[Scotty]

But you only need one who held to make it somewhat plausible.  If mimicking something that happened in real life is breaking the suspension of disbelief, that's your own problem.

No, it's your problem too. There are many things that happen in real life that cannot be plausibly presented in fiction because they're seen as narrative fiat.

This critiquing a game series that has a history of making the player do the exact same thing as the above over and over again, albeit with completely useless sidekicks?

And if something has happened in real life, and is then mimicked in fiction, I do not see it as narrative fiat because SOMEONE ACTUALLY DID THAT.

EDIT:  ALL CAPS used for emphasis, not indication of irritation.

[General Battuta]

It was completely unbelievable. The fact that it has happened in history is immaterial to its narrative success; as any writer knows, truth is often stranger than fiction, and the reader will often not believe a historical account when presented as fiction.

There were dozens of other soldiers available, and once your buddies were all killed, you would have been pulled out immediately. No C/O would give nonchalant orders to advance in conditions like this.

[Scotty]

Truth also opens the door for fiction.  Anyway, this is obviously just an argument of opinion.

There were dozens of other soldiers available, and once your buddies were all killed, you would have been pulled out immediately. No C/O would give nonchalant orders to advance in conditions like this.

You left out this part.  This changes circumstances.

EDIT:  Although, have you ever read Path of the Fury, by David Weber?  The prequel story has something quite similar to this, but a lot more interesting.

[General Battuta]

Well, er, we were discussing the game. If you haven't played it that's your problem. 

[Scotty]

I meant our opinion on whether the specific mission broke the suspension of disbelief.  We disagreed on that, from what I gathered, which was nothing but our own opinions.

And having not played the game is definately my problem, but I don't have that kind of money lying around (or anywhere else, for that matter).

[General Battuta]

I played a friend's copy. It's not worth $60.

[Pred the Penguin]

There in lies the problem...
None of my friends will buy it.

Ah well.

[TrashMan]

Trashman, how many times have you been in combat while in severe pain and under a helluva lot of pressure? Even learned guys make mistakes in those environments.

Commandos that make mistakes are dead commandos.

Note how our hero made a super-perfect deadly knife throw, even when badly wounded.
That general was simply an idiot - talking and walking around with a gun when he could have just killed you.

[Colonol Dekker]

Classic bond villain error. But spoiler tags for the non owners/players please.

[Pred the Penguin]

Trashman, how many times have you been in combat while in severe pain and under a helluva lot of pressure? Even learned guys make mistakes in those environments.

Commandos that make mistakes are dead commandos.

Note how our hero made a super-perfect deadly knife throw, even when badly wounded.
That general was simply an idiot - talking and walking around with a gun when he could have just killed you.

I guess there's that tremendous urge to drone on in front of your apparently helpless victims.

[Dilmah G]

Trashman, how many times have you been in combat while in severe pain and under a helluva lot of pressure? Even learned guys make mistakes in those environments.

Commandos that make mistakes are dead commandos.

Very Good point.

Note how our hero made a super-perfect deadly knife throw, even when badly wounded.
That general was simply an idiot - talking and walking around with a gun when he could have just killed you.

Also very true. As for the knife throw, do you think he intentionally wanted to strike him in the eye socket? I'm quite sure most people would be about to pass out, if they hadn't already, they would've lobbed the knife free of their wrist in the general direction. Soap got lucky.

[Snail]

I agree with Battuta 100% here. The storyline made absolutely no sense, but there were a few nice moments.

I think what game developers should do is just deliver what they are expected to deliver. Another Ultranationalist plot with maybe a few interesting twists, but not do something completely different to what the player expects (which is exactly what they did in MW2).

[Dilmah G]

Mmm, I for one loved the twists, I just thrive off that spur of the moment stuff that gets the adrenaline pumping. Comprehensible storyline or not.

[Mongoose]

I don't know how many people have seen this yet, but speaking of deadly knife throws in this game...

[Polpolion]

I played that God-forsaken airport level. That's easily the worst thing I've ever seen put into a video game.  Riot shields do not stop 7.62 NATO.

Other than a totally loony and poorly told story, it's a great game. The missions are varied and interesting, it's just that you never have any idea of what your doing or why you're doing it. And I will admit, the story had some great moments, the airport level for example. Granted, those moments were generally diluted due to the player not knowing what's going on.

[Snail]

I don't know how many people have seen this yet, but speaking of deadly knife throws in this game...

Does anyone actually use these on a regular basis? Or is it like the "Eavesdrop" perk from MW1?

[Scotty]

People use them, and frequently, if friends who play are any meter.  Works a lot better in the hardcore games because knives don't have a friendly fire area effect.

[Colonol Dekker]

I'm a fan of Marathon.. Continuous sprint Can't go wrong.

[Scotty]

I'm looking forward to finally having a damn silencer for my sniper rifle.

Bling, silencer and thermal sight (or FMJ rounds) for a sniper rifle
Cold Blooded
Ninja.

With smoke grenades, and probably a USP .45 w/silencer.

I wanna be a STEALTHY sniper, dammit.

[Colonol Dekker]

Thermal sight is thermal ****e. I prefer normal scope. and C4/semtex.....