Author Topic: yay or nay (Read 23649 times)

terren · **Reply #120 on:** September 14, 2003, 03:35:16 am

Those things are amazing!
The new particals are AWSOME, perfict for showing a drive that goes by pure power, like on a bomber or a heavy cap ship. and the outher things they can be used for, wow.

and I like the new stabbing drive effect it's so shiny...
good for anything fast and manuverable. or top of the line new drives... I have to go now, drooling to much.

Tell me your puting everything you have into geting this into the next release? pleese!

Fineus · **Reply #121 on:** September 14, 2003, 06:53:02 am

Hate to be a kill joy at this stage - but I just noticed something with Bobs engine trails (the standard type, not particle):

When a capital ship is at a stop - the trail keeps on going as if the ship was moving. It's kinda off putting, especially on larger ships like the Hecate, to see huge trails getting chucked out of the back of the ship while it's not moving. If you could make them revert to "all stop" engine trails (for want of a better word) while the ship isn't moving, that'd be great

Flipside · **Reply #122 on:** September 14, 2003, 07:09:54 am

Yes, the '100 mph' look can be a bit odd.

Maybe just turn the 'beam' effect off when speed is below 15 or something, that would look good for those famous 'handbrake turns' that fighters love doing

Also, I've noticed that when you are on the normal of the model's thrusters, they turn off, it's only for a frame or so and is a very minor irritation, but I just thought I'd let you know

Flipside

_argv[-1] · **Reply #123 on:** September 20, 2003, 03:26:00 am

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Originally posted by StratComm
If argv[-1]'s engine glows scaling gets put in with this though

Engine glow scaling is already there. I just changed it to turn off engine glows entirely if there's no thrust. There seems to be some contention about whether or not this is a good thing, unfortunately...

Fr3z3r · **Reply #124 on:** September 25, 2003, 01:06:10 am

Yeah, bad idea for capships. But for anything exceeding 50 m/s in speed...

...kicks major arse!

When will it be included in the official SCP release? Whenwhenwhen?

Kazan · **Reply #125 on:** September 25, 2003, 02:13:11 am

That particle effect (especially on the myrmidon) is ugly as sin - but the origional stuff [just the trails like in StratComm's post] are super

and length can be speed or sheer power [higher the power the longer it's going to be, and the higher the speed the longer it's going to be]

btw StratComm what mod is that it looks spiffy

_argv[-1] · **Reply #126 on:** September 25, 2003, 04:24:26 am

Hey, I like the particle thrusters on the Myrmidon. They're pretty.

Since it's a particle effect, it apparently isn't affected by borken normals on the engine glows in the models (like the other kind). Also, I imagine the thruster trails would curve as the ship turns (it looks like that's what's happening in the second screenshot).

As an aside, in FreeSpace 1, on the command briefing for 'Playing Judas', there is an animation that shows the Dragon in all its detail. Among other things, the engines are labelled 'particle thrusters'...

Lynx · **Reply #127 on:** September 25, 2003, 06:18:28 am

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Originally posted by Flipside

Flipside

Yay! Finally we have particle engines.

I have a question: The trail of the Satis freighter is not particle, or is it? IMO it looks better right now than the engines of the Myrmidon, which looks more like it's trailing smoke from damage or something. I'm sure it's possible to create a continous thruster trail without such random 'cloud' thingies coming out, isn't it? Would it possible with the system to create a XWA like thruster flame?

Fineus · **Reply #128 on:** September 25, 2003, 06:30:33 am

The Satis don't have any particle trails on them - they use Bobs revamped engine trail thingy.

Flaser · **Reply #129 on:** September 25, 2003, 07:25:00 am

I still think the formula that regulates the particle's movement is far from perfect.

By giving them a higher initial velocity as well as a shorter fade-out time coupled with a colorscale based on time we could achieve better effects.

Even the position compared to the engine's center should be taken into account, so particles coming farther away from the center would start with a positive time added to them, simulating their shorter lifespan and difference in color.

IceFire · **Reply #130 on:** September 25, 2003, 08:34:09 am

Wow, that is looking super!

mnftg64 · **Reply #131 on:** September 25, 2003, 11:42:07 am

Uhh, where should I put the files and is the FS2 Open e a replacement for 3.5.5 or does it have all of 3.5.5s features plus the new engine stuff?

StratComm · **Reply #132 on:** September 25, 2003, 03:40:32 pm

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Originally posted by Kazan
That particle effect (especially on the myrmidon) is ugly as sin - but the origional stuff [just the trails like in StratComm's post] are super

and length can be speed or sheer power [higher the power the longer it's going to be, and the higher the speed the longer it's going to be]

btw StratComm what mod is that it looks spiffy

Them's me ship mods

They can be found in my sig and are floating around the community and some can be found in campaigns here and there. The Raynor was a community project but since I finished it I host it for download.

As for the length of the trails, it looks like right now they are being drawn on a polygon that always faces the player. If this is so, could we not just have the length of the polygon shorten as engine power decreases? Tie it's length to the percent of total thrust? I wouldn't be against the capship engines if they weren't [quite] so long, and if there were no trails when they were sitting still. Really the trails while not moving are the big problem, but making them a bit shorter would help too IMHO.

DeepSpace9er · **Reply #133 on:** September 25, 2003, 10:45:03 pm

Im getting an error message when i try to play the game after updating FS_Open. Something to the effect of:
'The Paging file is too small for this operation to complete.'

Is this a memory problem or is the build a little screwry? Btw, im running on 384Mb Ram with a Radeon 9000.

Tolwyn · **Reply #134 on:** September 26, 2003, 10:19:09 am

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Originally posted by Kazan
That particle effect (especially on the myrmidon) is ugly as sin - but the origional stuff [just the trails like in StratComm's post] are super

and length can be speed or sheer power [higher the power the longer it's going to be, and the higher the speed the longer it's going to be]

btw StratComm what mod is that it looks spiffy

I have to agree... I think that the original trails effect (Freelancer-like style) looked better...

Bobboau · **Reply #135 on:** September 26, 2003, 10:22:40 am

well paticles are disabled by defalt, becase I don't like them ether, but if someone wants them they have the option

Flaser · **Reply #136 on:** September 26, 2003, 12:40:14 pm

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Originally posted by Bobboau
well paticles are disabled by defalt, becase I don't like them ether, but if someone wants them they have the option

The way they work now, does not apply really to an actual jet engine (or rocket engine). As I said a new algorythm has to be written if we want particle engines.

BTW this stuff would still come handy for a number of effects and especially the smoke trail, that missles leave.

Setekh · **Reply #137 on:** September 26, 2003, 12:53:04 pm

Wow, particle engines... I've waited years to see those.

Drew · **Reply #138 on:** September 27, 2003, 11:15:09 pm

uhhh how do you use these anyway?

terren · **Reply #139 on:** September 30, 2003, 01:53:10 am

I wish I knew

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