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Offline esarai

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Aaaand... you know you dun' goof'd when even Forbes is calling your ****.

As for new gamemodes, why not a 'Battle of Tukayyid' mode?  IS vs. Clans on a different planetary sections with different objectives each run?  Like the IS has to stage a convoy ambush, or the Clans need to crush the defenders holding a fortress?  Then sum the results so we can know how the fight for the Sphere is going.

Sheesh... the absolute ineptitude.
« Last Edit: December 15, 2013, 12:10:27 pm by esarai »
<Nuclear>   truth: the good samaritan actually checked for proof of citizenship and health insurance
<Axem>   did anyone catch jesus' birth certificate?
<Nuclear>   and jesus didnt actually give the 5000 their fish...he gave it to the romans and let it trickle down
<Axem>and he was totally pro tax breaks
<Axem>he threw out all those tax collectors at the temple
<Nuclear>   he drove a V8 camel too
<Nuclear>   with a sword rack for his fully-automatic daggers

Esarai: hey gaiz, what's a good improvised, final attack for a ship fighting to buy others time to escape to use?
RangerKarl|AtWork: stick your penis in the warp core
DarthGeek: no don't do that
amki: don't EVER do that

 

Offline The E

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Yeah, MWO has been a string of "How could they **** this up?" disasters since they went public.
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Offline Spoon

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DOUBLE EDIT:  Holy ****.  I just checked the Clan Collection feedback thread once more.  196 pages.  196 PAGES in two days.  'A small, vocal minority' indeed.  I don't think a unicorn will be enough.  They're going to need the miracle power of cyberjesus if they want to survive this.
I read through a bunch of posts and there were even more pages according to some. But the mods went on a mad delete spree.

Aside from that, yes to everything you've said. The sheer incompetence is just mind boggling.

Yeah, MWO has been a string of "How could they **** this up?" disasters since they went public.
yes
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[02:42] <@Axem> spoon somethings wrong
[02:42] <@Axem> critically wrong
[02:42] <@Axem> im happy with these missions now
[02:44] <@Axem> well
[02:44] <@Axem> with 2 of them

 

Offline Dragon

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Quote from: Friggin' FORBES
I can’t imagine MWO will ever become a major force in the competitive shooter scene if it continues making decisions like this, and anyone setting a $500 price point for a golden mech might be better off in the magic bean-peddling business.
That sums it up pretty well. When can we expect magic bean (cures all diseases, predicts future and looks snazzy!) to appear in MWO store?

 

Offline Aesaar

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Only thing I want out of MWO now is models and concept art.  At least those could be used elsewhere.  As a game, it's a pathetic failure.

 

Offline esarai

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Fortunately, we have the technology to extract those.  Part of me thinks it'd be better to spring all their assets and just build a community-developed version.  Their handling of it is just depressing.

If we don't want to cause maximum copyright infringement, break out Unity or something and build a thinly-veiled imitation that's just different enough to not break copyright and still have everything the community has been asking for instead of 'SALES EVERY WEEKEND, GET YOUR DIGITAL EYESEX WHILE IT'S HOT.'

Ghost Heat?  Gone.  Weapon Balance?  Start your own server and tweak tweak tweak.  Maps too small?  Huzzah for randomly generated maps!  Economy?  Why not have an actual economy with players joining a merc corps at the very start?  Why not a real goddamn market, with trades between players?  Why only 4 game modes?  This is BattleTech for gods' sake.  There's supposed to be assassination, espionage, heroic last stands, daring raids, sieges, orbital bombardment and Trials.  There's so much they could have done and have chosen not to.
« Last Edit: December 15, 2013, 01:56:46 pm by esarai »
<Nuclear>   truth: the good samaritan actually checked for proof of citizenship and health insurance
<Axem>   did anyone catch jesus' birth certificate?
<Nuclear>   and jesus didnt actually give the 5000 their fish...he gave it to the romans and let it trickle down
<Axem>and he was totally pro tax breaks
<Axem>he threw out all those tax collectors at the temple
<Nuclear>   he drove a V8 camel too
<Nuclear>   with a sword rack for his fully-automatic daggers

Esarai: hey gaiz, what's a good improvised, final attack for a ship fighting to buy others time to escape to use?
RangerKarl|AtWork: stick your penis in the warp core
DarthGeek: no don't do that
amki: don't EVER do that

 

Offline Aesaar

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I'm wondering how difficult it would be to port MWO models into MW4...

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

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How about Living Legends ? At least CryEngine ain't afraid of many polygons.
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Offline esarai

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I would love to do something with LL, but unfortunately every time I download it I get told the files are corrupted.  This happens from all sources.  I am unsure of the cause.
<Nuclear>   truth: the good samaritan actually checked for proof of citizenship and health insurance
<Axem>   did anyone catch jesus' birth certificate?
<Nuclear>   and jesus didnt actually give the 5000 their fish...he gave it to the romans and let it trickle down
<Axem>and he was totally pro tax breaks
<Axem>he threw out all those tax collectors at the temple
<Nuclear>   he drove a V8 camel too
<Nuclear>   with a sword rack for his fully-automatic daggers

Esarai: hey gaiz, what's a good improvised, final attack for a ship fighting to buy others time to escape to use?
RangerKarl|AtWork: stick your penis in the warp core
DarthGeek: no don't do that
amki: don't EVER do that

 

Offline Dragon

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Fortunately, we have the technology to extract those.  Part of me thinks it'd be better to spring all their assets and just build a community-developed version.  Their handling of it is just depressing.

If we don't want to cause maximum copyright infringement, break out Unity or something and build a thinly-veiled imitation that's just different enough to not break copyright and still have everything the community has been asking for instead of 'SALES EVERY WEEKEND, GET YOUR DIGITAL EYESEX WHILE IT'S HOT.'

Ghost Heat?  Gone.  Weapon Balance?  Start your own server and tweak tweak tweak.  Maps too small?  Huzzah for randomly generated maps!  Economy?  Why not have an actual economy with players joining a merc corps at the very start?  Why not a real goddamn market, with trades between players?  Why only 4 game modes?  This is BattleTech for gods' sake.  There's supposed to be assassination, espionage, heroic last stands, daring raids, sieges, orbital bombardment and Trials.  There's so much they could have done and have chosen not to.
And first of all (for me, at least), we could have a single player campaign complete with epic story, Clan trials and an opportunity to try out almost every mech and develop your playstyle against AI before jumping into multi (or just endlessly build mechs in Mechlab and try them out in skirmish, like I do in MW4). And perhaps an MW4:Mercs-style tutorial, both immersive and better for teaching game mechanics than a bunch of videos. Who said that it has to be multiplayer-only game? It's a bit of a pet peeve of mine. Great assets and nice gameplay wasted on a multiplayer game, usually with no provisions for an user-made campaign.

I'd certainly volunteer as a writer for the project, if nothing else. The rest depends on how complicated mission making would be. I could definitely help with it if it was as easy as FREDing or MW4 editor.

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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Frankly the rage over the 500-dollar 'Mechs amuses me endlessly. If they want to exploit the LOOK AT MY PENIS segment of the market, more power to them.

The other packs are pretty reasonable stuff, all told. They've stated they're not going for the superior tech from the tabletop before so we'll see how it balances.
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Offline Scotty

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I don't know if "pretty reasonable" really applies to packages that cost double what a brand new triple-A title.

Or, perhaps the fact that it's pretty reasonable by MWO standards should tell us something.

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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I don't know if "pretty reasonable" really applies to packages that cost double what a brand new triple-A title.

Or, perhaps the fact that it's pretty reasonable by MWO standards should tell us something.

A thirty or sixty dollar pack as it is is actually a pretty good deal, if you work out the cost vs. what you're getting. The others are, again, for the Look At My Penis market.
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Offline Scotty

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Meanwhile, only and exactly two packages cost that little, and both of them are of generally specialist or sub-par designs.  In order to get anything generally considered "decent" you have to fork over $90.

I also just noticed that the Summoner has eleven missile ports.  This bugs me inordinately much.

 

Offline LordMelvin

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I also just noticed that the Summoner has eleven missile ports.  This bugs me inordinately much.

But... but these go to eleven.
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Offline esarai

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You're right... 10 bucks a mech is a steal when it comes to MWO's normal pricing scheme.  But what I think pisses everyone off is that the Mechs with the highest demand are hidden behind 8 others.  "Oh, you want only the Timber Wolf? Lol too ****in' bad, gotta buy things you don't need if you want it."

I also just noticed that the Summoner has eleven missile ports.  This bugs me inordinately much.

But... but these go to eleven.

Wrong.  These go to fifteen.
<Nuclear>   truth: the good samaritan actually checked for proof of citizenship and health insurance
<Axem>   did anyone catch jesus' birth certificate?
<Nuclear>   and jesus didnt actually give the 5000 their fish...he gave it to the romans and let it trickle down
<Axem>and he was totally pro tax breaks
<Axem>he threw out all those tax collectors at the temple
<Nuclear>   he drove a V8 camel too
<Nuclear>   with a sword rack for his fully-automatic daggers

Esarai: hey gaiz, what's a good improvised, final attack for a ship fighting to buy others time to escape to use?
RangerKarl|AtWork: stick your penis in the warp core
DarthGeek: no don't do that
amki: don't EVER do that

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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In order to get anything generally considered "decent" you have to fork over $90.

For nine 'Mechs, plus  thirty days premium. The other packs may be really expensive but they actually give you a lot of stuff. I agree it's not optimal this way, but you are actually getting your money's worth out of this.
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Offline SypheDMar

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Seems like it's about time to quit playing the game, eh?

It's such a shame. I long for the MechWarrior Reboot. If only someone funded it back then. Hell, in hindsight, I'm sure a Kickstarter would've been successful.

 

Offline StarSlayer

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While NGMT raises some points, it isn't as well priced as the Phoenix Package.  The top tier Overlord Package for Phoenix was what? $80 for 12 mechs/bays, 90 days of Prime and some cockpit crap?  The closest in this Clan package is the "Daishi" which is 12 mechs/bays and 60 days of Prime for $120.  Heck the lowest tier Clan package, 3 Kit Foxes, is the same as the Saber package for six 55 tonners.  While I'm not exactly driven to rage over this I certainly am not going to invest any money in it unless they decided to price it competitively and start to show some progress on other fronts.  To be honest they can price it whatever they want, but if the market isn't buying then they will need to reevaluate.
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I think what irks most people is the fact that they've started a preorder for Clan-Mechs although they still don't know how to balance them out (so far it seems to boil down to simply nerfing clan tech, instead of giving IS an advantage in tonnage or numbers) and they still haven't delivered on many additions/upgrades like UI 2.0, Community Warfare, DX11 ect. which had been already announced months ago.