 04:15:12 pm
Holy env/shine maps! You might want to tone those down a bit.  :eek2:
Title: Re: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: Sarafan on March 14, 2012, 08:45:08 pm
Very cool! :yes:
Title: Re: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: NeonShivan on March 14, 2012, 09:05:53 pm
I love the ship's design, lack of blind spots, and its giant cannons that basically just shouts "Don't mess with me." You should make fighter versions that would go with this ship ;)
Title: Re: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: Droid803 on March 14, 2012, 10:03:10 pm
What bothers me most is a 3600-ish poly main mesh, and then 1.3-1.5k poly turrets totalling to, 50k polies.

This results in ship having a severe case of detail disproportion. Certain things look really out of place. Greeble the flat parts of the hull, not the sides of the damn missile turrets which nobody can/will see anyway. No excuses when you have those huge flat areas with the turrets on them without so much as a box for a turret platform, just turrets sitting in the hull; a hangar which is just a giant cavity with no bay doors, nothing... and then your missile turrets have these little nobs and handles modelled in for its panels (just WHY?)

I would much rather that at least 25k of those 50k polies go into the main hull. When a turret not 1/100th the size of the ship has half as many polies...something is wrong.

My other major qualm with it is the fact that every single type of turret uses its own texture...which I told you about and hasn't been fixed and just isn't a good thing, eating up 5 more textures than there needs to be. Put them all on one bigger "turrets" texture, it will improve performance.

All in all, a nice design and concept, but pretty poorly executed in terms of optimization. No worries, the design is the hard part, optimizing is just realizing what you can and cannot get away with. As it stands, it has a lot of "wasted effort" detailing and providing texture space to things that...are barely visible in every single screenshot of it you posted.
Title: Re: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: Molaris on March 28, 2012, 06:37:17 pm
is this a specific mod? or just stuff you're goofing with? I see other stuff going on in the background that also has me interested
Title: Re: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: joelever on April 02, 2012, 11:56:39 am
It's not a specific mod it was just something I made to learn to use blender with Freespace2 the pic's were just tests for the ship. Other models hopefully will get better as I go.
Title: Re: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: joelever on April 20, 2012, 01:20:32 pm
Here's some work in progress.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7214/7096818045_68dcd31e46_b.jpg)
Title: Re: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: Thaeris on April 20, 2012, 01:57:37 pm
I like it!
Title: Re: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: joelever on May 04, 2012, 11:52:21 pm
I need some help with a model

This model seems to be off set in the POF but in blender it looks OK if anyone can tell me what the problem is with it I would be grateful for your help.

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5339/7143961693_c69f2b8e7a_b.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7267/7143961747_b8e541c6c5_b.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7262/7143982037_067b198946_b.jpg)

Thank you.
Title: Re: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on May 05, 2012, 01:19:03 am
Not sure about 2.5+, but here's how I would do it in 2.49:

First, make sure your ship is properly centered - there should be a ' Center New' button somewhere (in object mode), do this on detail0. Then, center all other LODs and the shield mesh to the same point (Shift-S -> Cursor To Selection to move the cursor to the detail0 center, then the 'Center cursor' button for all other lods and shield). Then move everything back to (0,0,0) coordinates; this is important, as PCS2 will assume your ship is centered there. Pressing 'N' should pop up a box where you can see any transformations applied to an object: the centerpoint location, and any scaling or rotation (if any scaling is not 1, or any rotation not 0, press Ctrl-A to apply it to the mesh itself).

If that doesn't do it, you may want to post the .blend file here, so we can take a closer look at it.
Title: Re: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: Droid803 on May 05, 2012, 02:02:52 am
...why bother just translate it in PCS2 lol
Unless you're slightly obsessive about actual centering like me then in which case you probably want to do Blender's version of resetting the X-Form (which is what it is called in max...)
Title: Re: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: joelever on May 05, 2012, 11:06:43 pm
I found out how to translate the rotation in PCS2 thanks for the tip Droid. I'm going to try FreeSpaceFreak's tip just to know how to center everything in blender thanks for the help guys.
Title: Re: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: BlasterNT on May 06, 2012, 01:13:59 am
iirc, if you don't center properly in the 3d program before export, your collision data gets messed up.  And things like glowpoints and firepoints are offset.  Though that may just be in max. 
Title: Re: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: joelever on May 06, 2012, 07:02:37 am
I fixed the centering problem with the help I got so far it works in game properly. I still have more work to do on the model but now I know I'm on the right track.
Title: Re: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: joelever on May 21, 2012, 07:24:10 pm
something I'm working on.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7075/7245593110_ab06e14b89_b.jpg)
Title: Re: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: Thaeris on May 21, 2012, 07:41:16 pm
That's a corvette, it seems? Regardless of what it actually is, it's great!

:D
Title: Re: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: joelever on May 21, 2012, 08:07:23 pm
It is a corvette I still have a lot of work to do on it tho.
Title: Re: New Ship Hammer of God
Post by: TacOne on May 22, 2012, 12:57:20 pm
That looks really cool.